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Post Post #4775 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 4770, notscience wrote:Morph, Sangres vote agreement re MCat? I think it was sangres
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Post Post #4776 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:17 am

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In post 4763, Dwlee99 wrote:Another thing I just thought about is I feel like scum!murdercat would rather push Ircher here than be eliminated if Ircher is town, which makes me think scum!cat implies scum!ircher.
This post is what I was responding to in reference to the kill me thing. Since you were pointing out that it doesn’t make sense for murderkitty not to push richer here unless he’s town. I was pointing out that it can tie back into survivalism by showing a lack of it and creating a point of doubt.
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Post Post #4777 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:23 am

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In post 4775, morph the cat wrote:
In post 4770, notscience wrote:Morph, Sangres vote agreement re MCat? I think it was sangres
not sure what you're asking?
Actually I change my mind

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Post Post #4778 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:23 am

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In post 4773, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 4771, notscience wrote:
In post 4763, Dwlee99 wrote:Another thing I just thought about is I feel like scum!murdercat would rather push Ircher here than be eliminated if Ircher is town, which makes me think scum!cat implies scum!ircher.
Look at the first six votes if there’s a bus it HAS to be him lmao
Can you rephrase this? I don't get what you're saying.
Look at his current wagon who in it do you think is scum? There would in theory be four more
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Post Post #4779 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:26 am

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In post 4763, Dwlee99 wrote:Another thing I just thought about is I feel like scum!murdercat would rather push Ircher here than be eliminated if Ircher is town, which makes me think scum!cat implies scum!ircher.
This post is what I was responding to in reference to the kill me thing. Since you were pointing out that it doesn’t make sense for murderkitty not to push richer here unless he’s town. I was pointing out that it can tie back into survivalism by showing a lack of it and creating a point of doubt.
Okay but I'm talking towntells here. I think scum!murder would behave differently than he is right now. It is certainly possible for scum!murder to do what he is doing right now, but that isn't evidence of being evil and none of the other things I've seen make me think this is scum murder other than 1. Lack of claim 2. Maybe the reads not matching up with mine or yours. Which reads do you feel like he absolutely should agree with you on that he isn't right now?
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In post 4771, notscience wrote:
In post 4763, Dwlee99 wrote:Another thing I just thought about is I feel like scum!murdercat would rather push Ircher here than be eliminated if Ircher is town, which makes me think scum!cat implies scum!ircher.
Look at the first six votes if there’s a bus it HAS to be him lmao
Can you rephrase this? I don't get what you're saying.
Look at his current wagon who in it do you think is scum? There would in theory be four more
Is he Murdercat or is he Ircher here?
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Post Post #4780 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:28 am

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Wagon is murdercat bus vote is ircher imo.
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Post Post #4781 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:30 am

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In post 4780, notscience wrote:Wagon is murdercat bus vote is ircher imo.
So you think both are scum and scum are trying to kill Ircher instead of Murdercat? I'm still lost on your phrasing. I will say based on the last vote count I think that Ircher's wagon is almost all or all town and MC's wagon is much sketchier. I don't think scum want to bus today, so I think Ircher is a much better wagon composition here.
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Post Post #4782 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:36 am

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How would murderkitty be behaving differently than he is now if he were scum

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Post Post #4783 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:38 am

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I think he doesn't push LLD hard day one like he did and I don't think he avoids a push on Ircher unless Ircher is his scum buddy.
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Post Post #4784 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:38 am

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Yes that’s what not science is pointing out clumsily. That pretty much by default if mc voted ircher right now he’d be the most likely bus vote.
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Post Post #4785 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:39 am

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Why does ff think mc is town.
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Post Post #4786 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:39 am

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Because of the thing about MC and Ircher and my feel that scum!mc implies scum!ircher, the probability that ircher flips scum here has to be greater than or equal to MC flipping scum here and is thus a better yeet.
Bell wrote:Why does ff think mc is town.
Who is FF?
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Post Post #4787 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:40 am

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I think both are scum but ircher is a stronger PR. Yeah your wagon looks like all town, but the only three on the MCat wagon I’m shaky about are Chara, Fark, and Ircher.

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Post Post #4788 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:41 am

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Post Post #4789 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:41 am

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In post 4787, notscience wrote:I think both are scum but ircher is a stronger PR. Yeah your wagon looks like all town, but the only three on the MCat wagon I’m shaky about are Chara, Fark, and Ircher.

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Post Post #4790 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:42 am

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I’m working on office stuff so I have a few
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Post Post #4791 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:42 am

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I can’t imagine notty posting at work as scum tbh.
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Post Post #4792 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:43 am

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I didn’t do it as much but I still did it some

But like, meh
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Post Post #4793 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:44 am

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In post 4786, Dwlee99 wrote:Because of the thing about MC and Ircher and my feel that scum!mc implies scum!ircher, the probability that ircher flips scum here has to be greater than or equal to MC flipping scum here and is thus a better yeet.
Bell wrote:Why does ff think mc is town.
Who is FF?
I find that ircher or MC being scum alone more likely than them being scum together because I understand basic principles of mathematics.
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Post Post #4794 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:47 am

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In post 4785, Bell wrote:Why does ff think mc is town.
MC is in the middle of null and within the PoE to me. Cabd has him as stronger town than that and I think he's explained it pretty well already.

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Post Post #4795 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:48 am

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Sure, thanks ff.
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Post Post #4796 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:50 am

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In post 4787, notscience wrote:but the only three on the MCat wagon I’m shaky about are Chara, Fark, and Ircher.
There hasn't been a vote count in a little so idk the exact numbers but isn't that at least a third of the wagon?
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Post Post #4797 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:51 am

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In post 4793, Bell wrote:I find that ircher or MC being scum alone more likely than them being scum together because I understand basic principles of mathematics.
Yea so do I, which is why I said if scum!mc implies scum!ircher, then p(scum!ircher) >= p(scum!mc).
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Post Post #4798 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:52 am

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In post 4796, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 4787, notscience wrote:but the only three on the MCat wagon I’m shaky about are Chara, Fark, and Ircher.
There hasn't been a vote count in a little so idk the exact numbers but isn't that at least a third of the wagon?
It’s a decent chunk, the latter two being late jump ins.

Don’t get me wrong I have zero qualms with ircher going (we both shot each other yesterday)

But I think MCat is the move today
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Post Post #4799 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:58 am

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In post 4797, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 4793, Bell wrote:I find that ircher or MC being scum alone more likely than them being scum together because I understand basic principles of mathematics.
Yea so do I, which is why I said if scum!mc implies scum!ircher, then p(scum!ircher) >= p(scum!mc).
But this probability you’re using is literally all weighted on your opinion of what is and isn’t scummy and what is and isn’t townie and what is and isn’t a bus vote. :/

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