Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Titus]

*sighs* Time to find the other scum.

Ircher reads more self absorbed than scummy.

Something Smart might just be scum.

[WhemeStar]

Yo Dunn, how do you feel about WhemeStar?

Cause recent posting has got me twitching a bit

I’m your sword wtf!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo Dunn, how do you feel about WhemeStar?

Cause recent posting has got me twitching a bit

I’m your sword wtf!

And so did the Queen turn to her vassal, her strong right hand, and speak thusly:

Your strength holds value only equal to your loyalty. For while I have no use for a sword whose edge is dulled, I risk just as much from the sharpened dagger that cuts both ways.

And so did the vassal learn that blind obedience is the greatest enemy of the truth.

[Dunnstral]

Yo Dunn, how do you feel about WhemeStar?

Cause recent posting has got me twitching a bit

I don't feel strongly about his posts

I acknowledge that it is possible for him to be mafia but don't want to go there when I have other scumreads

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have no use for a sword who cannot face scrutiny, or those who would hide a hidden edge.

I have no use for a blade whose steel does not temper under the focus of my flames.

And I have no use for those who let their edge dull, and simply rely on their Queen's skill alone.

Or to put it more bluntly,

Your current posting has given me concern, and I wish to see what progresses of this line.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yo Dunn, how do you feel about WhemeStar?

Cause recent posting has got me twitching a bit

I don't feel strongly about his posts

I acknowledge that it is possible for him to be mafia but don't want to go there when I have other scumreads

And you think that White Fire is the right place to go?

Hasn't Firebringer been hard trolling this entire day though

[Bell]

Dunnstrall tends to snap at people that push him. I think his vote is just that. A request for white fire to back up.
I might be oversimplifying a more complex behavior tho.

I regret the MC wagon, not because I think it’s wrong but because I wish we’d done it later in the day so that the game didn’t stall.

[Bingle]

What distinguishes mc wagon from anya wagon yesterday in this regard (am referring to after sigmund's claim)? time pressure?

Missed this, but the anya wagon had viable counterwagons and more time pressure yes.

I'm also not worried about MC claiming, I'm worried about MC giving content, which I didn't really expect to be forthcoming from Anya regardless of alignment.

MC as town usually has pretty solid reads, so if I'm going to be party to mislimming him I want to give him a chance to share those reads. If he's scum, we're not in a position where the thread is suffering from stagnation so I'm happy to give him a chance to contribute.

[Bingle]

I regret the MC wagon, not because I think it’s wrong but because I wish we’d done it later in the day so that the game didn’t stall.

To an extent I agree. The wagon would probably have been more informative if it hadn’t happened when mc was absent.

On the other hand, ircher and ndmath have been more readable than they have been all game in the last ~10 pages. The wagon shift from mc to ircher WAS kind of strange, especially when as Dunn pointed out the only real impetus there was irchers vote on me and immediate shift to Titus. I don’t think the game is as stalled as it might seem.

[Flea The Magician]

Ircher are you ok?

Like seriously, your play here seems so impulsive and discombobulated (wow big word) I am doing a concern...

[Flea The Magician]

Ircher are you ok?

Like seriously, your play here seems so impulsive and discombobulated (wow big word) I am doing a concern...

[Farkran]

*sighs* Time to find the other scum.

Ircher reads more self absorbed than scummy.

Something Smart might just be scum.

Why SS?

[Farkran]

Also i don't like ircher as today's elimination

My current scumreads: murdercat, ndmath, flea, titus

My concerns: chara, guillo, white fire, shea

Everyone else is fine to me as far as today is concerned

[Dunnstral]

Yo Dunn, how do you feel about WhemeStar?

Cause recent posting has got me twitching a bit

I don't feel strongly about his posts

I acknowledge that it is possible for him to be mafia but don't want to go there when I have other scumreads

And you think that White Fire is the right place to go?

Hasn't Firebringer been hard trolling this entire day though

I'm not sure why that's a reason not to vote for them?

I think White fire is one of many places we can go that would be good

I currently think that if there is only one between murdercat and Ircher, it's more likely to be murdercat (there's nothing to suggest it is not both except for wagons moving around and Ircher's willingness to vote for murdercat)

I do think Ircher's play is pretty strange

There are a lot of people who have faded into the background

[MURDERCAT]

I would like elaboration on all of these.

What makes Irch's vote nonconsequential while he's stuck in catchup hell? When was his opportunity to push for bus cred?

How is Titus's D2 a good look for Titus on the Anya wagon?

Why is Dunn's shade of absent you bad? Why isn't his vote without a push good for him in the same way as Irch's?

Why does LLD hardbus there? Have you played with LLD before?

Ircher reads both at the front and end of the game and could have unvoted as part of catchup to avoid anya wagon gaining traction or could have made more of a point of pushing anya as part of the catchup, imo

My point there was that looking at Titus in relation to Anya was probably less valuable compared to how Titus reacted to the fake guilty. But then I decided there was actually a decent reason to like what Titus was saying anyway.

This I will have to answer later as it's a gut feeling, I don't have evidence to back it up at the moment. I might go back and reread and decide it was valid similar to what I did with Titus. But in the moment I felt badly about how Dunn pushed me.

I have played with both LLD town and LLD scum, though I'm not sure I have played with LLD scum when I am town. My understanding of LLD is she is someone who wants control and does forceful pushes as both alignments. I firmly believe Anya was bussed because dayplaywise she wasn't contributing anything. When she was bussed is open to interpretation. I would have to look back at the wagons but it is possible that Sigmund is doc scum or scum decided that if it wasn't going to be Sigmund it was going to be more useful scum (Flea?) and so Anya was pushed. Or LLD is just town, I was wrong in death curse.

[MURDERCAT]

I think there's something off in the Bell/Shea interaction wrt murderkitty, but I can't pinpoint what exactly. I'd like additional perspective there if people are around to give it to me. The entire back and forth just didn't feel very T/T at all.

It is possible Shea or Titus are white knighting me, but I am of the opinion at the moment that Shea is town and Bell is scum.

[Dunnstral]

There's 5 scum left and only having 1 or 2 scumreads means you aren't looking at the game, especially when it's on people who aren't really in contention for being eliminated today

That's at Murdercat and White Fire, and kind of at THQ unless I totally missed his scumreads

[MURDERCAT]

Ircher if you have an uncertain result on me claim it, otherwise I think we are both town and you are doing us both a disservice

[MURDERCAT]

That's at Murdercat

I have more than 1 or 2 scumreads

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstrall tends to snap at people that push him. I think his vote is just that. A request for white fire to back up.
I might be oversimplifying a more complex behavior tho.

I think we should eliminate them because there is a good chance they are mafia

[Titus]

Sorry, I'm not likely to be on today.

X post all games.

[Bell]

Ircher if you have an uncertain result on me claim it, otherwise I think we are both town and you are doing us both a disservice

Mc is that all?

[Dunnstral]

That's at Murdercat

I have more than 1 or 2 scumreads

I believe you've indicated otherwise

[Bell]

I request that we move his wagon to e-1

[Bell]

His reads remain upside down all game and there comes a point where you just have to bop him given his title above his head. I file a suit of malpractice.

Or something. I’m not going to get eliminated this game murderkitty. Because I never get eliminated unless I’m scum.