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Post Post #3550 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:27 pm

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Yo morph like i get it you have lines of questioning you want to do but this isn't a 1v6 with x NPCs. People have just as much right to post in the thread and talk as you do.

This is beginning to feel very much like playing pandemic and one player keeps trying to take everyone's turns for them and it's annoying the crap out of me.

This is a coop not a two player.
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Post Post #3551 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:27 pm

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Also I don't get how both Titus and Arte can be town if an illusion was targetted next to a real player and they got yes?

like that makes no sense
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Post Post #3552 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:28 pm

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We'll step back then, fine, whatever.

People don't ATUALLY want another xenoblade cabd when they have to live with him in the moment.

They just want the end results :/
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Post Post #3553 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:29 pm

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Nah, Morph has a right to getting annoyed when I step on their toes.

You don't have to step back, I'll lay off for now.
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Post Post #3554 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:30 pm

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I want you to play but i want that to happen without you snapping at anyone who posts something when you don't want them to and that is more important than who wins or loses honestly.
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Post Post #3555 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:31 pm

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In post 3551, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also I don't get how both Titus and Arte can be town if an illusion was targetted next to a real player and they got yes?

like that makes no sense
It’s basically based on the illusions alignment, if we killed it what does it flip? Either way it hurts town but would he count it as a town flip?
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Post Post #3556 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:33 pm

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In post 3555, notscience wrote:
In post 3551, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also I don't get how both Titus and Arte can be town if an illusion was targetted next to a real player and they got yes?

like that makes no sense
It’s basically based on the illusions alignment, if we killed it what does it flip? Either way it hurts town but would he count it as a town flip?
I have to imagine no, right?

Like I have to imagine it wouldn't flip at all. It doesn't have a role. It's a mirage, according to what I read from a mod edit.
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Post Post #3557 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:34 pm

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I would assume the alignment is the same alignment as the the player who cast it, and that looks to be Anya. Yeah?
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Post Post #3558 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:34 pm

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In post 3552, morph the cat wrote:We'll step back then, fine, whatever.

People don't ATUALLY want another xenoblade cabd when they have to live with him in the moment.

They just want the end results :/
Except I'm 1-0 this game.

And I feel very on fire.

So this sudden burst of "ME CONTROL ME TOWNIE TOWN CENTER AROUND ME"

right after I just did a BoP test and fucking spiked it?

Reads like trying to ensure social control remains in your hands and not mine.

And I scumread that from you today.
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Post Post #3559 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 3429, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3422, Artemiana wrote:I choose a person with my active skill and am told if we share an alignment.

Not sure how much further I can go without stating ver batum
Okay. The wording of that is odd. Why would it say "compares to your own alignment" instead of "tells you their alignment"?

I'm confused. Help me square this circle.
Gives two targets for a potential framer?

i.e. a framer could target Artemiana and mess up their result
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Post Post #3560 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:35 pm

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To be fair, I have never been in a game where LLD didn't whiff on the second elimination. :P
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Post Post #3561 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:36 pm

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In post 3557, Bell wrote:I would assume the alignment is the same alignment as the the player who cast it, and that looks to be Anya. Yeah?
Yup. So scum?

Then Titus is scum, if that's the case.

And if it's null? Then Arte is scum for lying.

But there's no case that N_M shows up as a townie right? Either he's a mirage and the answer should have been NO.

or he's not and reads as scum, and then we have a guilty situation where one of them is scum anyway.

that's how I read this
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Post Post #3562 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:36 pm

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All the speculation about what could have happened when there's 3000 abilities in the game seems less than useless.
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Post Post #3563 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:36 pm

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In post 3561, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3557, Bell wrote:I would assume the alignment is the same alignment as the the player who cast it, and that looks to be Anya. Yeah?
Yup. So scum?

Then Titus is scum, if that's the case.

And if it's null? Then Arte is scum for lying.

But there's no case that N_M shows up as a townie right? Either he's a mirage and the answer should have been NO.

or he's not and reads as scum, and then we have a guilty situation where one of them is scum anyway.

that's how I read this
I think so, yeah.
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Post Post #3564 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:37 pm

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In post 3559, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3429, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3422, Artemiana wrote:I choose a person with my active skill and am told if we share an alignment.

Not sure how much further I can go without stating ver batum
Okay. The wording of that is odd. Why would it say "compares to your own alignment" instead of "tells you their alignment"?

I'm confused. Help me square this circle.
Gives two targets for a potential framer?

i.e. a framer could target Artemiana and mess up their result
Framer would need to target Titus, because targeting N_M produces the same problem.

Is any framer targetting Titus after yesterday?

Does Framer even make sense in this setup? Maybe?

It feels very loose to be possible.
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Post Post #3565 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:37 pm

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Like we either take it at face value or we say it means nothing and ignore it. Doing anything in between where we try to piece together plausible scenarios for how it could have been messed with seem negative utility to me.
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Post Post #3566 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:38 pm

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LLD actions aside what did you think when reviewing the interaction post gambit reveal
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Post Post #3567 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:39 pm

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In post 3560, Bell wrote:To be fair, I have never been in a game where LLD didn't whiff on the second elimination. :P
How many games is that, one? lol
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Post Post #3568 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:39 pm

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In post 3566, notscience wrote:LLD actions aside what did you think when reviewing the interaction post gambit reveal
Wait what was I meant to read?

Titus and Morph?

sorry I got sidetracked by this claim nonsense
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Post Post #3569 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:39 pm

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5 or 6. I think.
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Post Post #3570 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:39 pm

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I need to step back from the game and think about things, given that I have many conflicting thoughts atm. I will be reading along, just probably not quite so active the next few days.
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Post Post #3571 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:40 pm

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Yes

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Post Post #3572 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 3569, Bell wrote:5 or 6. I think.
There's no way that's accurate.

There's no way I've been right as town 5-6 times on day one and then whiffed the day 2 every time.
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Post Post #3573 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:40 pm

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In post 3571, notscience wrote:Yes

Them and you at the end of the day
and me?

You want me to read... me? Isn't that kind of.... I have perspective bias. I don't know what you're looking for there
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Post Post #3574 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 2:41 pm

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I mean their interaction with you
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