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Titus · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:50 am

I'll be back tonight possibly.

Titus · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:09 am

VLA until Monday

Titus · Post Post #35 (isolation #2) » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:08 am

VOTE: bugspray

Titus · Post Post #118 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:50 am

In post 57, VFP wrote:So far in the VFP block

Gera
Bugs
Jake
Titus
T3
Roden
Egix
Ex

What's this mean?

Titus · Post Post #119 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:50 am

In post 59, DrippingGoofball wrote:VOTE: x
Cw357

Who?

Titus · Post Post #120 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:53 am

Ugh I hate we're still in RVS.

Vote me if you have to.

Titus · Post Post #174 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:17 am

I may go vla but I'll know more later this week.

Titus · Post Post #191 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:03 pm

In post 175, VFP wrote:I hope everything is okay, Titus.

Thanks. It largely is, but I am swamped at work. If my trial next week goes, I'll have to vla for it. I won't know if it goes for a bit though.

Titus · Post Post #212 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:27 am

VLA until Friday

X post all games

Titus · Post Post #218 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:06 am

In post 215, Jake The Wolfie wrote:We are voting Ircher. He hasn't spoken lately.

Nor have I? What's the difference?

Titus · Post Post #241 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:37 pm

VOTE: Roden

Who do you think is the best vote to shake things up?

Titus · Post Post #246 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:33 pm

In post 242, Roden wrote:
In post 241, Titus wrote:VOTE: Roden

Who do you think is the best vote to shake things up?
If the question is for me, I've already laid down my vote. DGB, if not a Traitor, is still coming off very anti-town, and they're not doing anything to change that. And I wasn't the one to suggest it in the first place either, since their actions were confusing me until the possibility of them being a Traitor came up.

I didn't ask vote to eliminate. I asked for your vote if you were causing drama for drama's sake to get reads.

This traitor thing is bleh.

Titus · Post Post #265 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:34 am

In post 252, Roden wrote:
In post 246, Titus wrote:
In post 242, Roden wrote:
In post 241, Titus wrote:VOTE: Roden

Who do you think is the best vote to shake things up?
If the question is for me, I've already laid down my vote. DGB, if not a Traitor, is still coming off very anti-town, and they're not doing anything to change that. And I wasn't the one to suggest it in the first place either, since their actions were confusing me until the possibility of them being a Traitor came up.
I didn't ask vote to eliminate. I asked for your vote if you were causing drama for drama's sake to get reads.

This traitor thing is bleh.
I wasn't trying to cause drama tbh. I pushed on something that pinged me and felt better on keeping it up when I got pushed back on it.

I don't think the Traitor thing is guaranteed, and I don't want to tunnel on it. It's why I keep asking for what others think. What about it is bleh to you?

You don't want to tunnel on it but you keep bringing focus on it. Here's a way to not tunnel on it, stop talking about it. Traitor comments waste time unless one flips.

Titus · Post Post #266 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:36 am

In post 264, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 261, bugspray wrote:
In post 252, Roden wrote:I wasn't trying to cause drama tbh
do townies ever say thisa
I'm not sure what scum vibes you're getting from it.

It's sorta a fair response to get defensive if he thought I was implying he was causing drama, so I left it out of my prior post.

I wasn't accusing him of starting drama. I was asking him what he'd do to shake up the game to get a read.

Titus · Post Post #267 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:38 am

In post 263, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Or maybe Jessèca hasn't been paying much attention to the game (which explains why they got prodded) so they gave out something quick and dirty so that theybwouldn't get repped.

That's probably the truth regardless of alignment. Still replacements and prod dodgers tend to be scum so DGB has a point.

Titus · Post Post #269 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:49 am

Who are your suspects then Jake?

Titus · Post Post #295 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:25 am

In post 291, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 289, Egix96 wrote:
In post 284, Rannygazoo wrote:Cw was prodded six times in our last game.
How does that even happen... I thought it was a three-strike system?
It was a newbie game and the mod was focused on retaining new players. (And maybe the mod didn't want to bring anyone new into such a miserable game.)

You can already see the pattern with cw: apologize for being inactive, post something that proves he's not following, bounce, repeat. Just eliminate the slot.

While if cw continues to do this, we'd have to. I'd rather use d1 to hunt though.

Titus · Post Post #302 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:43 am

In post 299, VFP wrote:I think its random question stage...
If I'm right it's just stuff like what do you prefer scum or town and pointless things like that.

Yes, that's RQS.

Titus · Post Post #317 (isolation #18) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:41 pm

I like Jessica Rabbit as town.

Titus · Post Post #343 (isolation #19) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:36 pm

In post 322, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
In post 321, Rannygazoo wrote:Saying you won't trust my reads and then asking for my reads? Really makes you think.
I KNOW that you’re wrong about me so that means I’m not allowed to ask you about yours?

And answer my question. You’re just shading me without giving a single reason. What have I done that’s remotely scummy?

There's plenty of reasons for this. If you're town, she can see that through other reads and see your biases which may help catch scum. Second, if you're scum, it helps find buddies. Third, and most obvious, it helps determine if your reads are fabricated.

Titus · Post Post #379 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:16 pm

It is but I'm not going to out the modifier to ensure that cw has to come up with the answer on their own.

Titus · Post Post #383 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Loyal is the correct modifier.

Titus · Post Post #396 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:29 am

Sorry, I'm not likely to be on today.

X post all games.

Titus · Post Post #473 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:09 pm

In post 416, cw357 wrote:
In post 383, Titus wrote:Loyal is the correct modifier.

maybe we're both wolves

could titus be telling me that to in essence pocket me or whatever
like trying to work into the townclears

it would be a big-brain strategy but not necessarily too far-fetched

i wouldn't mind the idea of the vig targeting titus and ill doc so that kill doesnt go through
although if vig is fakeclaiming it could get screwed up

I really don't get why stating something based off years of experience has been all this AI. Feels like I'm being pocketed.

That would make it odd to pocket me unless I might be the decider and one of the wagons might be on scum.

Titus · Post Post #475 (isolation #24) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:10 pm

In post 422, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 401, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 398, Jake The Wolfie wrote:How would a Doctor be helpful if T3 is town?
Cw can heal T3 and vig can shoot T3 to verify town alignment

Of course, T3 just dies if cw is lying or is roleblocked

There’s your daily does of IIOA
And why would we assume there is a vigilante?
This is just filled with holes.

I agree here.

Titus · Post Post #477 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:12 pm

In post 438, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am digging cw's recent posting streak.

So am I, even if he doesn't like me.

Titus · Post Post #483 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:19 pm

In post 454, T3 wrote:VOTE: DGB
Cadtsting doubt on the ce claim for no reason.

VOTE: T3

There's no real scum motivation for shading an outed doctor claim, while honestly assessing his content. If DGB is believable that she might vote cw at some point, then it could keep a doctor alive. If she's right, she undermines scum credibility.

If DGB is scum, why shade a town cw with a short shelf life? They could just kill it and no one is the wiser. If it's scum, why attack her teammates credibility which only shortens the lifespan?

You could argue wifom but attacking an outed doctor claim rarely comes from scum.

Titus · Post Post #486 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:22 pm

Ex, who are your biggest TRs?

Titus · Post Post #489 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:23 pm

In post 485, excallq wrote:
In post 480, Jessica Rabbit wrote:
In post 471, excallq wrote:
In post 469, Rannygazoo wrote:@excallq how about this: if I were out of the picture and my slot never existed, who would your biggest scumread be?
Are we assuming your disappearance means that your exchange with Roden didn't happen? If so probably CW. I am abundantly skeptical of his roleclaim, (though I would absolutely not push for a day 1 vote of him). Otherwise Roden.
Why are you skeptical of his roleclaim? It’s seems a weird thing to fakeclaim. Why doesn’t he just claim straight up doc?
Because it looks way less fishy when he doesn't die night one.

The loyal part actually would make the claim more suspicious upon living, not less, if you buy into that wifom.

Titus · Post Post #491 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:25 pm

In post 487, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 483, Titus wrote:
In post 454, T3 wrote:VOTE: DGB
Cadtsting doubt on the ce claim for no reason.
VOTE: T3

There's no real scum motivation for shading an outed doctor claim, while honestly assessing his content. If DGB is believable that she might vote cw at some point, then it could keep a doctor alive. If she's right, she undermines scum credibility.

If DGB is scum, why shade a town cw with a short shelf life? They could just kill it and no one is the wiser. If it's scum, why attack her teammates credibility which only shortens the lifespan?

You could argue wifom but attacking an outed doctor claim rarely comes from scum.
Is “she” canon?

Someone else— I forget who right now— explained that a doctor is not a priority kill right now if there’s a macho cop in play.

No one's claimed macho cop. That's a very specific claim and one I don't expect to be played around.

She is an older pronoun DGB used to use and I don't think they object to it.

Titus · Post Post #517 (isolation #30) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:33 am

It feels like excalq just summed out rather than be eliminated. It makes me feel the slot is town but gives me a salty taste about it as town reading the slot encourages that behavior and its OOG.

Titus · Post Post #519 (isolation #31) » Sat Jun 12, 2021 9:12 am

In post 515, T3 wrote:Tr on jessica for now, her points about cw I agree with. Titus fails to mention that there is no town motivation behind dgb still not believing cw so I think I'll keep my vote there.

I got my second shot yesterday and as a result of it my JIA is acting up again so I'm just stuck on the couch feeling like shit on the first day of sumer break

I literally just mentioned the town motivation. There's no way you're this dense.

Titus · Post Post #581 (isolation #32) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:07 pm

Sorry I had an anxious breakdown this weekend. Catching up now.

Titus · Post Post #582 (isolation #33) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:11 pm

I still feel like T3 is the best vote here. Nothing about these subs changes my mind.

Titus · Post Post #585 (isolation #34) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:28 pm

I know stategically it may be what the game needs. I disagree with it personally but I am not God and not batting 100%

Titus · Post Post #593 (isolation #35) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:35 pm

VOTE: NotMafia

Titus · Post Post #596 (isolation #36) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:37 pm

It's the closest I come to a lolhammer for a lolhammer player. Game deserves game.

Titus · Post Post #604 (isolation #37) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:07 pm

I'm not sure what to make of it either.

Titus · Post Post #611 (isolation #38) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:35 pm

Was there anyone who scumread her?

Titus · Post Post #615 (isolation #39) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:58 pm

In post 614, Roden wrote:Also I doubt the 2-shot Cop wants to speak up since they can't be protected, but if they got a Guilty read on someone last night I think it would be a good idea if they did.

If there's a cop, they should wait until midday to out.

Titus · Post Post #619 (isolation #40) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:23 pm

I don't want the day to devolve into pacts and stuff. I want scumhunting. Scum can easily hide behind pacts. If we do yeet cw, I want clear accountability.

Titus · Post Post #623 (isolation #41) » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:35 pm

@Ranny, A policy elimination is appropriate in some circumstances.

On day 2 with a kill that is largely unexplained is not the time to policy lim a doctor claim. I'm not opposed to eliminating him but I want discussion not just a straight up elim.

Titus · Post Post #632 (isolation #42) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:44 am

In post 624, VFP wrote:
In post 622, Rannygazoo wrote:Not if he’s mafia loyal doctor.
Then there's no need to claim loyal.
As loyal suggests a vig, I would expect cw scum to try and get.a.scum buddy shot to clear them as scum.

That strategy carries too much risk if cw flips before his target.

Titus · Post Post #633 (isolation #43) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:46 am

In post 631, Egix96 wrote:
In post 627, geraintm wrote:not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....
We probably shouldn't yeet KA. That's my nugget of wisdom for today.

I don't think anyone is suggesting to yeet KA.

Titus · Post Post #634 (isolation #44) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:51 am

In post 627, geraintm wrote:not much to say until everyone of interest says what happened....

Who is of interest?

Titus · Post Post #636 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:30 am

In post 630, Egix96 wrote:
In post 606, Roden wrote:And why was Excall making those weird plays if he was Town the whole time?
People do questionable stuff as town all the time. Usually it's best to just accept that it happened and move on.

Partially. Scum can exacerbate odd behavior. I should check that.

Titus · Post Post #651 (isolation #46) » Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:44 am

In post 645, Roden wrote:And did anybody else see the Cop fishing?

Where?

Titus · Post Post #662 (isolation #47) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:57 am

VOTE: T3[/votes]

Let's get some votes down.

Titus · Post Post #664 (isolation #48) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:03 am

VOTE: T3

I don't. If you feel there's a better direction, lay your vote down there please.

Titus · Post Post #667 (isolation #49) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:15 am

In post 483, Titus wrote:
In post 454, T3 wrote:VOTE: DGB
Cadtsting doubt on the ce claim for no reason.
VOTE: T3

There's no real scum motivation for shading an outed doctor claim, while honestly assessing his content. If DGB is believable that she might vote cw at some point, then it could keep a doctor alive. If she's right, she undermines scum credibility.

If DGB is scum, why shade a town cw with a short shelf life? They could just kill it and no one is the wiser. If it's scum, why attack her teammates credibility which only shortens the lifespan?

You could argue wifom but attacking an outed doctor claim rarely comes from scum.

In post 519, Titus wrote:
In post 515, T3 wrote:Tr on jessica for now, her points about cw I agree with. Titus fails to mention that there is no town motivation behind dgb still not believing cw so I think I'll keep my vote there.

I got my second shot yesterday and as a result of it my JIA is acting up again so I'm just stuck on the couch feeling like shit on the first day of sumer break
I literally just mentioned the town motivation. There's no way you're this dense.

In post 582, Titus wrote:I still feel like T3 is the best vote here. Nothing about these subs changes my mind.

Titus · Post Post #672 (isolation #50) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:57 am

In post 671, Rannygazoo wrote:So maybe DGB is right? We flip T3 to see if there’s a macho 2-shot cop?

Why? A macho 2 shot cop can just claim on d3. No point in limming just to get info that can come tmo anyway.

Titus · Post Post #673 (isolation #51) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:57 am

If we lim T3, it's based on his play not info.

Titus · Post Post #712 (isolation #52) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:45 am

In post 710, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think at this point we should go ahead with the day assuming that CW's slot "dies silent"

I think we should go on with the day, but they're likely getting subbed not being silent the whole day.

Titus · Post Post #717 (isolation #53) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:19 am

In post 714, Egix96 wrote:Btw, if "sfumato" and "chiaroscuro" are words from another language, an explanation of what they mean is probably needed.

Right. Agreed here.

Titus · Post Post #719 (isolation #54) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:24 am

In post 718, T3 wrote:VOTE: VFP
Epiphany.

Based on?

Titus · Post Post #723 (isolation #55) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:55 am

Titus · Post Post #734 (isolation #56) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:13 am

Not sure what to think here. I suspect a scum in KA, Rodan, Geratin but no more than 1.

Titus · Post Post #737 (isolation #57) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:36 am

In post 735, geraintm wrote:@titus why do you think I am scum? I've not worked outbwhat the case is against me yet

I'm not certain you are scum. That post is just a general feeling based on the conversations between the three of you and I wanted to document the thought.

If you think of my reads of the three of you as a triangle game of pool, I need to get the ball into one pocket, but I'm not sure which one to shoot at. They all look equally valid but I'm not sure which one is actually a hole versus just black fabric.

@Ranny, don't answer for me.

Titus · Post Post #741 (isolation #58) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:01 pm

In post 740, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 737, Titus wrote:@Ranny, don't answer for me.
If my answer could have prevented you from giving your own answer, you’re more delicate than I had thought.

It doesn't prevent me from answering but occasionally blocks others from determining my own organic thoughts versus some other sheepish nonsense if we think similarly.

Titus · Post Post #758 (isolation #59) » Sat Jun 19, 2021 3:11 am

In post 742, Roden wrote:Titus, what do you think of KA's summary being inconsistent with his reads? Do you think I'm just full of shit or possibly looking for town mistakes?

I understand you think any of the three of us being scum is a valid option, but I'd like to know your perspective here. Even if you're uncertain, that's better than sitting on the fence.

Talking this out may help.

Your vote is on Geratim to get KidAmn to vote there, not because you necessarily think Geratim is the scummiest. My gut wants the question answered of why not vote KidAmn?

Yet, I agree that Geratim hasn't brought much to the table which can be cause for concern, so voting there makes sense and gambiting a scumread feels townie even though your vote isn't on your scumread.

KidAmn's expression of shit being organic is likely true, regardless of his alignment. Yet, he's not taking a stance on Geratim for the most part. He's still not really commenting on his position now when asked. He's just defending his NAI procedure.

Overall, if I had to guess, I'd put KidAmn as the scum out of the three but don't hold me to it.

Titus · Post Post #788 (isolation #60) » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:40 am

I don't want an elimination before the replacement for cw shows but I am not opposed. I will not catch the troll disease.

Titus · Post Post #790 (isolation #61) » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:07 am

In post 789, Jake The Wolfie wrote:If KidAnn is scum (which, again I think they are scum for reasons I can't say right now), then it doesn't matter what CW, their replacement, or anyone else says. KidAnn would still be scum.

Cw is allegedly a loyal doctor, if there's a vig that shot his target that wasn't JR that could be three clears, which might be gamebreaking. I doubt it's the case, but I'd be remiss if I didn't see.

Titus · Post Post #791 (isolation #62) » Sun Jun 20, 2021 10:08 am

Scratch that, two clears with cw as likely clear.

Titus · Post Post #799 (isolation #63) » Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:38 am

In post 798, Roden wrote:Though I'm not sure why they don't just kill the Doc. Unless they want us to doubt the CW slot, but a Cop check also ruins that plan.

Town would not have a loyal doc, a cop, and a vig on the same team. It overpowers the setup.

Titus · Post Post #815 (isolation #64) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:58 pm

Vla today and tomorrow

I can't deal with anyone else asking me to fix their shit and being ungrateful for it.

I'm not in the mental health to play mafia.

X post all games.

Titus · Post Post #817 (isolation #65) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm

On a side note for this game alone, if anyone quickhammers while I am VLA Fuck you.

Titus · Post Post #818 (isolation #66) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:01 pm

In post 816, DrippingGoofball wrote:I send you some hugs.

Thank you.

Titus · Post Post #858 (isolation #67) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:18 am

I'm not a cop.

I'm still not scumhunting for mental health but I don't want to delay the game.

Titus · Post Post #862 (isolation #68) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:31 am

In post 861, VFP wrote:The 2 shot is irrelevant at that stage as it could be argued as giving false information to trick scum.

The mod cannot lie to scum. That would not be normal.

Titus · Post Post #866 (isolation #69) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:37 am

I don't think that bails T3 out unless X happened. I'm not saying X.

Titus · Post Post #876 (isolation #70) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:28 am

VOTE: T3

Thoughts on yesterday's wagon being an attempt to save T3?

Titus · Post Post #879 (isolation #71) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:36 am

In post 709, Umlaut wrote:
Vote Count 2.2

Federal Art Project poster promoting milk drinking in Cleveland, 1940.

T3
(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie, KidAmn

Roden
(2): Egix96, VFP

KidAmn
(1): Rannygazoo

geraintm
(1): Roden

Not voting
(4): DrippingGoofball, T3, cw357, geraintm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to yeet.

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-06-26 01:04:00)

In post 775, Umlaut wrote:
Vote Count 2.4

Century Building in Melbourne (1939).

T3
(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie, KidAmn

Roden
(3): Egix96, VFP, DrippingGoofball

KidAmn
(3): Rannygazoo, Roden, T3

Not voting
(2): cw357, geraintm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to yeet.

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-06-26 01:04:00)

Notes:

Seeking a replacement for cw357.

In post 811, Umlaut wrote:
Vote Count 2.5 (final)

'Lady with Panther' display card by George Barbier for Cartier, 1914.

KidAmn
(6): Rannygazoo, Roden, T3, Egix96, VFP, DrippingGoofball

T3
(3): Titus, Jake the Wolfie, KidAmn

Not voting
(2): cw357, geraintm

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to yeet.

Notes:

Seeking a replacement for cw357.

If T3 is scum, I would expect at least one of Egix, VFP, and DGB to be scum. Maybe all 3 but that's moonlogic and unlikely.

Titus · Post Post #895 (isolation #72) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:41 am

In post 882, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 879, Titus wrote:If T3 is scum, I would expect at least one of Egix, VFP, and DGB to be scum. Maybe all 3 but that's moonlogic and unlikely.
I like this solve and I'm willing to commit to yeeting T3 today, but there are some loose ends we should tie up before we move on. Particularly, Jake's mysterious FoS in 787, and DGB's quick hammer.

I don't recall care to push on Jake's 787. It might be ongoing games. It might be role related. When someone says they can't talk about it, I take them at their word.

Second, I don't see what else DGB can say beyond accident.

Titus · Post Post #918 (isolation #73) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:30 pm

T3 is at E-2

Titus · Post Post #923 (isolation #74) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:53 pm

In post 921, T3 wrote:Egix is, in effect confirmed scum neighborizer by the KA vote.

Explain this.

Titus · Post Post #930 (isolation #75) » Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:34 pm

In post 926, Rannygazoo wrote:Let’s let Egix address this before anyone else votes T3.

What can Egix say to address this short of claiming or refuting being a mason?

Titus · Post Post #980 (isolation #76) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:33 am

In post 957, Roden wrote:I'm going to town lock Titus if only because I don't think she'd used mental health reasons to try to win a scum game. I don't know her personally but that's just something I believe.

This is a poor reason to townread me. I do my best and don't dodge whether town or scum. I am not and would never use my mental health to try and win a game.

Titus · Post Post #981 (isolation #77) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:35 am

In post 966, Roden wrote:If scum is BP and I happened to target the one BP scum, then I'm either unlucky or seriously just that bad. But does BP scum make sense with only one Vig? Especially a one shot Vig? That just seems heavily loaded against town if you also add a Loyal Doctor. The chances of this combination of events is already extremely low, but would that actually be included in a set up at all?

Why not just a straight roleblocker on you?

Titus · Post Post #982 (isolation #78) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:36 am

In post 972, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 962, Rannygazoo wrote:if Almost50 replaced in with a clear head and read the game carefully
Does A50 reads games when replacing in? Mind you, he might have made an exception giving that he had to produce a night action.

Even I read on sub if I draw doctor, but I lie and say I didn't.

Titus · Post Post #983 (isolation #79) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:37 am

In post 975, T3 wrote:If I'm scum then why didn't my buddy claim cop?

That's a two for one.

Titus · Post Post #989 (isolation #80) » Thu Jun 24, 2021 5:51 am

In post 984, T3 wrote:True :/
So we have a
JOAT
Vig Masons
Vig Masons
And Neghborizer as the pr claims

Can we just hurry up and lim this? I'm tired of seeing this nonsense. Vigilante Masons would never be included as that would almost always make town more powerful than scum.

Titus · Post Post #1001 (isolation #81) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:13 am

In post 997, DrippingGoofball wrote:We know we are dealing with a scumteam that's good arms steering/herding the town into yeeting its own.

I'm not sure. Two of the three eliminations were town imploding.

Titus · Post Post #1003 (isolation #82) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:14 am

In post 1000, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I will reveal that I am a Town Mason with VFP, and with the added knowledge that Egix is probably town, that means that the scum can only be Titus, DGB, and Geraintm. All 3 of us have agreed to axe Geraintm today.

Yeah, I'm not at all suspicious of this. [/sarcasm]

Titus · Post Post #1005 (isolation #83) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:23 am

Even if you both are masons, dictating the elimination is just horsepucky, particularly when we haven't cleared Egix.

I am also townreading DGB.

Titus · Post Post #1006 (isolation #84) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:25 am

Jake, please unvote. I don't trust Egix and want more time to sort this.

Titus · Post Post #1007 (isolation #85) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:26 am

Neighbors and masons plus doctor plus joat is too much power.

Titus · Post Post #1011 (isolation #86) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:46 am

In post 1009, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1001, Titus wrote:
In post 997, DrippingGoofball wrote:We know we are dealing with a scumteam that's good arms steering/herding the town into yeeting its own.
I'm not sure. Two of the three eliminations were town imploding.
Not three out of three?

I feel KidAmn was rushed but not necessarily him imploding.

Titus · Post Post #1013 (isolation #87) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:53 am

In post 1012, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1011, Titus wrote:
In post 1009, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1001, Titus wrote:
In post 997, DrippingGoofball wrote:We know we are dealing with a scumteam that's good arms steering/herding the town into yeeting its own.
I'm not sure. Two of the three eliminations were town imploding.
Not three out of three?
I feel KidAmn was rushed but not necessarily him imploding.
The quickhammer from town!DGB doesn’t count as town imploding?

Fair enough. I was looking at just the targets.

Titus · Post Post #1016 (isolation #88) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:03 am

@Ranny, what if all 3 of them are just scum?

Titus · Post Post #1018 (isolation #89) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:21 am

In post 1017, Rannygazoo wrote:Scum probably doesn’t have day talk

Why would scum not have daytalk?

Titus · Post Post #1020 (isolation #90) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:33 am

In post 1019, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1, Umlaut wrote:No default daytalk or multitasking.
There could be an enabler, though. Trying to townslip?

Nope. I never read the rules. It's NAI for me.

Titus · Post Post #1024 (isolation #91) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:45 am

In post 1023, Egix96 wrote:
In post 999, Rannygazoo wrote:Part of me wants to
trust Roden’s mechanical clear of DGB
, and another part of me wants to yeet DGB for sabotaging town’s information in a way scum normally only wishes they could.
This and 1007 are the only reasons I'm not yet voting. Though to clarify, the power of my role lies in strongman-finding, not neighbour-making.

How does a neighborizer find a strongman?

Titus · Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:12 am

In post 1025, Egix96 wrote:What could have caused that?

My bet is it's related to VFP somehow.

Titus · Post Post #1032 (isolation #93) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:01 pm

VOTE: VFP

I don't see how 990 and vfp being a mason encryptor ever reconcile.

Titus · Post Post #1049 (isolation #94) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:42 pm

In post 1040, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1032, Titus wrote:VOTE: VFP

I don't see how 990 and vfp being a mason encryptor ever reconcile.
Can you explain?

VFP doubted masons with abilities existing but Jake is claiming VFP is a mason encryptor. Encryption apparently is an ability and not something that exists in every hood allegedly.

Titus · Post Post #1051 (isolation #95) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:13 pm

In post 1050, DrippingGoofball wrote:So the masons have daytalk only if VFP is alive.

If VFP dies, then Jake cannot daytalk with himself LOL.

Is that correct?

If also applied when VFP was recruited into Egix's hood supposedly but not before.

Titus · Post Post #1052 (isolation #96) » Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:15 pm

The problem I have is VFP doubted masons with abilities...yet he's claiming to be a mason with an ability.

Titus · Post Post #1063 (isolation #97) » Sun Jun 27, 2021 5:03 am

In post 1055, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1052, Titus wrote:The problem I have is VFP doubted masons with abilities...yet he's claiming to be a mason with an ability.
So he's scum.

Hence the vote.

Titus · Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:14 am

In post 1061, VFP wrote:
In post 1032, Titus wrote:VOTE: VFP

I don't see how 990 and vfp being a mason encryptor ever reconcile.
That's a passive not an ability.

Passive and active are two types of abilities.

Titus · Post Post #1087 (isolation #99) » Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:31 am

In post 1076, DrippingGoofball wrote:I am very much doubting the claims.

Me too. They logically don't make sense, yet I am getting SRed for it.

Titus · Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:20 am

I agree that Egix or the masons are scum. I actually think VFP and Jake agreed on a fakeclaim of masons and did crumbs that were so obscure they could back out later.

Titus · Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:10 am

In post 1102, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1101, Titus wrote:I actually think VFP and Jake agreed on a fakeclaim of masons and did crumbs that were so obscure they could back out later.
That's a point.

But maybe Egix needs to go first?

What I hate is how they just decided to "trust Egix" and this was unsupported, we're just supposed to take their word for it.

Why Egix first? If one of the "masons" flips scum, we get a two for one.

Titus · Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:36 pm

I don't feel as secure on Egix scum.

Also, I'm pretty sure geratim is locktown given both "masons" are voting there.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 2:15 am

In post 1111, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1109, Titus wrote:I don't feel as secure on Egix scum.

Also, I'm pretty sure geratim is locktown given both "masons" are voting there.
Wait, so who does this leave as the 3rd scum in your solve? I'm confirmed town by Roden, DBG is almost confirmed town...

I'm not solving the game today. I was a little early to call g locktown but he's highly likely town. I am going for the obvious scum and going forward from there. Egix can be scum but I am not as certain. That does not mean I TR Egix.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:04 am

In post 1123, geraintm wrote:
In post 1121, Titus wrote:
In post 1111, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 1109, Titus wrote:I don't feel as secure on Egix scum.

Also, I'm pretty sure geratim is locktown given both "masons" are voting there.
Wait, so who does this leave as the 3rd scum in your solve? I'm confirmed town by Roden, DBG is almost confirmed town...
I'm not solving the game today. I was a little early to call g locktown but he's highly likely town. I am going for the obvious scum and going forward from there. Egix can be scum but I am not as certain. That does not mean I TR Egix.
titus, as you have the vote on VFP i'd appreciate it if you could check my logic.

if you assume i am town

then VFP + Jake are scum, because otherwise scum would have joined the wagon to eliminate me

this is consistent with if you are town voting for VFP why scum have not joined the wagon on VFP to eliminate them for the win

the alternative is

I am scum
this means that Jake and VFP are both town.
this means that you have to be scum, because if you are town i would have joined your vote along with my two partners for the win.

i think there are some other scenarios where both VFP and Jake are scum and you are scum too and that is why none of the wagons have succeeded yet.

is the above making sense? where does my logic fall down?

The logic on if you're town is solid.

If you are scum, VFP and Jake do not have to be town. They could be bussing to set up a win.

The setup where I am scum with the masons is an outside possibility to anyone else in theory but should be excluded based on our interactions today.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:05 am

I don't agree with the three of you are scum theory due to play today but it is possible logically.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:08 am

In post 1130, Rannygazoo wrote:And then slip that VFP is an encryptor.

The problem I have with VFP being an encryptor isn't the truth of the matter. I buy he's an encryptor. I don't see the healthy logic on how masons have no abilities then claiming mason with an ability.

@geratim, There also may be a problem with scheduling for a quickhammer in all scenarios.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:26 am

I acknowledged that VFP. It's theoretically possible but it sounds like you're trying to keep me in the elimination pool after you flip scum.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:08 am

In post 1142, Rannygazoo wrote:VFP as mafia encryptor/Titus as strongman/Jake as goon is starting to look like how we win.

Then we have Egix check me. It will show me as not a strongman.

Let's just wrap this up.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 11:15 am

In post 1146, DrippingGoofball wrote:I really don't know what to think.

The scum is winning for a reason: they're good at it.

If you had to vote, who would it be for?

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:43 pm

In post 1164, Jake The Wolfie wrote:If the scum had a roleblocker, they could've just.. roleblocked CW.

Why would they have a roleblocker unless Egix is scum lying about being a strongman finder?

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:44 pm

In post 1159, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1158, Rannygazoo wrote:That’s what I said in 1153.

I hate this pressure late game. If I had been better early game (or bad enough to get miselimmed), we wouldn’t be in this mess.
Oh right.

I could see the masons being real and the neighborizer being scum due to the breadcrumb.

Did they BOTH breadcrumb?

Yes. They both did.

Titus · Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:47 pm

For the roleblocker to exist like you postulate for DGB scum, then Egix has to be lying.

So a DGB scumteam must include Egix

Titus · Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:13 am

I am not feeling well. I'll be on when I can.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:53 am

Well that's one way the day ends. We can eliminate Jake tomorrow and use the time to sort out the rest.

There is also a quickhammer Jake theory to stop scum from getting nk info.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:53 am

In post 1258, DrippingGoofball wrote:Fake fuckung masons I knew it

Yeah, it was obvious from the slip. Just wondered why you didn't vote.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:55 am

In post 1263, DrippingGoofball wrote:Have we not lost the game?

Is this serious right now?

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:00 am

In post 1265, DrippingGoofball wrote:Did Jake not claim scum by hammering his alleged mason partner?

They're both scum.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:00 am

In post 1266, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1262, Titus wrote:
In post 1258, DrippingGoofball wrote:Fake fuckung masons I knew it
Yeah, it was obvious from the slip. Just wondered why you didn't vote.
What slip

Masons with abilities
Mason claim in lylo
Too many abilities

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:01 am

In post 1267, Titus wrote:
In post 1265, DrippingGoofball wrote:Did Jake not claim scum by hammering his alleged mason partner?
They're both scum.

VFP self voted in lylo ffs

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:08 am

In post 1271, geraintm wrote:What is happening?

I'm just going to facepalm.

I'm glad there's two clears so I can win this game for us, since I am the only one who gets this.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:10 am

In post 1274, geraintm wrote:Like....indont know what is happening....

They were outed scum when Egix didn't hammer.

Ranny isn't scum.
DGB didn't hammer VFP.
Egix didn't hammer VFP.
Jake was claiming masons with VFP.

That left the two of them with a scum existing solely of me and geratim. That doesn't work.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:20 am

There's realistically only two scenarios in my mind at the moment.

I will say that Egix not checking me or Geratim is a scumclaim.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:21 am

That's noise. Ignore anything they say post hammer.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:22 am

Geratim, do you agree that Egix not checking us is a scumclaim?

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:28 am

I could just case Egix right now, but he's stuck proving he's scum anyway.

Titus · Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:36 am

Do people want me to wait or should I just case him now?

Titus · Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:11 pm

Egix, you and I both know your ability worked.

So you can confirm I'm not a strongwoman.

Titus · Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:19 pm

Interesting. I expected Egix to lie there. I had a whole case prepared in my notes PT with the assumption he would lie today.

Now, I am just going to sleep on things instead.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:57 am

In post 1307, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1301, Titus wrote:Interesting. I expected Egix to lie there. I had a whole case prepared in my notes PT with the assumption he would lie today.

Now, I am just going to sleep on things instead.
Can't Egix be scum anyway?

He can be but given he didn't lie, as I expected him to, he deserves a second look.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:01 am

In post 1304, geraintm wrote:Curious if anyone thinks yesterday could have happened if I was scum with jake and vfp?

I have three most likely scenarios

1) Egix is a scum and a strongman doesn't exist or he's it.
2) Geratim is the strongman.
3) DGB is scum and there's a roleblocker and not a strongman.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:05 am

Right now, I am questioning if a strongman exists at all.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:26 am

Here's my thinking.

1) Strongman and Roleblocker don't exist together.
Therefore, if DGB is scum (roleblock on Rodan required), then Egix's role is useless. The clear on DGB would be meaningless.

2) Jake is the strongman/roleblocker and Egix isn't a combined anything. After all, If Egix clears everyone of being a strongman, he can fall back on the fact a roleblocker exists in theory. (Egix could also be a multitasking split neighborizer and roleblocker/strongman but that's moonlogic as it would overload one slot when 99.9% of mods would divide it differently).

3) Geratim is the strongman/roleblocker.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:29 am

Also, voting anywhere but Jake today is a scumclaim. As the smart thing for Jake to do is to sheep any non Jake vote, leaving scum to hammer. Voting anyone else is a recipe for disaster. If no hammer comes, then a 1 v 1 is confirmed. But that risk isn't worth it when the same play can happen tomorrow with more information.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:31 am

In post 1303, geraintm wrote:Also, I've never entered a day before we a confirmed scum, this is really weird

A lylo with a confscum at that.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:22 am

In post 1316, geraintm wrote:I'm just planning on spending the rest of today to get everyone left to agree that the chances of me being scum are so tiny, that scum have to eliminate me tonight and then I won't be in the awkward vote tonorrow and someone else can work it out.

I don't think I can get there. There's a strict NKA that I have in my head based on who is scum, with only one overlap. Basically, if I know a kill on X happens, then Y is scum.

So unless someone engages my theories, I am better off keeping my mouth shut as to my reads.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:23 am

Well, there's a second overlap but that's if I die sooo

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 6:27 am

Going into my NKA ensures an overlap kill happens most likely (or a no kill if the overlap is scum). I'd rather force scum to guess and possibly out themselves.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:32 am

In post 1321, DrippingGoofball wrote:Egix was cornered into not lying, that's zero towncred from me.

I don't see how this is true.

If Egix lies about me being a strong woman, then it's just a 1 v 1 for us tomorrow. He could try to walk it back as a gambit though.

How was Egix cornered into not lying?

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 7:36 am

In post 1321, DrippingGoofball wrote:I can't shake off how odd it was for the fake masons to claim to have strongly trusted Egix, giving no evidence, and expecting us all to go along with it, feeling they could use their masoncred to push a fake masons/Egix townblock to POE all the actual townies.

This is an odd play, regardless of Egix's alignment. If Egix is town, they locked themselves into the townie they wanted to agency capture. If Egix was scum, they tried to brute force the game and hope that people would think Egix and geratim were scum I guess...

It's a baffling move.

I could see the masons trying to set up a double bus on geratim with Ranny dying and the "masons" in lylo with three town (me, you, Egix) but that's a bit far out too.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 10:17 am

@DGB, How is Egix confscum if he lied? There's no mechanical clear for me being a strongman (aside from Egix now).

He'd just set up a 1 v 1.

Or are you saying I'm that obvtown that you would not believe him?

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:42 pm

Ok. DGB, do you have any comment on my theories or anything else you wish to say?

I think I am done unless a new revelation comes out. If no one pushes the game forward in 48 hours, I'll vote.

I get the feeling scum have a plan here (night phase was too long) but I don't think we can mechanically outsmart them.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:44 pm

Agreed. At least he's a good sport about it.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:48 pm

In post 1328, DrippingGoofball wrote:He's that obvscum that I would not believe him, yes.

Why? His role is partially proven.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:51 pm

In post 1333, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 924, T3 wrote:
In post 923, Titus wrote:
In post 921, T3 wrote:Egix is, in effect confirmed scum neighborizer by the KA vote.
Explain this.
Masons + neighborizer who neighborized ka and then votes him.
Can we re-visit this? What does this mean with the additional information we have?

Well we know T3 was likely genuine in his suspicion of Egix. However, his suspicion appears to come from believing the masons no?

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:57 pm

In post 1338, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1324, Egix96 wrote:It's because Jake tried to use me as a pawn. They were probably hoping that I would just blindly trust the fake mason claim and snap vote as soon as the day opened.
I am taking this into consideration.

However geraintm is 100% not their partner, and is town. That's one thing we can count on.

So then I take it your order is

Egix

Me
Geratim

Right?

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:13 pm

In post 1341, DrippingGoofball wrote:What was Egix's role again, exactly?

Neighborizer plus alleged strongman detector.

I cannot be a strongwoman because Egix would have to be lying and there's not two scum.

So either

A) No strongman exists or B) Geratim is the strongman or C) Egix is a Split multitasking neighborizer strongman (absurd but theoretically possible, moonlogic).

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:19 pm

In post 1344, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1342, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I'm rereading the rules now to see if I can Bah post, and I wondered how I read the fine print. Seriously, it is soo small.
Your team can concede!

How are they supposed to vote on that? We hammered their encryptor. LOL.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:22 pm

In post 1346, DrippingGoofball wrote:What were all his night choices?

KidAmn
Jake
VFP
Me

I can read the entire hood. It's largely empty but for mason flail. There was some discussion about bringing me in sooner (instead of VFP) but apparently that got swung.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:37 pm

Jake, shouldn't you think I'm the commie? :-p

@DGB, I'm inclined to agree.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:38 pm

In post 1353, DrippingGoofball wrote:Egix neighborized both scums? Who were pretending to be masons?

I believe Egix is the last scum.

I think so too but I thought they'd put a modicum of theater into it.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:41 pm

There's enough in the hood though to colorably argue Egix is bad town though.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:44 pm

Yes. I'd say the post number but that quotes mod communications.

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 2:47 pm

Jake, what do I want from Door Dash?

Titus · Sun Jul 04, 2021 3:01 pm

In post 1361, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 1360, Titus wrote:Jake, what do I want from Door Dash?
Their cutest delivery boy

Thank God I am not with my boyfriend right now. That would be awkward. I just busted out laughing.

Titus · Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:41 am

VOTE: Jake

I hope Egix gets on before the mod to make it unanimous.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:33 am

I'm going to be busy with work for the next few hours, but here's where I stand theoretically. I have not assessed the likelihood of either given the Egix kill surprised me.

1) DGB is roleblocker and DGB killed Egix to hide the fact a roleblocker existed.

2) Geratim killed Egix because he's a strongman.

3) Geratim is a roleblocker who killed Egix to frame DGB. My gut says this is the least likely.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 6:59 am

In post 1376, DrippingGoofball wrote:I was neighborized.

Why? You had a zero percent chance of being a strongman after Jake's flip.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:03 am

In post 1381, DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't get why geraintm killed Egix. I was going to vote for Egix or Titus if I wasn't the NK. But now???

Even after Jake's flip? Egix would have to be a combined role which makes little sense if Jake's a goon.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:08 am

I would have considered Egix with that neighborhood move though.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:14 am

If Egix was scum, he would be forced to confirm no strongman (unless him) or get eliminated (check dgb) or lie and force a 1 v 1 with geratim. That's why that kill makes no sense.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:16 am

He would be suspect no matter his action

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:22 am

I'm leaning towards geratim but that's only gun to my head. I need to hear both of your statements. Dgb has the hammer, geratim has the wifom and Strongman to explain.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:26 am

In post 1377, DrippingGoofball wrote:It's got to be (2)

Why is there a roleblocker?

I will let geratim answer but i know how it can be true.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:29 am

I will look tonight for evidence of what his argument must be.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:16 am

Mechanically, how are you town geratim?

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:17 am

In post 1394, DrippingGoofball wrote:I have terrible news, I'm 100% not voting Titus, you know what to do, scum.

Then why haven't you voted?

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:30 am

In post 1403, geraintm wrote:Vote dgb

I'm not voting today. Dealing with work explosions.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:34 am

In post 1405, geraintm wrote:Mise well vote

Where'd you vote?

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:36 am

Not bolded or in tags. It doesn't count.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:46 am

VOTE: DGB

We should win with this.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:47 am

Dgb confess, you roleblocked Rodan and strongman was a red herring.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:48 am

Ranny had horrible reads. If he wasn't conftown, he would likely have been in lylo for the misvote.

No way geratim's scum. The frame was too perfect.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:56 am

DGB could not be strongman because she would have died to Rodan (doc is loyal). Killing Egix prevented us from knowing that a roleblocker was likely in the game.

It also stumps less mechanically sensitive players as to why they're still alive.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:28 am

You forgot my notes topic.

Gg all. It was fun. I was the scum roleblocker.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:43 am

In post 1427, Egix96 wrote:Good game, all! Killing me there was a really smart move, actually.

Killing you just came down to a common sense proposition.

I considered killing DGB or Geratim but I didn't think either were pocketed enough to believe you were a combined neighborizer and roleblocker or strongman.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:47 am

Also, I'm glad I baited Egix to "clear" me.

I think you're a wonderful human being too Ranny.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:49 am

In post 1428, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Good Job, Titus!

Sorry Mafia for not playing D4 better. I went in way too hard.

We should have abandoned the mason claim. It saves you at least.

However, it opened up an excellent opportunity to bus you for the slip everyone else denied.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am

@Egix, why in tarnations did you target DGB when mechanically she could not be a strongman?

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:38 am

Dgb will never trust me again.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:43 am

In post 1440, Roden wrote:Pretty sure it's because Geraint was basically confirmed town after Day 4. DGB, for all intents and purposes, was basically confirmed town yoo because of the Loyal Doc situation, but there was a chance I did get Roleblocked. Which was true, but DGB was still town anyway lol.

I actually want to know WHY Geraint still voted DGB when he didn't seem to believe I got Roleblocked.

We all had reasons to be conftown which is why I was surprised I had locktown reads from both town. DGB's was particularly surprising given 1338.

I had the bus. Geratim had the targeting. DGB had the roleblock.

I'm not sure how I got that quickhammer.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:45 am

I almost abandoned the bus on the slip when no one sheeped it even though it was really bad.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:49 am

It was my honor to hammer you DGB. There are certain players I know for years that makes it harder to miseliminate. You are one DGB. GG.

Sorry for keeping you in jail.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:49 am

In post 1447, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 1400, Titus wrote:
In post 1394, DrippingGoofball wrote:I have terrible news, I'm 100% not voting Titus, you know what to do, scum.
Then why haven't you voted?
I was considering that there may not have been a strongman because of the new site meta of mod screwing the town with misleading roles.

I kinda figured this and planned to turn it on you if you went that way.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 11:54 am

In post 1451, DrippingGoofball wrote:In 100% of games lately the setups have roles that deliberately mislead the town, such that ROLES ARE USELESS.

Worse than useless.

This is fair as it "cleared" me.

I'm sure the mod team will comment on balance.

Titus · Tue Jul 06, 2021 2:19 pm

In post 1457, Rannygazoo wrote:There’s no way anyone can predict this at the time of setup, but due to poor communication from the doctor’s slot, it really did look like there was a strongman. It wasn’t just trying to outguess the mod.

To be fair, I did all I could to highlight strongman wasn't confirmed without being anti-scum. I wanted DGB in the scumpool so there was a bit of self interest.

Titus · Wed Jul 07, 2021 2:52 am

Two 200IQ strats. I still could have argued you were split but you died because that was a stretch, you were the least pocketed, and I could spin why either killed you.

Titus · Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:44 pm

In post 1469, Jessica Rabbit wrote:I forgot about this game and my reads were obviously bad.

If scum is still reading this, why was I the N1 kill because you all thought cw would confitown me?

No one had good reads. No one wanted to eliminate you though. You died because of being obvtown.

We didn't need to protect ourselves because town was guarding us from suspicion. We just needed to have no safe voice to turn things around.

Titus · Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:03 am

In post 1471, T3 wrote:I will never understand my own gambit.

I'd nominate it for Kodak moment but I figured that might be insulting.

Titus · Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:53 pm

In post 1476, Roden wrote:I think it could've worked out if you didn't give yourself a time limit, I was willing to defend you right up until time ran out for the claim confirm. In hindsight, I really should've Gunsmith checked you Night 1.

Then you would have tunneled Ranny, giving us a flip there.

Titus · Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:31 pm

In post 1484, Roden wrote:
In post 1478, Titus wrote:
In post 1476, Roden wrote:I think it could've worked out if you didn't give yourself a time limit, I was willing to defend you right up until time ran out for the claim confirm. In hindsight, I really should've Gunsmith checked you Night 1.
Then you would have tunneled Ranny, giving us a flip there.
That's definitely a possibility. Thinking on it, it just means T3 is the confirmed townie at Day 4 ELo instead of Ranny. I might've even successfully shot DGB too, since I apparently softed Cop Day 2 which probably doesn't then happen and I'm less likely to get RB'd. Kinda wish I hadn't gotten JOAT lol, someone with more experience probably would've used it better, but it was still a good learning experience regardless.

Experience is a double edged sword. A blank slate can read things others can't. You aimed a shot at a slot that should never live until elo. It did and town lost. Clearing Ranny was smart but town rarely listen to the dead.