Mini Normal 2213 - Village (End Game)

[MaxTheFox]

VFP looks calm but underneath he is melting and fearing for his life... when he's hanged we will just have one scum left.

[MaxTheFox]

Woo! First pagetop!

[MaxTheFox]

He is scum trying to kill me because I am pushing him and SRed his buddy before he said buddy was hanged. I will probs die tonight.

[MaxTheFox]

*the said

[samantha97]

Votecount

Gamma Emerald [3]:

Save The Dragons, ItalianoVD, VFP

VFP [2]:

Gamma Emerald, MaxTheFox

Not Voting: Noraa, JohnnyFarrar, ssbm_Kyouko, Andresvmb

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to reach majority.

The day will end in (expired on 2021-06-09 19:58:00) or when majority is reached.

[VFP]

Well shit. He would have been better off claiming, yes he would have probably died that night but town night actions would be more informed.

VOTE: Free Money Free Tea

You didn't even listen to the guy wanting to catch up.

Now honestly. I'm kinda nervous. We lost what appears to be our strongest townie day 1. A combined cop/JK seems extremely strong and I don't think there are many other town PRs.

VOTE: VFP

Scum lean
FMFT - his hammer is weird and his actions are needlessly brash.

Could just be a townie with a weird playstyle.

I too believe that making 3 posts on a suspected player is a scum read.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think VFP knew Gamma's role before it was revealed yesterDay and jumped the gun on voting him during FMFT'S partial claim. VFP was very active during the FMFT claim, more active than he has generally been in this game and prior to him voting Gamma for [reasons?] He had not voiced any suspicion of Gamma. Soon after he just says "I trust Gamma", switches to voting me, again for [reasons] (rolefishing?) and finally switches to Noraa for [reasons], although he has voiced suspicion of Noraa on D1 because she TRed him. He votes several people besides FMFT despite being one of the first onto his wagon. I think he wanted to get the vote in early before it looked like a bus as a hedge bet, and when FMFT wasn't speedlimmed for hammering RLotus, VFP saw a chance to try to shift the wagon without looking too suspicious.

As Noraa has pointed out his interaction with Max has been unusual his game but if you read them both you'll see Max's tone is fairly consistent and is likely to come from a newbie, regardless of alignment. VFP is also very actively (for VFP) keeping the idea of a Max lynch fresh hut never votes her. He also consistently discredits her and I think it's probably because 1) she's easy to discredit as a newbie and 2) people arent really paying attention to what she's saying as it is

Also threw in a quick look at the votes D1 and LMAO he was voting Gamma from RVS until Lotus was E-2. He did not push Gamma D1 and then morning of D2 he comes out the gate bussing his teammate who hammered the very same person he put to E-2

VOTE: VFP

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm going to assume that there either is no Follower and that part of Gamma's role is modbait, or scum has the follower, and that is why nobody has said anything yet

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Let's keep it that way unless the follower saw someone visit Dunn

[ssbm_Kyouko]

[quote="In post 1031, ssbm_Kyouko"

Also threw in a quick look at the votes D1 and LMAO he was voting Gamma from RVS until Lotus was E-2. He did not push Gamma D1 and then morning of D2 he comes out the gate bussing his teammate who hammered the very same person he put to

E-1

VOTE: VFP[/quote]
EBWOP - E-1*

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Ugh, in 1031 I meant to say VFP sat on Gamma all day then moved his vote to RLotus, putting RLotus to E-1

[Noraa]

I'm glad someone finally said something about Johnny's reaction to Lukewarm

You also thought it was weird?

[Noraa]

I still think Johnny could be trying to town it up with Noraa as to not set off her radar

This is just funny but I think only Noraa and I are laughing

I agree lol. there is legit like no way for him to "town it up" for me. I seriously just *always* SR you. There literally are no exceptions.

[Noraa]

I mean mon always seems scummy to me. So like if ur asking if I think he's scummy, yeah I do. But I always think that so it might just mean his town tbh.

Was there ever a time where you scum read him right? If so what was it that did it for you?

I've never SRed him correctly I dont think. He's always been town with town me.

[Noraa]

Think I'll have to reread d2 cuz I feel convinced Gamma's being framed and I'm just confbiasing at this point. I feel like FMFT was already screwed after that hammer and scum sacced him in an attempt to draw out PRs.

cop enabler doesn't really count as a pr imo. Also I think gamma's just scum here atp.

[Noraa]

Cool my other SR was true.

VOTE: VFP this is still most likely scum.

oh my god. please. if you're town, stop doing this otherwise we will lim you tomorrow and you will have no one to blame but yourself. if you're town, scum isn't even gonna have to push you to the chopping block. you literally got onto the chopping block yourself and gave the executioner a blade.

Oml. I sincerely hope max the fox is scum because he's definitely dying tomorrow if he keeps this up.
I also just think gamma is scum now bc of the hesitancy despite gamma being pretty obvious scum?


I keep having paranoia on people like ssb and VFP. But with these people that look terribly obvscum, I dont even know what to do anymore.

[Noraa]

and SRed his buddy

who is VFP's buddy?

[Noraa]

I think VFP knew Gamma's role before it was revealed yesterDay and jumped the gun on voting him during FMFT'S partial claim. VFP was very active during the FMFT claim, more active than he has generally been in this game and prior to him voting Gamma for [reasons?] He had not voiced any suspicion of Gamma. Soon after he just says "I trust Gamma", switches to voting me, again for [reasons] (rolefishing?) and finally switches to Noraa for [reasons], although he has voiced suspicion of Noraa on D1 because she TRed him. He votes several people besides FMFT despite being one of the first onto his wagon. I think he wanted to get the vote in early before it looked like a bus as a hedge bet, and when FMFT wasn't speedlimmed for hammering RLotus, VFP saw a chance to try to shift the wagon without looking too suspicious.

As Noraa has pointed out his interaction with Max has been unusual his game but if you read them both you'll see Max's tone is fairly consistent and is likely to come from a newbie, regardless of alignment. VFP is also very actively (for VFP) keeping the idea of a Max lynch fresh hut never votes her. He also consistently discredits her and I think it's probably because 1) she's easy to discredit as a newbie and 2) people arent really paying attention to what she's saying as it is

Also threw in a quick look at the votes D1 and LMAO he was voting Gamma from RVS until Lotus was E-2. He did not push Gamma D1 and then morning of D2 he comes out the gate bussing his teammate who hammered the very same person he put to E-2

VOTE: VFP

Either you are super off base, you are scum, or I am terribly off base.
I think ... that you are super off base.
VFP and Max's interactions do look bad and im 99% sure that there is scum there but it makes more sense that its max than VFP.
Max just modded a game recently. That kind of tells me that she's not that new?
Also VFP is just super scummy so I dont see why thats a defining factor. Discrediting can just as easily come from town as scum. Like if I am certain someone is scum. The first thing I will do is discredit the people TRing that person. I also think VFP might just be doing it out of spite
Like yeah, his posts have been the scummiest thing in the world but apparently that's what his play style evolved into. Back a while ago, I watched a couple of games with him in it and even played a game with town him as scum, I remember his play was really amazing for a newbie. But the more recent games, his play has been really bad as town and I think its just like a phase of his play :/

Maybe ur right and VFP is scum. Idk I had a SR on VFP but Max is just too scummy and I dont have the same meta context for her as VFP. She also just SRs VFP for literal no reason and that worries me more than VFP's dumb and snarky comebacks.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'm glad someone finally said something about Johnny's reaction to Lukewarm

You also thought it was weird?

Yes, it reminded me of scum ThinkBig in a previous game I recently was rereading where Dunnstral was scum. They NKed me N1 and TB had planned to frame other players based on my bad reads, and the first thing he said on the morning of D2 was along the lines of "Kyouko knew too much"

Johnny's post morning of D2 also felt a little like that, a sort of rehearsed post that didnt have the intended effect. At the same time though it's not really coordinated with FMFT's activity morning of D2

Pedit: will reconsider Max knowing she's modded recently

[Andresvmb]

I’m VLA until tonight.

[MaxTheFox]

and SRed his buddy

who is VFP's buddy?

FMFT. I scumread FMFT as I mentioned before. I think that is the reason VFP is pushing hard on me.

And I didn't mod anything on-site, you are wrong. I modded a chat mafia game before but the meta is different there.

I'm glad someone finally said something about Johnny's reaction to Lukewarm

You also thought it was weird?

Yes, it reminded me of scum ThinkBig in a previous game I recently was rereading where Dunnstral was scum. They NKed me N1 and TB had planned to frame other players based on my bad reads, and the first thing he said on the morning of D2 was along the lines of "Kyouko knew too much"

Johnny's post morning of D2 also felt a little like that, a sort of rehearsed post that didnt have the intended effect. At the same time though it's not really coordinated with FMFT's activity morning of D2

Pedit: will reconsider Max knowing she's modded recently

Link me the game I allegedly modded. Either I am sleepwalking or you are confusing me with someone.

[MaxTheFox]

I already stated my reason to SR VFP. Most of his content

was

snarky comebacks. He did next to nothing all game besides just stay in the background and try to look townie.

[MaxTheFox]

If he is town then he made a mistake with that dumb playstyle. But unlikely.

[MaxTheFox]

The reason I tunnel on VFP is that he is my only strong SR at this point. Everyone else is null or townie.

[VFP]

If Fox ever flips green it's just Nora.
Nora using a bucket to try and scoop up sandy town credit here? I'll smash your sand castle down if needed!

Or Fox is just scum then Nora should probably be considered and hardstuck town.