Open 810 | Aliensitter Needed! | Mafia wins

[Ydrasse]

pog

[Ydrasse]

yes sisters!

i’m at work atm so have minimal expectations until tonight

[Ydrasse]

okay well i wasn’t expecting so much homework, but

why ask for me to react to being paired to you?

[Ydrasse]

like what sort of reaction do i give as either alignment other as “wrong” or “‘nope not a thing at all” in that situation?

i don’t know what answer you’d expect and it feels uhhh. kinda weird in how it’s worded

[Ydrasse]

like maybe because it’s super specific and related to you (and implicitly you’re being accused in that too) so it’s like, “go look at these people accusing us! they’re so wrong right and i’m right”

that’s my instinctual reply but i’ll read it later but. weirdchamp

[Ydrasse]

also looking at the vc, why would i wanna skip d3 when i’m catching up? there’s people voting despite a no elim going through which is like. there are definitely things to be gained from seeing who wants to kill vs skip especially if it’s like, the mechanically ~rigjt~ decision

[Ydrasse]

Now Bingle, got any other early reads?

Mena slightly scummy, pooky low priority, your slot has tells but I need to wait for the psych evaluation result to determine if they’re scummy or towny. Dann strongest townread. I’d be voting lukewarm if I weren’t voting gypyx, but I think the gypyx wagon is more likely to be spicy atm.

You?

I liked the way Mena went about my slot when they voted me. It doesn’t seem to be “faked” per say. So I would slightly TR Mena there.

I personally like the way VFP has handled the thread. Not much content but it felt genuine. More of a gut read then anything but I trust it at least for now.

T3’s entrance wasn’t entirely bad but it was definitely not a great entrance. I’ll probably watch this slot and it’s progression towards Pooky.

As for Pooky themselves, well. I’m not really sure where to put them. From the majority of what I seen, their agenda is just Sheeping Mena.

I think your first big post (the one with the Psyc Check thing) felt towny. I want to vote with you for now and see where it goes and see further progression towards your slot.

As for Gypyx, I don’t know.
His first post seemed like jealous of me taken his spotlight.
His other posts haven’t really done much.
I believe 3 were Filler and the other was a turn down towards your Psych Plan Bingle. (If I remember correctly.)

okay i know that i have foresight to know this flips scum but holy fuck this post is bad i’m literally cackling at work

[Ydrasse]

@mena why do your associations with professor um. well. *smiles at you*

[Ydrasse]

okay break over wall will be read later

[Ydrasse]

Open 810 Official Vote Count - 4.3

T3

(2): GrandpaMo, Menalque

Menalque

(1): T3

GrandpaMo

(1): Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(3): PookyTheMagicalBear, Gypyx, Bingle

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to make someone drink energy core liquid.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-06-01 15:00:00)

from d1 i have 1 of t3/grandpa as scum + a tinfoil reason to think mena is scum so this vc is very funny

it could also be t3 and grandpa together too.

bus route crowded today

[Ydrasse]

nm + pooky are town

[Ydrasse]

the tinfoil is that mena was voting a townie who was competing w a scum wagon but when nm reps in he’s basically forced to change his vote because he’s at the time pushing nm as a policy in perpetual mylo and while people aren’t supposed to use ongoing games they do and it’s a balancing act especially with people who are also in those games. so he’s basically forced to abandon what he wants to do to keep up that charade

[Ydrasse]

yes you are

[Ydrasse]

also though drapion isn’t a newbie they don’t seem very confident as scum since their reads were waffley and it makes it less likely that they were able to make someone who’s town look like their partner

[Ydrasse]

d2/d3 reads Later

[Ydrasse]

Who is it not

Pooky + anyone

Bingle + mo

NM + mo
T3 + mo probably

Bingle + gypyx prob
Bingle + T3 prob

Who could it be

T3 + gypyx
T3 + bingle
T3 + NM

Bingle + NM

NM + gypyx

would someone be able to give me reasons why these aren’t possible ty

[Ydrasse]

i feel like my read on mena is probably not all there yet because it isn’t based on what he’s said so much as everything happening around him. i also don’t want him to be scum

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: t3

e-1, leaving on this note

[Ydrasse]

I think I like the content coming out from mena. I'm honestly not sure.

The main reason I townread gypyx is because of the early day 1 lolpush on Drap.

I skimmed through Gypyxs ISO in electocollege mafia and this is a hard VOTE: gypyx

lol

[Ydrasse]

i knew i could tempt you cowman

[Ydrasse]

when this flips scum i’m going to look so cute and sexy in front of everyone for repping in and solving the game

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse paragon
ydrasse 100% read rates
ydrasse best player on mafiascum
ydrasse top tier

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse never scum
ydrasse no longer needs cat gif

[Ydrasse]

yes it’s the only cure i could find

[Ydrasse]

i need you to carry me when i’m scum you’re so strong and good at it

[Ydrasse]

you’re caught in 4k!!!

[Ydrasse]

i’m not letting you ever beat me in endgame again

[Ydrasse]

i can’t believe you’re so unhappy that i’m in a game and i’m so unreadable !!!

he doesn’t tell me his alts so i have no clue

[Ydrasse]

i can’t believe menalque hates me now

[Ydrasse]

i’m at my desk at work and all my content was coming from me on my break chill

[Ydrasse]

i only have time to meme now my brains shut off

[Ydrasse]

if mena towm grandpa bus

i cover bases for 100% readrate win

[Ydrasse]

Guys i think grandpa wants to kill me

[Ydrasse]

Help

[Ydrasse]

?????????????

[Ydrasse]

i don’t even charge my phone you know this

[Ydrasse]

soul reading me in real time and claims i can’t be read

??

[Ydrasse]

I’m shaking from caffeine btw so i feel insane

[Ydrasse]

hit me

[Ydrasse]

flashing gif answer

Spoiler:

[Ydrasse]

500 word written essay solve when i need the equivalent of two tweets to nail the team

[Ydrasse]

i’m gonna be real it wasn’t obvious because i’m dumb as bricks

[Ydrasse]

hmmmm

[Ydrasse]

I am attempting to perform what the french would call either une vibe check or un vibe check depending on whether l’academie francaise thinks the pronunciation should be altered or not from the english

shut the fuck up LMAO

[Ydrasse]

grandpa how does that imply i knew and wasn’t just to tell u i was busy

[Ydrasse]

i’ll townlock you

[Ydrasse]

the chance to bully my friends for speaking french? priceless

[Ydrasse]

grandpa pls i acknowledged you wanted me to answer something not what it is

[Ydrasse]

how were u supposed to know that i knew specifically and was thinking about it when i’m posting memes

[Ydrasse]

so, first off. sorry for being a fucking idiot.

unsure what gypyx was doing but i don't think i've played around you; it was like, directly with you when we were posting end of day + speculation about professor's interactions around you feeling very stilted

i've been busy and didn't do a lot of catching up but i'm interested in what grandpa has to say. their eod towards me felt very uncharitable which like, i get i was a sub in and you want my thoughts but it seems really dumb given that i'm not gonna be killed there? like i guess if t3 flipped scum you could squint and worry about it (and grandpa was very sure about it which. lol) but otherwise they felt very snippy with me for not answering something small and basically just missing the whole point.

i'm still solid on n_m town. bingle is defaulting to town just because i have more reason to scumread grandpa/mena right now but i need to read there to be sure that i'm not screwing up round 2

[Ydrasse]

okay that goes two ways though? you should know that i don't join the game and approach that day/getting t3 elimmed like that as scum given my approach/mentality about scum.

like to me you coming in and saying "i want to vote ydrasse" is like... ignoring what you know about me as a player which is ??

[Ydrasse]

if i'm being honest despite us talking about it i'm still not quite sure how this... isn't how you approach lylo? what would you have done differently?

[Ydrasse]

if i'm being honest despite us talking about it i'm still not quite sure how this... isn't how you approach lylo? what would you have done differently?

[Ydrasse]

we both know i don't like doing things that have /consequences/ when i'm playing scum and i'm going to go out on a limb here and say me joining into a game and like, almost immediately getting someone miselimmed and then making an ass of myself because i thought i had come in and solved the game is like the antithesis of what i'd do (read: pocket you/pooky/bingle?)

arguably you could say i ~tried to pocket you~ but you're smarter than that

[Ydrasse]

it's similar in function (i drop a vote that gets a town killed) but different in motivation and timing, as well as how we were positioned that game vs here

[Ydrasse]

e___e i don't know if you could just hardpush me though frankly because i would very much not put up with it lol

it's hard for me to just say "i'm clearly trying to solve" from you as something i should townread because you... can do that as town too imo?

[Ydrasse]

i'll do my due diligence and at least read the contents of /how/ you were solving though which is a lot more useful than a post count to me

[Ydrasse]

i'll do my due diligence and at least read the contents of /how/ you were solving though which is a lot more useful than a post count to me

[Ydrasse]

i feel like an ass honestly because seeing his progression and throwing the vote down on me compared to what i'd read of vcs + d1 and part of yesterday felt really scummy to me and i was like, "oh i have good reads i can do this!"

and okay we both know i'm dumb but do you think i'm dumb enough to get advice from you and go into a game and do it in the very next game we're in while you're town LOL

[Ydrasse]

like yes, this is what ydrasse wants to do, she wants to fight someone who is keenly aware of how she approaches scum right after they spoke about it and knowing that this person will 1v1 to the death

[Ydrasse]

it meant "i cannot just at facevalue take you trying to solve as something that's towny because scum you could fake that i think and i want to look at how you progressed through it to see if it's ""good faith"""

[Ydrasse]

do you genuinely think that i would think you're someone that won't be listened to or easy to miselim? (in theory i guess "viable" isn't the same as easy but given i don't have a lot of momentum as scum they're two things that go hand in hand for me, and i very much would not come into a game as scum like, off the bat trying to pick at you)

and you're ignoring the point, you gave me that advice, /but do you think i put it into use against you/

knowing that we could also have this same exact conversation in front of everyone?

[Ydrasse]

(sidenote, i know we're being serious, BUT.)

Spoiler:

[Ydrasse]

to me it just boils down to like... internally, i know that i do not do this as scum despite your advice, /because/ you are the person who gave the advice. it is good advice i would use, but not in the context of joining a game when and where i did and positioning myself against you who has this knowledge. and i don't have a way to communicate that to you because it depends entirely on like, me knowing how i act/behave and knowing my alignment.

[Ydrasse]

(and i also don't want to fight you/get you elimmed as either alignment, you're right, which very much sucks if you are scum because i have to.)

[Ydrasse]

that being said i'm not sure that you are scum but i've given my reasons thus far.

what are you thinking about bingle?

[Ydrasse]

i mean yeah, we're basically at a mutual point where we're saying things about ourselves like "this is why we aren't scum" and it's gonna feel like wifom to each other where we'll disagree and go "nope this could be a lie" to the other but i think it's probably best interests for me to express that viewpoint because i just don't know how else to, lol

why is it weird that bingle thinks you're town when like, from your pov you putting in all that effort and trying to solve yesterday is a +town thing for you? like, realistically i get re-evaluating but doing a 180 flip doesn't seem like... i don't know how to explain this. it comes across as opportunistic for you to do, maybe? at least the read on me, and i guess it inherently means you're positioning yourself with grandpa/nm?

(which i don't like for the former, and i hope the latter can give his wise words of wisdom.)

actually can you also explain what you're thinking about the other two?

[Ydrasse]

the logical trail i follow w saying that is your options were open until it was necessary to close them in a bit on what was easier to do? but i get your point

i'm reserving judgement on the bingle thing until i read it which is probably not right now >_>

p-edit: i wanted some quick thoughts on their alignments from your pov not an opt out ;_;

[Ydrasse]

what happens if i vote u rn

[Ydrasse]

have you no humor today

[Ydrasse]

okay i don't have enough brainpower right now and i snorted far too hard at that dumb fucking joke

okay team will reconvene later / tomorrow ? given that i do not think i will be sober enough to read this game tonight

[Ydrasse]

or if i get bored of pretending to work

[Ydrasse]

the wesley snipes meme hit different, they're never gonna think we're aligned after that one

[Ydrasse]

when u manage to get your scum-wim back and 1v1 me and i eventually get all sad when im voted out no one will think u would drive me to be that upset

[Ydrasse]

Okay I think these are the only pairs I can really see.

Mena + Ydrasse

Bingle + NM

we did it team

[Ydrasse]

Okay I think these are the only pairs I can really see.

Mena + Ydrasse

Bingle + NM

we did it team

[Ydrasse]

im really only in the mood for marathon games atm, after it wraps up ill be back to normal games

[Ydrasse]

ngl im just giving scum a headstart trying to push me before i come back and eviscerate them

[Ydrasse]

playing league confirm etc etc

[Ydrasse]

shhhh

[Ydrasse]

yeah im here.

[Ydrasse]

@mo you're confirmed scum because 4 other people have been active within the same period of time and have had the ability to quickhammer you; because of this, if you were town you would know that it would be 1 of n_m and someone else, thus meaning you should always be voting nm if youre town because he's confirmed to you

[Ydrasse]

he's tactically avoiding the thread because he's my partner

p-edit: yeah probably, atp youre town for whatever the hell is happenign today

[Ydrasse]

no content tonight, probably tomorrow,

[Ydrasse]

ideal world i get nked but this is not a perfect world rn because dont want to solve in case wrong on nm being town

[Ydrasse]

*hugs*

simplest answer feels like nm doesnt push the way he does as scum, dont know if he would bus like that

[Ydrasse]

seems convoluted answer to get to

[Ydrasse]

thank god im finally having my hand held through these games like it's baby's first forum maf this is the experience i need in life

[Ydrasse]

idk, whats the merit of trying to solve nm/bingle with time left

if we cant come to decision i think simplest answer is just vote mo today and use more time tomorrow, feel like combination of nm's early game + being that clairvoyant as to your intentions is a big stretch? it feels like youre trying too many pieces in the puzzle that dont quite fit

[Ydrasse]

i meant solve like actually vote there but feels risky

[Ydrasse]

once you started trying to force us all to take hammertesting 101 you were town imo

same thing was used by town in other game that i played and it worked p well so if youre scum using this to make me trust you and then like, kill off mo bc of it or something / bus hard. just lol at that.

[Ydrasse]

lets fucking gooo

against my better judgment ive started drinking so hopefully i can stay coherent

idk why im posting rn i very much did not intend to but uh, having fun is cool

[Ydrasse]

vibe check

[Ydrasse]

Well, town probably loses now. Stupid randing scum in SH.

eh?

I just randed scum against you in SH, and that's gonna make you want to hero win against me despite that I'm crazy town.

I actually haven't been paying attention here. can someone give me a tldr?

professor menalque teaches us how quickhammers work and why mo is scum

[Ydrasse]

me too

[Ydrasse]

I want to solve while I'm still alive

I think there's reasonable odds that the remaining scum kills you but I also think there's a good chance they kill me

therefore I'd like to be as close to sure on the team as I can be to issue as strong a case for you to follow on whoever's left tomorrow in the event that I die

^ this is why i havent hammered

[Ydrasse]

i home later

[Ydrasse]

hewwo?

[Ydrasse]

that's quitter's talk

i had an idle thought earlier that nm's decisions (push scum get out scum) felt towny when i read them upon joining the game but with mo having the most awkward pivot on the world onto him + not realizing that he like, was in a position where he had to vote nm for because they were 100% at odds i don't know if i should go back and reconsider if the pushes were just buses. that's for tomorrow though.

[Ydrasse]

am at work will try to post a bit at some point today before i’m gone for the weekend

[Ydrasse]

vla until 7th

[Ydrasse]

yeah i’ll be able to but i really want mena to like... come talk about things, i feel like i’m in stasis and i wanna bounce ideas around w him

[Ydrasse]

I think maybe I want ydra to vote for N_M and then I can choose who to hammer in the morning

VOTE: not_mafia

final thoughts when you hammer please

[Ydrasse]

@mena i'll trust w/e choice you make if i have to go to e3 and decide it because at this point i dont know who it is, i feel like bingle is putting up a hell of a fight if he is scum, i feel like voting mo is the "safe" choice imo but it also feels like it's a matter of choosing if we lose today or tomorrow because i'm scared that we won't get whoever the last scum is between bingle/nm so if you wanna bite the bullet today and go for it you have my blessing

[Ydrasse]

BLESS YOU

[Ydrasse]

bingle if you're fucking with me i'll kill you

[Ydrasse]

i'm willing to bet the game on it, i came into this day being very ? at him but boxing himself in with the hammer testing would be suicidal, and him being like /happy/ to have someone he could trust instead of having to fret felt real and not like it was just to get me on his side

[Ydrasse]

poggers

[Ydrasse]

[Ydrasse]

i genuinely have no clue what was going on during the hammer testing.

[Ydrasse]

i honestly think he would have voted me before that stuff because he was entirely correct. i took the advice he gave me for playing scum while we hydra'd and then i tried to go "ohhh nooo i wouldn't do that" when he knows that's like... exactly what i'm trying to do now. if the hammer thing hadn't happened this was a loss i think?

(@mena i am so sorry you had me dead to rights like, as soon as this dayphase started)

[Ydrasse]

voting patterns are wild

i actually don't know if there was a chance in there to hammer someone that i missed, i should check

[Ydrasse]

shout out to mo for trying his hardest with the posting

[Ydrasse]

luke, don't post please!! <3 (the game's technically over but it's a courtesy thing :3)

[Ydrasse]

gg everyone! fun game

[Ydrasse]

Mena never considered you and mo.

I actually did realise this after the fact but didn’t mention for a couple of reasons

(1) the lack of anyone I could trust between the four of you was driving me insane and ydra’s reaction felt authentically happy... which I guess it was but for the wrong reason

(2) I figured that if it was ydra/mo then pretending to believe she was conf would get me brought to F3 instead of killed

@2nd point, i’m always going to kill you there because wifom over “why are we both still here” is very dumb and you would have figured that out, i just take my chances with bingle/nm instead, way better odds.

[Ydrasse]

the setup seemed cool even if i didn’t get to use any of it ;;

when do we get pts?

[Ydrasse]

aw okay, no redactions for me from the mafia pt

[Ydrasse]

Mena never considered you and mo.

I actually did realise this after the fact but didn’t mention for a couple of reasons

(1) the lack of anyone I could trust between the four of you was driving me insane and ydra’s reaction felt authentically happy... which I guess it was but for the wrong reason

(2) I figured that if it was ydra/mo then pretending to believe she was conf would get me brought to F3 instead of killed

@2nd point, i’m always going to kill you there because wifom over “why are we both still here” is very dumb and you would have figured that out, i just take my chances with bingle/nm instead, way better odds.

fr? i think u would have wayyyy better odds with keeping mena alive and thats because nm / bingle were most likely way more set on nm + bingle. then just use the "why are we both still here" as the wifom stance against mayhaps nm and push the nm / mo narrative imo

wifom over a nightkill is always too risky; you kill the person who is the biggest threat to your wincon. mena wasn’t being suspected at all and as, in theory, a hammer on you would have “”confirmed”” (even if incorrectly) the sentiment of you/bingle or nm, it doesn’t make sense for him to stay alive especially when he’s aware that he could have been wrong/pocketed and does re-evaluate at end of game. him dying after your flip would be the kill any scum here would make i think, or me if i was town at that point.

[Ydrasse]

Ydra is a monster :>

GG !

Thanks for modding Lend!

<3 u pooky