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[shiki]

okay so we have:

gamma emerald - vanilla town
anya - vanilla town
jake the wolfie - vanilla town
shiki - vanilla town

sigmund - vanilla town?
dwlee - vanilla town?
nero cain - vanilla town?
vfp - vanilla town?

minimegabyte - town macho rolestopper
johnnyfarrar - macho doctor mason
t3 - macho doctor mason

rae - novice macho cop?

unless someone thinks town's power was macho rolestopper + novice macho cop in a 9:3

yeah it's just

at least one of {rae, vfp}

and

at least two (possibly three if vfp) of {vfp, sigmund, dwlee, nero cain}

[Rae]

does hectic hard defend monkey despite the game suspecting him multiple times.

[VFP]

Not to mention a standard rolestopper claim in a mass claim means that the cop gets 3 results unless killed. That makes the roleblocker redundant alone.

well it's a macho novice cop so can't check day one and can't be protected by rolestopper or doctor

Well they can be protected from action from the rolestopper right? Just not the death.
As I said, if mass claimed and done with the smallest amount of intelligence, then there's going to be 2/3 results before hand.

[Rae]

I have this worry that t3 is in a masonry and not a hood so

what the fuck is this tmi hahahahahahaha

[Rae]

ok im self-convinced that sigmund being theater is more likely and maybe hectic was just trying to nuthug monkey because reasons. i could be wrong about dwlee but i never change my shiki read ever. hectic's ISO just solidifies that.

[Rae]

{t3, johnny, shiki}
{dwlee, monkey}
{sigmund, VFP}

so probably one between dwlee/monkey and if im fucking stellar then both sigmund/VFP are scum. if shiki is fooling me she can just win and then i have little reason to doubt macho doctor mason claims that's pretty ballsy and both would have to be scum.

[shiki]

doctor masons super confirmed i think because if rae is mafia they have to be town and if vfp is mafia why would the tactic ever be doubt the masons here so just going to leave them as green forever

[Rae]

i went into hectic's ISO thinking yeah im gonna analyze the shit out of this then realized with 3 townies in my mind the PoE just comes down to a {dwlee, monkey, sigmund} and there's confirmed 2 scum in there which is fucking awesome.

[Dwlee99]

I'm just confused why mafia wouldn't kill in the masonry when that is obviously what they were claiming and I think scum just lost on bad night kills unless rae is bs. Reason for no kill here would be to get another cop invest off.

[Dwlee99]

No kill -> no elim

[shiki]

? how would we get a cop invest?

[Dwlee99]

i never change my shiki read ever

I agree but the more people that say this the more concerned I get lmao guess we all suck it up at some point.

? how would we get a cop invest?

Rae targets someone tonight?

[Rae]

I'm just confused why mafia wouldn't kill in the masonry when that is obviously what they were claiming and I think scum just lost on bad night kills unless rae is bs. Reason for no kill here would be to get another cop invest off.

i dont believe in this and you shouldn't either. there's no way im able to get an investigation off im pretty much a gated 1-shot cop in my eyes.

[Dwlee99]

Why do you keep saying there is no way we get an invest off?

[shiki]

Rae targets someone tonight?

and the mafia kill rae? oh wait this is smart

[shiki]

Rae targets someone tonight?

and the mafia kill rae? oh wait this is smart

but the mafia can just not kill rae to leave the wifom,

[VFP]

I think its just Nero Dwlee and Rae.
I'm not sure Rae puts Sigmund into possible lim range as buddies today. I also think they just want to get town onside and that's the reason for the town pile.

VOTE: Rae

We can lim Rae today and follow this, even though I'm suspecting strongly suspecting traitor.
But the lim shouldn't be outside of me and Rae and shouldn't be a no lim.

[shiki]

so it just leaves us in the same position right? needing to decide if rae is truthful or not?

[Dwlee99]

I mean we can do the math but I think our chance of winning based on eliminating is the same w no elim so we should go for getting an investigation off.

Rae targets someone tonight?

and the mafia kill rae? oh wait this is smart

but the mafia can just not kill rae to leave the wifom,

Okay but then if we later can somehow confirm rae is good (idk flip VFP unless it's a bus?) then we have an extra result.

[Rae]

Why do you keep saying there is no way we get an invest off?

i simply cannot believe scum doesn't have a way to fuck with me.

[VFP]

so it just leaves us in the same position right? needing to decide if rae is truthful or not?

Of course.
You can go for which either, but the approach to it today was pretty staged and it looked like Dwlee was trying to tell the traitor to go for the fake guilty.
Personally from my PoV this game is set.

[shiki]

You can go for which either, but the approach to it today was pretty staged and it looked like Dwlee was trying to tell the traitor to go for the fake guilty.

why do you think there is a traitor?

[Dwlee99]

the approach to it today was pretty staged and it looked like Dwlee was trying to tell the traitor to go for the fake guilty.

Huh

[VFP]

You can go for which either, but the approach to it today was pretty staged and it looked like Dwlee was trying to tell the traitor to go for the fake guilty.

why do you think there is a traitor?

12p, no investigation role, makes the most sense.

[Dwlee99]

Honestly if you're town and think I'm evil get that out of your head because there is zero way I kill the two people in the game who say they think I'm town. Gamma called me obvtown and Anya said she believes I wouldn't drive Gamma into the desert and you think I killed them over the obviously softing masons? You're insane.