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Post Post #3625 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:55 pm

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In post 3614, Brave Heart Lion wrote:Morph, Bingle, Shea, LLD, Bell, Guillo

If each of you had my rolecard how would each of you use tonight
I've already said I do not believe in directing PRs
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Post Post #3626 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:56 pm

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I don't believe town saps SP from someone on N0 without considering that the target may be a protective/cop that will need the SP later to perform their action. I'm a wild card, a loose cannon and even I wouldn't do any N0 actions as town, the fact that you claim that you did looked questionable to me.
And then, your "Conflict Words" claim, you said that you could self target and then you backtracked... I don't trust you.
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Post Post #3627 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:57 pm

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In post 3626, Guillotina wrote:I don't believe town saps SP from someone on N0 without considering that the target may be a protective/cop that will need the SP later to perform their action. I'm a wild card, a loose cannon and even I wouldn't do any N0 actions as town, the fact that you claim that you did looked questionable to me.
And then, your "Conflict Words" claim, you said that you could self target and then you backtracked... I don't trust you.
The only N0 actions I would do as town are investigation actions.
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Post Post #3628 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:57 pm

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In post 3615, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2943, morph the cat wrote:What is used may never again be consumed.

VOTE: Anya
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Yeah, right after I came in and demanded it.

I dunno. They probably shouldn't be on the table today in terms of death but I gotta sort them sooner rather than later so.
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Post Post #3629 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:58 pm

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In post 3627, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3626, Guillotina wrote:I don't believe town saps SP from someone on N0 without considering that the target may be a protective/cop that will need the SP later to perform their action. I'm a wild card, a loose cannon and even I wouldn't do any N0 actions as town, the fact that you claim that you did looked questionable to me.
And then, your "Conflict Words" claim, you said that you could self target and then you backtracked... I don't trust you.
The only N0 actions I would do as town are investigation actions.
Okay, so let me play devil's advocate.

What if the SP ability costs something like 4SP to use

and what if you start with 2 and gain one in a phase

so you'd go into night with 3?

So what if Stealing N0 was the only way to get your cop result on the first night, would you steal then?
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Post Post #3630 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:58 pm

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Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
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Post Post #3631 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:59 pm

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I mean half my claim is already proven to be true

I mean ymmv I guess

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I mean, it'll be up to me on how I'll interpret the information I asked for but jusr because one person told me to use it in this onr way doesmt mean I am going to do it.
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Post Post #3632 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:59 pm

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Like I'm not saying I believe Arte's claim, but the SP steal mechanic has been proven and the reason for doing it was as I understand it semi personal vendetta but I also think if a cop ability costs SP, you wanna fuel it right?

IDK, that's not the part of the claim that concerns me Guil
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Post Post #3633 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:59 pm

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Also i should be obv town now so whoever povs me you're wrong
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Post Post #3634 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:00 pm

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In post 3624, Artemiana wrote:You didn't believe me in bears either, but it doesn't even matter.

You don't have to believe the role to say how you would use it
Well petition denied because I see how this question could be used as a role fish tool, if you are scum.
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Post Post #3635 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:00 pm

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In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
Uhhh

No one visited them and they submitted an action but it was unsuccessful?

Maybe?

IDFK that is some cryptic shit
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Post Post #3636 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:00 pm

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In post 3632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like I'm not saying I believe Arte's claim, but the SP steal mechanic has been proven and the reason for doing it was as I understand it semi personal vendetta but I also think if a cop ability costs SP, you wanna fuel it right?

IDK, that's not the part of the claim that concerns me Guil
How was the SP steal proven?
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Post Post #3637 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:01 pm

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In post 3636, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like I'm not saying I believe Arte's claim, but the SP steal mechanic has been proven and the reason for doing it was as I understand it semi personal vendetta but I also think if a cop ability costs SP, you wanna fuel it right?

IDK, that's not the part of the claim that concerns me Guil
How was the SP steal proven?
Morph claimed it happened to them, and without claiming the exact result, Arte claimed what was done and then Morph confirmed that was what happened.

It's a confirmed ability, minus the 2 of them being scum together, which is already a possibility that doesn't need that gambit to be true.

Like...

It's worth acting as if it's proven because it basically is.
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Post Post #3638 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:03 pm

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In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
You should have seen if someone visited him?
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Post Post #3639 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:05 pm

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My best guess is you are a follower but your target was targeted by another but you couldn't see who
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Post Post #3640 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:07 pm

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Post Post #3641 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:10 pm

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In post 3637, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3636, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3632, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like I'm not saying I believe Arte's claim, but the SP steal mechanic has been proven and the reason for doing it was as I understand it semi personal vendetta but I also think if a cop ability costs SP, you wanna fuel it right?

IDK, that's not the part of the claim that concerns me Guil
How was the SP steal proven?
Morph claimed it happened to them, and without claiming the exact result, Arte claimed what was done and then Morph confirmed that was what happened.

It's a confirmed ability, minus the 2 of them being scum together, which is already a possibility that doesn't need that gambit to be true.

Like...

It's worth acting as if it's proven because it basically is.
I don't know. I'm perplexed... for now I'm not entertaining Artemiana's exercise
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Post Post #3642 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:16 pm

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In post 3629, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3627, Guillotina wrote:
In post 3626, Guillotina wrote:I don't believe town saps SP from someone on N0 without considering that the target may be a protective/cop that will need the SP later to perform their action. I'm a wild card, a loose cannon and even I wouldn't do any N0 actions as town, the fact that you claim that you did looked questionable to me.
And then, your "Conflict Words" claim, you said that you could self target and then you backtracked... I don't trust you.
The only N0 actions I would do as town are investigation actions.
Okay, so let me play devil's advocate.

What if the SP ability costs something like 4SP to use

and what if you start with 2 and gain one in a phase

so you'd go into night with 3?

So what if Stealing N0 was the only way to get your cop result on the first night, would you steal then?
I wouldnt steal SP from anyone for any reason as town on N0.
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Post Post #3643 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:17 pm

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In post 3626, Guillotina wrote:I don't believe town saps SP from someone on N0 without considering that the target may be a protective/cop that will need the SP later to perform their action. I'm a wild card, a loose cannon and even I wouldn't do any N0 actions as town, the fact that you claim that you did looked questionable to me.
And then, your "Conflict Words" claim, you said that you could self target and then you backtracked... I don't trust you.
For sure, it might be anti-town to steal SP from someone... but it seems weird to say that you shouldn't steal SP because then a cop
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not be able to use their power, when you know that if you don't, a cop
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won't be able to use their power.

All things considered, I feel pretty good about Artemiana.
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Post Post #3644 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:19 pm

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In post 3638, morph the cat wrote:
In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
You should have seen if someone visited him?
No I dont see who visited them. Thhats not apart of the ability
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Post Post #3645 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:19 pm

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In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
Really no clue. Did unwnd tell you what form your results might take? Or are they keeping you completely in the dark?
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Post Post #3646 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:20 pm

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In post 3635, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
Uhhh

No one visited them and they submitted an action but it was unsuccessful?

Maybe?

IDFK that is some cryptic shit
Thats why I think scum has a roleblocker? Thats all I could get out of it is that he was roleblocked.
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Post Post #3647 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:21 pm

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In post 3645, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3630, WhemeStar wrote:Okay so my innate ability allows me to see stuff that may have happened to my target.

I target sigmund last night

I got - Alone but troubled. The scenery is filled with clouds. He tries his best, but his best was not needed.

ANYONE WANNA HELP TELL ME WTF THIS MEANS
Really no clue. Did unwnd tell you what form your results might take? Or are they keeping you completely in the dark?
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Post Post #3648 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:21 pm

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The thing that gets me about my role pm is the may part which is like are all my results a 50/50 on if something happened or not
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Post Post #3649 (ISO) » Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:23 pm

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So I feel like the ability is kind of useless which is why its free but idk maybe i am missing something obvious
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