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[shiki]

it certainly makes you more likely to be mafia; being opposed to a mass claim but potentially giving yourself the benefit of claiming without actually having to claim or even be committed to that stance is potentially mafia-adjacent yes

like if you were afraid of mafia having any knowledge you wouldn't say you townread t3 for reasons right? because if you are town that gives the mafia knowledge, so you could be trying to wifom the mafia, which would be bad because it helps the mafia by misleading the town,

[shiki]

so there aren't a lot of options left to see it as town behaviour, so +mafia

[humaneatingmonkey]

hmmm okay

[humaneatingmonkey]

you think i'm softing PR?

[humaneatingmonkey]

i'm not softing PR

[shiki]

you think i'm softing PR?

no i think you are being vague and potentially softing pr while also being able to deny you are doing so

[humaneatingmonkey]

my thought process will be made clearer soon

[humaneatingmonkey]

interesting that your first reaction to slots you thought softed PR is to make them claim.

[shiki]

interesting that your first reaction to slots you thought softed PR is to make them claim.

i would like everyone to claim, as i have already stated

[humaneatingmonkey]

why?

[shiki]

interesting that your first reaction to slots you thought softed PR is to make them claim.

i would like everyone to claim, as i have already stated

and starting with the slots taking 'i

might

have knowledge' stances so they have to commit seems logical

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why are we massclaiming on d2 again?

[shiki]

why?

seems the best way to solve the game, much more likely to result in finding the mafia than another day like yesterday, for setup reasons it makes much more sense to do so today than tomorrow

[shiki]

Why are we massclaiming on d2 again?

do you believe in the current direction of this game? have you thought about the implications of 3 mafia alive in 10 players right now, 2 dead vanilla town, 12 player game from the beginning, and a potential counterclaim situation tomorrow?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Why are we massclaiming on d2 again?

i also don't understand shiki here man

scum wouldn't be this brazen, right?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I think any and all PRs still being alive with 2 days worth of info tomorrow IF we mislim today still leaves this game very solvable. And I like that bet better than outing them all today and hoping for the best

[humaneatingmonkey]

seems the best way to solve the game, much more likely to result in finding the mafia than another day like yesterday, for setup reasons it makes much more sense to do so today than tomorrow

why? this is what i'm missing. you reiterate that it's the best way to solve the game, but i'm not seeing why

[shiki]

why? this is what i'm missing. you reiterate that it's the best way to solve the game, but i'm not seeing why

because it does not feel as though the current direction of the game will result in a town victory and the best way i know to solve the game from here is a mass claim

[shiki]

And I like that bet better than outing them all today and hoping for the best

it isn't 'hoping for the best' when we can just use the gained knowledge to solve the game, i do not understand why leaving the game solvable is more advantageous to you than solving the game here,

[humaneatingmonkey]

you can't just say something as opaque and broad like that thinking that I will automatically understand you. your claim is that the current direction of the game will not result in a town victory. support that claim. what about the current direction of the game makes you think mass claim is the best way to solve it? if you say "2 dead vanilla townies" then that's meaningless until you demonstrate what 2 dead vanilla townies imply and why it makes the game unsolvable without a massclaim.

[humaneatingmonkey]

honestly, 2 dead vanilla townies seem like an ideal situation if we indeed have PRs. so I'm not at all empathizing with your POV here.

[shiki]

your claim is that the current direction of the game will not result in a town victory. support that claim. what about the current direction of the game makes you think mass claim is the best way to solve it? if you say "2 dead vanilla townies" then that's meaningless until you demonstrate what 2 dead vanilla townies imply and why it makes the game unsolvable without a massclaim.

two dead vanilla town implies that there are very likely only 3 to 5 vanilla town currently alive and mafia will be likely to claim a role, resulting in a potential counterclaim, like have you thought about the setup at all

[humaneatingmonkey]

claim a role, resulting in a potential counterclaim

Mafia have daytalk.
Mafia are multitasking.
The alignment distribution is 9:3.

What about the setup makes you think this?

[shiki]

your claim is that the current direction of the game will not result in a town victory. support that claim. what about the current direction of the game makes you think mass claim is the best way to solve it?

because you continued pushing a bad wagon despite acting like you wanted my input? and sigmund and not hectic are the other two most active participants in the game and they both were extremely scummy at end of day yesterday and are now fighting with eachother?

[shiki]

What about the setup makes you think this?

otherwise they are trapped in vt poe, it isn't complicated