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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:27 am

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You can see it here, Kori evidently used it, and made note of it enough to update the confirmations list, I also saw it and made use of the information.


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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:47 am

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we're wasting time. enchant, i've confirmed that flea's information is correct. the push they've made has been responded to. there's no secret "role PM receipt status cop". what is the purpose of this line of questioning?
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:21 am

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Wasting time with 12 days.

AHAHAHHAHAHA.
No.

Atleast i understand now, thanks.
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:21 am

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In post 126, InsidiousLemons wrote:we're wasting time. enchant, i've confirmed that flea's information is correct. the push they've made has been responded to. there's no secret "role PM receipt status cop". what is the purpose of this line of questioning?
I would say busy work but I can also understand wanting to understand
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:38 am

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I think the questioning is legit to be honest, if the phrasing of it is a little odd.

Major Minor is the main one I'm concerned about following on from all of this.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:13 am

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In post 114, osuka wrote:
In post 101, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 93, Major Minor wrote:
In post 77, Flea The Magician wrote:Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.
You could start by answering my post addressed to you!
Am lowkey sus of this slot - posts in the thread to refute criticism but doesn't add anything about the wider game or ask any new questions.
this is a dogshit post

he's putting pressure on a slot that didn't answer his question and that is objectively a good thing
Pipe down - yes, there's nothing wrong with following up on a question (in fact, it's actually towny), but when that is literally all the slot had done at that point it feels like hiding in plain sight
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:16 am

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In post 128, Raya36 wrote:
In post 126, InsidiousLemons wrote:we're wasting time. enchant, i've confirmed that flea's information is correct. the push they've made has been responded to. there's no secret "role PM receipt status cop". what is the purpose of this line of questioning?
I would say busy work but I can also understand wanting to understand
Lemons strikes me as intense so far but I think calling checking the facts here busywork is a bit of a reach
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:17 am

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Like I could see the whole wasting time thing as being town who's hyper focused on trying to solve
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:19 am

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Now that we've solved the mystery of the role PMs, perhaps we'll get some OC from MajorMinor
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:16 am

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In post 131, Marky Mark wrote:Lemons strikes me as intense so far
In post 113, osuka wrote:it's my experience that lemons just generally puts way too much effort into games
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:52 am

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I don't think the enchant questioning thing is AI.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:54 am

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In post 130, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 114, osuka wrote:
In post 101, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 93, Major Minor wrote:
In post 77, Flea The Magician wrote:Anyone else is ??? and needs to do something.
You could start by answering my post addressed to you!
Am lowkey sus of this slot - posts in the thread to refute criticism but doesn't add anything about the wider game or ask any new questions.
this is a dogshit post

he's putting pressure on a slot that didn't answer his question and that is objectively a good thing
Pipe down - yes, there's nothing wrong with following up on a question (in fact, it's actually towny), but when that is literally all the slot had done at that point it feels like hiding in plain sight
The game had been open like 12 hours, calm down.

I had also thrown down a RVS vote.

There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:56 am

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In post 120, Flea The Magician wrote:It's explained in thread, but to surmise.

Cult is an uncommon and totally not bastard mechanic, while the rest are fairly common and standard roles on MS. My first thought was confirming mechanics before confirming the role :)
I'm not sure this really clarified what I was misunderstanding, but someone else clarified later that the mod was notifying who had opened PMs and who hasn't, yes?
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:00 am

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In post 136, Major Minor wrote:There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
None spring to mind - perhaps you could enlighten me? :)
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:03 am

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In post 136, Major Minor wrote:There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:42 am

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In post 139, Umlaut wrote:
In post 136, Major Minor wrote:There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
WMFM

(This tell didn't actually work in my last game but I still think it has merit)
I don't know what this means.
In post 138, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 136, Major Minor wrote:There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
None spring to mind - perhaps you could enlighten me? :)
Sure.

Maruchan has still only posted once to ego the thread.
osuka had only random voted/shitposted, then didn't post at all between my two posts addressing Flea.
T3 had arguably only done one thing thus far, which is vote Flea for pressure to create discussion.

I posted to ask for clarification from Flea, then when Flea responded and did not answer my question, I pushed again and asked again for an answer. I didn't "refute" any criticism like you said? The criticism of "not adding anything" or "asking any new questions" could be applied to all of the people listed above.

Furthermore, I'll add that what I was doing was absolutely not adding anything about the wider gamestate, because I'm focusing on one specific thing and making sure I follow it to its conclusion rather than firing scattershot into the thread with a million different ideas/reads. That isn't a scumtell, nor is it a reason to be suspicious of a slot.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:06 am

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In post 140, Major Minor wrote: Maruchan has still only posted once to ego the thread.
we should policy her
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:08 am

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I'm not sure on what you're asking in that case.
The player list had confirmation status on who had confirmed, Lemons had opened the message but not confirmed the role according to said list. My angle at the time was cult may be a mechanic people are unfamiliar with and that was the reason for delay in role confirmation while cult mechanics were clarified.

It's unlikely Maruchan will be posting again, except to troll us.
Osuka I'm unfamiliar with.
T3 is currently within their normal range.

Perhaps ask questions and things to generate discussion instead of just idly knocking the slots.
Have you manage to form any notable reads from my shenangians?
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:08 am

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In post 141, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 140, Major Minor wrote: Maruchan has still only posted once to ego the thread.
we should policy her
Twice in 2 consecutive games ain't fair, give her a chance :(
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:17 am

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osuka tone is towny to me by meta. I've only played games with him as scum so not totally sure.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:21 pm

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In post 140, Major Minor wrote:
In post 139, Umlaut wrote:
In post 136, Major Minor wrote:There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
WMFM

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I don't know what this means.
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Responding to accusations by asking "why me and not [these other people]?" is +scum
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 141, InsidiousLemons wrote:
In post 140, Major Minor wrote: Maruchan has still only posted once to ego the thread.
we should policy her
Ah I see. I'm unfamiliar with co-mods posting in the game unless they are called in to back up.
In post 142, Flea The Magician wrote:I'm not sure on what you're asking in that case.
The player list had confirmation status on who had confirmed, Lemons had opened the message but not confirmed the role according to said list. My angle at the time was cult may be a mechanic people are unfamiliar with and that was the reason for delay in role confirmation while cult mechanics were clarified.

It's unlikely Maruchan will be posting again, except to troll us.
Osuka I'm unfamiliar with.
T3 is currently within their normal range.

Perhaps ask questions and things to generate discussion instead of just idly knocking the slots.
Have you manage to form any notable reads from my shenangians?
I'm not sure what someone's "normal range" is. I was asked to point to other people who had produced similarly low levels of content as me at the time I was criticized for not contributing other content. I was not asking you to give me a meta read on anybody. When I asked questions, I was blasted for asking questions and then asking for follow up when my questions were ignored. When I was asked to point to other slots that were inactive, I get told I should be asking questions instead. Seems I'm trapped in a "damned if you do" situation, aren't I?

Feels rather disingenuous on your part, tbh.
In post 145, Umlaut wrote:
In post 140, Major Minor wrote:
In post 139, Umlaut wrote:
In post 136, Major Minor wrote:There are other slots who had done less (and have still done less) and yet you're not applying the same scrutiny to them yet. Strange.
WMFM

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I don't know what this means.
Why Me = Fry Me

Responding to accusations by asking "why me and not [these other people]?" is +scum
Agree to disagree. Sometimes, a person can, in fact, be pointing out logical inconsistencies in someone's thought patterns.
I don't know if this inconsistency is alignment-indicative. I think both town and scum are capable of having glitches in the matrix, so to speak.

That being said, I'm suspicious of both Marky Mark & Flea at this point. They're both seemingly trying to take these big leadership positions, which seems like a good place to hide D1 to ensure I do
not
believe they are likely scum together. Especially in this setup, I could see the importance of directing any Day 1 wagons away from your cult leader to ensure they get to recruit somebody Night 1. And in a game this small, there's not much room to maneuver unless one cult is willing to step forward and be loud enough to steer things.

If Flea is town, I could see Lemons being cult... but if Flea is cult, I don't believe Lemons is likely to be a buddy, as that is a wild Day 1 soft-bus to start the game with. Some of their play I see as downplaying Flea's theory aggressively.
Other than those two, I have a slight town read on Raya for their earlier posting, esp. the reaction to Flea's push on Lemon.
Enchant pings me as possible scum due to the cheeky opening post and the early posts directing town PRs and stuff? It comes across as LAMIST.
T3 reads town/genuine to me.


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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:33 pm

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what if
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:33 pm

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i bump the thread
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:33 pm

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multiple times
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