Open 814: CultD3 CULT WINS

[Korina]

VOTE COUNT 1.3

T3 (3, E-2!):

Major Minor, Marky Mark, InsidiousLemons

InsidiousLemons (1):

Umlaut

Flea The Magician (1):

Enchant

Raya36 (1):

Flea The Magician

Enchant (0):

osuka (0):

Major Minor (0):

Marky Mark (0):

Umlaut (0):

Not Voting (3):

Raya36, osuka, T3

With

9

votes in play, it takes

5

of them to yeet somebody.

(expired on 2021-06-14 09:25:00) remain in the day.

Mod Notes

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Pronoun Key

Korina - They/Them
Maruchan - She/Her
Flea The Magician - Fae/Faer or They/Them
Raya36 - She/Her
Enchant - Please set preferred pronouns in user control panel.
Major Minor - He/Him
Marky Marky - He/Him
T3 - He/Him
Umlaut - He/Him
osuka - He/Him
InsidiousLemons - Any Pronouns

[Marky Mark]

Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.

You could start by answering my post addressed to you!

Am lowkey sus of this slot - posts in the thread to refute criticism but doesn't add anything about the wider game or ask any new questions.

[T3]

T3, i just had a peek at 2061 and skitter replaced out before ever posting. is it possible you meant to reference another game? your play there doesn't seem to match this one at all.

Ah, sorry, 2059.

[T3]

@T3 what made you turn 180 on your vote on Flea in such a short space of time? Feel free to also answer the (related) question I posed earlier ref why "strange" as a choice of description.

The strange was more "i would be surprised if this logic came from town" strange. I then voted. I was then addressed about it, reread, realized it probably isn't that scummy, and unvoted.

[Marky Mark]

The strange was more "i would be surprised if this logic came from town" strange.

I get the sentiment, just seemed an odd way to say scummy if that was the point you were making at the time

[Marky Mark]

Like idk seems off to find it sus enough in the first place to vote but then back down after a mild prodding but then tbf idk if scum would be so blatant about backing down like that

[Marky Mark]

Who's scum rn off the top of your head if not Flea?

[InsidiousLemons]

your response to being questioned on your vote here:

VOTE: Flea
Strange fakesolve tbh

This just feels like a low-effort consensus vote.

VOTE: T3

Why "strange" eg as opposed to scummy?

It created discussion but idk if that was intentional.

Also raya is town.
UNVOTE: Flea
I guess a push like that doesn't make sense from scuflea but we shouldn't dismiss it.

and your response to being questioned on your vote in 2059:

GrandpaMo and Ahri are and were my top scumreads for valid reasons.
Anyways, the way interactions are going the scumteams seem to be
me/Irish
Mo/Ahri
and JV and Fizz are very likely town.
I am unwilling to vote Irish here because Irish isn't scummy enough. If Irish flips scum at some point then yes. I will accept scumreads and accept the fact that my read was wrong. But I have't seen anything convincing enough for me to vote Irish over the bad and scummy votes against Irish.

i don't really see these as at all comparable. perhaps the push on you in that game was for "opportunism" for voting ahri, as it is for voting flea here, but you refused to back down from that vote and explained your reasoning well. i recognize that the gamestate is much less developed here, but this feels like a disingenuous comparison to make. your defense is nothing more than "well i've been called out for opportunism as town before", with no regard for the surrounding circumstances.

[T3]

True.
My defense isn't really just that, my flra read was a read at the time that I had which I now am less sure of.

[InsidiousLemons]

Who's scum rn off the top of your head if not Flea?

^

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.

You could start by answering my post addressed to you!

who are you and which one?

[Major Minor]

Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.

You could start by answering my post addressed to you!

Am lowkey sus of this slot - posts in the thread to refute criticism but doesn't add anything about the wider game or ask any new questions.

Is it low-key if you say it out loud?

[Major Minor]

Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.

You could start by answering my post addressed to you!

who are you and which one?

RVS Breaker: My vote was serious. Discuss.

No it wasn't. At least not beyond the trivial "all votes are to some extent serious" sense of the phrase. If I'm wrong and you have a real reason you're welcome to share it instead of inviting us to play 20 Questions.

They read their Role PM but didn't confirm it until later.

I'm having trouble following, both how you came to this conclusion (I saw it was later verified though), and why that would make them more likely to be scum/cult/whatever?

[osuka]

Lemons can have townpoints for caring about the solve enough to check up on meta. Scum can do this too, but in my experience its a towny thing more often than not.

it's my experience that lemons just generally puts way too much effort into games

[osuka]

Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.

You could start by answering my post addressed to you!

Am lowkey sus of this slot - posts in the thread to refute criticism but doesn't add anything about the wider game or ask any new questions.

this is a dogshit post

he's putting pressure on a slot that didn't answer his question and that is objectively a good thing

[Enchant]

You probably answered already, but how Flea know who didn't refuse PM instantly.

[T3]

Who's scum rn off the top of your head if not Flea?

No clue, I've got a bunch of townreads but no scumreads.

[T3]

You probably answered already, but how Flea know who didn't refuse PM instantly.

I think Korina said in the op at some point.

[Raya36]

The strange was more "i would be surprised if this logic came from town" strange.

I get the sentiment, just seemed an odd way to say scummy if that was the point you were making at the time

Yeah, I agree with this. There's less attachment to a read if you use words like strange to describe scummy.

Lemons can have townpoints for caring about the solve enough to check up on meta. Scum can do this too, but in my experience its a towny thing more often than not.

it's my experience that lemons just generally puts way too much effort into games

Lemons seems to be a strong player which is actually why they were my rvs vote

[Umlaut]

Who's scum rn off the top of your head if not Flea?

No clue, I've got a bunch of townreads but no scumreads.

Sympathetic to this.

TRs now are Flea, Lemons, Raya. Maybe osuka too but that's more gut than anything I've thought about.

VOTE: Enchant

Don't see any reason to care enough about the question in 42 to reiterate it in 115. This reads like fake activity to me.

[Flea The Magician]

Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.

You could start by answering my post addressed to you!

who are you and which one?

RVS Breaker: My vote was serious. Discuss.

No it wasn't. At least not beyond the trivial "all votes are to some extent serious" sense of the phrase. If I'm wrong and you have a real reason you're welcome to share it instead of inviting us to play 20 Questions.

They read their Role PM but didn't confirm it until later.

I'm having trouble following, both how you came to this conclusion (I saw it was later verified though), and why that would make them more likely to be scum/cult/whatever?

It's explained in thread, but to surmise.

Cult is an uncommon and totally not bastard mechanic, while the rest are fairly common and standard roles on MS. My first thought was confirming mechanics before confirming the role

[Flea The Magician]

How Flea even know how many time exact player waste on reading role.

It was part of the confirmation edits in the PList post by the mod It caught my eye and became my opening vote.

Almost like I responded in realtime

[Enchant]

... No.

Like look.

Assume i open my role PM, and after decide not to confirm for a bit. After that i open it again, and confirm.

How you know i opened PM, but didn't answer to it? It's literally impossible.

[Raya36]

... No.

Like look.

Assume i open my role PM, and after decide not to confirm for a bit. After that i open it again, and confirm.

How you know i opened PM, but didn't answer to it? It's literally impossible.

If I understand correctly when the pm was open but not confirmed, Korina wrote that in the confirmation edits in the first post. So anyone watching that post would have seen that the lemons opened their role pm but didn't confirm. Then later when it was confirmed Korina of course updated that.

[T3]

If you pm someone I think you can click on your outbox to see if it has been opened.