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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:41 am

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Questions/Thoughts:

@T3 - is your town read on Vax solely for 116? Don't you think there's a chance scum!Vax could easily deploy this tactic for potential town cred?

@Jumble I know who you suspect, I'd like to know: who do you town read right now?

@VaxKiller - What did you think of my 135? I asked a question at the end of my read on you/GIF but noticed you didn't respond, and voted me later - I feel I may have angered you in some way. Did yousee something you didn't agree with/thought was scummy?

Jumble is up, slightly, on my list. I like 146 apart from the unvote. Reads well tonally & provides reasons for scum reads which I like.

Anticipating Sang and Johnny to give their thoughts.

As for GIF I think I'm gonna turn the
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UNVOTE:
VOTE: GuyInFreezer

I feel you're playing slightly safe and non-committal due to not explaining your reads, but at the very least I know your pool of potential scum. Even so, I want to hear more.

Can you elaborate on any of your reads? Even if it's you calling me scum of the earth for reasons X, Y and Z?
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:45 am

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In post 200, Clasko wrote:I feel I may have angered you in some way
Naw, I dont really get angry. Also (I think) we try to keep the newbie queue filled with positive players. I may get really excite sometimes tho! I'll check out your 135.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:47 am

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You know what? Your approach to the game is pretty towny, you give clear precise reads. I like it!
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:47 am

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VOTE: GuyInFreezer
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:09 am

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Vote Count 1-6
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The dessert Buontalenti invented for the banquet was a sorbet made with ice, salt (to lower the freezing temperature), lemon, sugar, egg, honey, milk and a drop of wine. His cold cream was flavored with bergamot and orange and was the forerunner of the modern Florentine cream.



GuyInFreezer
(2) -> Clasko, Vaxkiller [E-3]
Rockhopper
(2) -> sang froid, T3
Vaxkiller
(1) -> Rockhopper

Not Voting
(5) -> sang froid, NotAJumbleOfNumbers, Roden, GuyInFreezer, JohnnyFarrar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.



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Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-15 09:00:00)

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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:11 am

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sang froid has been prodded.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:09 am

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Posts may look decent but if you actually look at it the reads are really just following the flow of the game.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:15 am

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In post 200, Clasko wrote:I feel you're playing slightly safe and non-committal due to not explaining your reads
I play like this every game actually regardless of alignment because I'm lazy af
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:21 am

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Yeah but the fact Vax didn't actually say what he was doing seemed towny. Like it felt like a natural thing,, not something to get towncred for.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:29 am

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Huh? Who are you responding to?
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:09 am

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In post 206, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Posts may look decent but if you actually look at it the reads are really just following the flow of the game.
Not really? His first reads list placed Sang in town which was going against general opinion at the time, I think. But at the same time I kind of understand it too - 130 and 200 were a bit of an echo. That being said, he added some of his own thoughts too, so that shouldn't count against him.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:28 am

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In post 210, NotAJumbleOfNumbers wrote:
In post 206, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Posts may look decent but if you actually look at it the reads are really just following the flow of the game.
Not really? His first reads list placed Sang in town which was going against general opinion at the time, I think. But at the same time I kind of understand it too - 130 and 200 were a bit of an echo. That being said, he added some of his own thoughts too, so that shouldn't count against him.
I don’t mean read wise.
Let me put it this way. He’s only pushing people he thinks he can push while remaining fence on pretty much all the reads. Like by post 130 for an example, it’s really easy to get a feel by then that Roden and sang will be hard to push. So he just sorts them as town. The rest however looks like a fair game so he goes “hmmm I’m not sure they could be scum they could be not” etc. Especially his read on Jumble. He had him as scummiest and yet his following post looks appeasy for ?????
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:34 am

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Overall his stances are weak and wishy washy and I feel like he is structuring his read based on how the game feels.
Now I’ve seen town do this too so Clasko town doing this is not completely out of the scope, but considering how strongly I’m townreading others I’m content to keep his place where he is.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:40 am

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In post 200, Clasko wrote:@Jumble I know who you suspect, I'd like to know: who do you town read right now?
Roden first, then maybe you or Vaxkiller? I'm only confident in Roden, he's been consistently posting very useful posts.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:44 am

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Also I think I said yesterday that some reads are reliant on the 4D chess.
I no longer think I need to rely on that to townread them.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:45 am

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Locktown (Outside of a cop guilty etc etc)
Jumble, Rockhopper, T3, sang, Roden

The rest
Clasko, Vax, Johnny
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:49 am

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How have you locked five other people in nine pages????
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:53 am

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Because I've seen enough.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:07 am

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There's an issue with the vote-counter that I've been using this game, which resulted in a vote inaccuracy in the 1-5 and 1-6 vote counts. They have been corrected to add sang froid's vote on Rockhopper.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:10 am

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Jumble is my biggest questiomark right now. He seems to be self conscious about his posting but I can't tel whether it's town or scum self consciousness.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:18 am

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disconcerting how GIF doesnt have me as lock town.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 220, Vaxkiller wrote:disconcerting how GIF doesnt have me as lock town.
disconcerting how you can totally perform better than this as town
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:14 am

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ahh, sorry ffery, I've just been busy!

I'm kinda prod dodging bc I need a little bit more time to think about what's been happening

one possibility is GIF/rock where GIF's outed his reads to try and save the slot

on the other hand I was kind of second guessing myself on rockhopper anyway, so I may have just been wrong

I'll post more substantively tomo
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:33 am

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In post 197, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 193, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 191, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 184, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 175, Vaxkiller wrote:VOTE: Clasko
Why Clasko and what do you think of Roden's townread on him?
Shrug. What does rodens townread matter on him?
I mean, Roden stated that their reads/thought processes matched, so I was wondering why you would townread one of them and vote the other.
Cause Roden can be town but wrong.
This is very fair tbh. I feel a little better when people push back on my reads or make their own conflicting reads. The scum doesn't feel obvious right now and I'd likely second guess myself if everyone just agreed with me.

The reason I'm town reading Clasko so highly is that even though we have a similar thought process here, it doesn't sound like he's just sheeping me. He's adding his own comments and the counter pressure on GIF seems appropriate.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 219, T3 wrote:Jumble is my biggest questiomark right now. He seems to be self conscious about his posting but I can't tel whether it's town or scum self consciousness.
I think this being notable about Jumble from the start is what makes me lean town for him right now.

I do have a
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concern that he could be trying to pocket me (hard town reading me, defending my reads), but that's just a paranoid thought tbh, and he isn't coming off as opportunistic anyway.

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