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Post Post #4025 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:38 am

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This project of excluding and even then not really excluding information except for those vote pertaining to Anya is mistaken and seems like something scum me might do.
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Post Post #4026 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:42 am

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What I don’t get is why scum kitty would pick a fight here. Lld is fresh off a kill and I’m both defensive and easily sortable.
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Post Post #4027 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:47 am

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In post 4023, Bell wrote:You’re accusing me of stalling their wagon by asking for a claim before blind hammering them.
I don't understand this sentence, you didn't hammer? And it's not like anyone had a chance to react to Toog?
You did exactly what I would have done as scum, which is vote to not look bad while trying to give a buddy a chance to claim
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Post Post #4028 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:02 am

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In post 4027, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 4023, Bell wrote:You’re accusing me of stalling their wagon by asking for a claim before blind hammering them.
I don't understand this sentence, you didn't hammer? And it's not like anyone had a chance to react to Toog?
You did exactly what I would have done as scum, which is vote to not look bad while trying to give a buddy a chance to claim
Sorry, I have to drive to work now.
I was saying that I prefer people claiming instead of them getting blind hammered.

I would have given lip service or said something more to cover my ass if I was scum. But that’s my wifom explanation. I could get into the internal thought processes for each when I get home though if you’d like, and by you I mean everyone else who isn’t scum.
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Post Post #4029 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:12 am

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In post 3954, Chara wrote:Dunn: why do you TR SS? also curious about your non-poe scumreads, but mostly Ircher, and what the difference is between poe scum and just null in your list.
It's just a feeling

The difference is that I believe everyone in poe scum is a likely mafia while null is sort later
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Post Post #4030 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:13 am

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In post 3956, notscience wrote:Dunn you know you can interact with me to try and read me better right
Not a priority, but noted
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Post Post #4031 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:13 am

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In post 3957, White Fire wrote:hey dunn u gonna respond to me or what
It doesn't seem like you've addressed me
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Post Post #4032 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:14 am

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In post 4028, Bell wrote:I was saying that I prefer people claiming instead of them getting blind hammered.
Ah yeah I mean this is not unreasonable. It's just weird that you voted while also seemed to be trying to stall
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Post Post #4033 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:16 am

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In post 3963, Flea The Magician wrote:Try being 20 pages behind, also Dunn votes are always good, no doubt he's still wearing his drill out on me.
In post 3965, Flea The Magician wrote:Already am. That said, with what I'm reading I wont be for long -.-;
This woe is me/Dunn tunneling angle is way overblown considering what is actually going down

At this point in the thread you should not be caught up enough to see that it was a fake guilty, why do you think you would be eliminated over a guilty?
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Post Post #4034 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:16 am

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In post 3970, morph the cat wrote:Dunn, have you played much with Farkran?
Not really
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Post Post #4035 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:19 am

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VOTE: MURDERCAT
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Post Post #4036 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:31 am

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In post 4026, Bell wrote:What I don’t get is why scum kitty would pick a fight here. Lld is fresh off a kill and I’m both defensive and easily sortable.
If he was coming from a townie perspective, he might be in more of a "it looks bad for me but I should look for scum anyway" mood.

Which is why like, his not changing his read on me is bad, but his sudden read onto you is worse. I don't care if he's "just doing a wagon analysis".

He's got no vote down and 2 people he's calling scum, and those 2 people have reasons made of nothing. Like for all he complains in his post that he thinks I lacked substance in killing Anya, he's the one with nothing to say about either of us. You can see it both from his reaction to the pressure and his interaction with you.

You give him one good point about what you did on the wagon and all he can say is

"uhh well that's not unreasonable but I guess I still felt like you were stalling?"

which is code for

"uhh I'm caught in an obvious falsehood but I have to defend my mental perspective or I'll confess to being scum?"

It's not a good look.
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Post Post #4037 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 am

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Do you want our sword?

We have the duty to hand it to you this game, while things are as they are.
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Post Post #4038 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:52 am

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In post 4037, morph the cat wrote:Do you want our sword?

We have the duty to hand it to you this game, while things are as they are.
Yes, but I'm also thinking about how Fate used to play these games?

yesterday was a great example of using the skill and position I have, and I'm wondering about that "day 2" comment people were making.

I wonder if I don't switch up enough Day 2 to keep scum on toes. I feel like I don't start re-evaluating reads until I see a town flip.

... which might be a fine practice anyway?
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Post Post #4039 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:55 am

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In regards to murdercat, even "just looking at the wagon" seems to have completely missed the context of us being on the wagon until we asked for the hammer, then toog lolhammering.

So I mean there was a "let's ISO every player on the wagon as posted in the final vote count" without looking for ANY context about how each person got on and more importantly, who got OFF and why.
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Post Post #4040 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:57 am

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Like (sorry lexi I really thought you'd picked up my signals that I was faking and to play along) I'd argue our fake inno on Mara was a pretty major pivital point of the wagon formation on Anya (In that it caused you to look elsewhere and find anyascum), that and our full-throated defense of Sigmund caused the last few votes to trickle in.

But murder's analysis skips all of that.
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Post Post #4041 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:08 am

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VOTE: MurderCat


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Post Post #4042 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:21 am

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In post 4022, MURDERCAT wrote:It's an analysis of how Bell interacted with Anya. Read that quotes list and tell me the interaction doesn't look bad? I am only focusing on Anya at the moment
This is fine as far as it goes-- Bell's interactions with Anya, in a vacuum, would indeed be highly suspect.

But, you can't base a read entirely on interactions with flipped scum, especially in the case of someone like Bell. So if that's not what you're doing, then you really need to be more clear about that.
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Post Post #4043 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:23 am

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In post 4039, morph the cat wrote:In regards to murdercat, even "just looking at the wagon" seems to have completely missed the context of us being on the wagon until we asked for the hammer, then toog lolhammering.

So I mean there was a "let's ISO every player on the wagon as posted in the final vote count" without looking for ANY context about how each person got on and more importantly, who got OFF and why.
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Post Post #4044 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:24 am

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He also only mentioned Anya twice day one and neither time was to give a read
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Post Post #4045 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:26 am

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You are all free to flip me, my role is useful but I am worried about creating a false guilty with it so I have idled both nights.
I'm not going to change my style of play to please you. But at least let me finish my analysis before you flip me.
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Post Post #4046 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:52 am

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Elaborate since you've outted.
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Post Post #4047 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 4046, Ircher wrote:Elaborate since you've outted.
Noting that you didn't ask the same of us when I outed that we targeted Sigmund N1/S2.
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Post Post #4048 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:40 am

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In post 4046, Ircher wrote:Elaborate since you've outted.
I don't think it's worth it at the moment
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Post Post #4049 (ISO) » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:18 am

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This looks a lot like town murdercat to me.
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