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[Gamma Emerald]

You're not the first one to say it, I don't understand why people think that.

For me, its that Jake seems invested in HEM's actions for rather questionable reasons. Like, he wanted HEM to stop doing something? That kinda vibes like scum who wanted to rein in their buddy.

[NotAHecticAlt]

Um..mafia have daytalk

[Gamma Emerald]

you responded like scum

which is?

Which is why I'm voting you. If you flip scum, then I'll have to redo most of my reads. If you flip town, I will be more certain about my reads.

I am still willing to hear you out about why you're town.

What reads are these, and why does HEM's flip affect them that way?

If you were voting someone to get a better read on them, and instead of giving you something to work with, they ignored and deflected your honest investigation for something stronger to base your reads off of, then would you think they are scummy?

Your "tell me why you're town" is bogus. First, there's no real reliable way to prove that. Second, I don't want to be locked into proving something I can't. That's not productive use of my time. What value would you have about why I think I'm town? Third, if you have a townlean on someone, you don't put them at E-1 with your scumread just to "get a better read at them". You already have a read on them — You townlean them. I don't see you doing that to Anya during the beginning or Sigmund or anyone whose slots are still unknown. You want my content, you can have them throughout the day — not in these flamboyant displays of "scumhunting".

Plus, if you really wanted my content, you could have answered my questions. We could have had a discussion on the game, instead of saying "I won't answer your questions because I'm not at E-1."

Bogus. I also noticed that you tried your best to give an actual answer on this, when you could have went right to this answer from the start. You were buying time because you didn't have an actual answer.

While I also think the vote on you from Jake has bad logical consistency, I also have to say you didn't really seem like you were in the mood to do much more than react to votes on you. While I can kinda see why you saw your posting as content, I also see how it feels like it isn't. Your contributions at this point feel like they mostly revolve around you responding to the accusations leveled against you. That isn't exactly scum-indicative but it does interest me when before that became the situation, I was quite impressed by your posting.

I also noticed that you tried your best to give an actual answer on this

EBWOP: I also noticed that you tried your best to

delay giving

an actual answer on this

this feels ironic

[Gamma Emerald]

Um..mafia have daytalk

I...don't see where that's specified in the ruleset?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Dwlee99, I can only vote for one.

I can buy T3 and Johnny's reasons for voting. I don't buy Rae's reason for voting. I have no idea what's going on inside Messy Anne's head. @Messy Anne, why did you vote me?

Why Johnny?

[NotAHecticAlt]

Mafia have daytalk.
Mafia are multitasking.
The alignment distribution is 9:3.

SAMPLE ROLE PM

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You have no abilities.

You win when there are no mafia aligned players alive and there is at least one town aligned player still alive. Please confirm by summarizing your role to the moderator.

Game thread can be found here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you trying to characterize me as only having a read on both you and Sigmund, and dismissing the other real comments I made on other players?

As I see it, your reads up to this point are solely on those who've voted you

[Gamma Emerald]

To be honewt I was going make up some read so i could reread later but I honestly don't have any reads on skim yet - based on this page I would sort Dwlee as town though.

yeah dwlee is the most obvtown player up to this point, I'd say

[Gamma Emerald]

So then what makes you think monkey is town?

His posting and attempt to sort his own wagon.

I myself don't view his sorting of his wagon as anything stellar, by the fact that once he started doing it, it seemed to be the entirety of his sorting efforts. It seemed like a rather OMGUS-y way of playing, which while I won't call myself above that way of play, I don't just stick to my wagon, I analyze how EVERYONE interacts with my slot.

[Gamma Emerald]

Just got back from the laundromat.

Hey Naha! How are you? Could you read the entire game and get back to me with your thoughts?

I'll take "Useless Questions" for 1000, Alex.

[Gamma Emerald]

Ydrasse is an even bigger pagetop thief than Mena

yeah that was just unnecessary

[Gamma Emerald]

Rae and Johnny are below null. Not quite scummy but there were some posts that said "yeah this could be town actually".

what does this mean
from what you said, they sound like townleans rather than scumleans

[Gamma Emerald]

If you based your entire read of someone off of "Well they think like me, so they're +town", would you want to take the first reasonable chance to get more from them?

Interesting idea, perhaps I should have practiced this myself with HEM from the start

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm here to chat when you're finished, gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll work on that but perhaps you could walk me through your HEM read, for now?

[Sigmund]

VOTE: jake

you guys post too much

[Jake The Wolfie]

You.. didn't read that I was the town's only doctor, did you Sigmund?

[shiki]

VOTE: jake

you guys post too much

not hectic and sigmund both super suspicious for this

uh vote count at top of last page has jake self voting but it's actually not hectic

[Jake The Wolfie]

Not like I expected to save anyone, I can't even save myself.

Oh well, add this to the pile of "Jake gets executed D1" games.

[Ydrasse]

DAY ONE

VOTECOUNT 1.10 - FINAL

[7] Jake the Wolfie:

Dwlee99, humaneatingmonkey, JohnnyFarrar, T3, Rae, NotAHecticAlt, Sigmund —

HAMMERED

[2] T3:

Anya, Messy Anne

[3] Not Voting:

Gamma Emerald, shiki, Jake the Wolfie

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-03 22:52:36).

MOD NOTES

• Please let me know if there are any errors, doing this by hand.

• Joined mod ISO

•

[Ydrasse]

JAKE THE WOLFIE WAS...

Spoiler:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You have no abilities.

You win when there are no mafia aligned players alive and there is at least one town aligned player still alive. Please confirm by summarizing your role to the moderator.

Game thread can be found here.

A

VANILLA TOWNIE

.

Night 1 begins now.

You have (expired on 2021-06-03 00:20:25) to submit any night actions.

[Ydrasse]

Day flip in about two hours.

[Ydrasse]

GAMMA EMERALD HAS DIED. HE WAS...

Spoiler:

You are a

Vanilla Townie

.
You have no abilities.

You win when there are no mafia aligned players alive and there is at least one town aligned player still alive. Please confirm by summarizing your role to the moderator.

Game thread can be found here.

A

VANILLA TOWNIE

.

[Ydrasse]

DAY TWO

VOTECOUNT 2.0

[10] Not Voting:

JohnnyFarrar, Sigmund, T3, shiki, Anya, NotAHecticAlt, Dwlee99, humaneatingmonkey, Messy Anne, Rae

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-11 00:01:22).

MOD NOTES

• JohnnyFarrar is V/LA

• Joined mod ISO

[Gamma Emerald]