Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.In post 4824, Something_Smart wrote:This seems to imply that it's not possible for a role to not have SP.In post 1, unwnd wrote:2. On N0, everyone will start with 2 SP. SP is required in order to certain abilities. You need enough SP to do so. If you have enough SP, you may be allowed to use more than one ability. Everyone will gain 1 SP at the end of the night stratum (this does not count towards N0).
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@people who know flavor (i.e. morph): is SP a mechanic in the game? Is Farmer a class that does not use it?It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Because if NDMath had SP but could not use it, he would still be able to confirm or deny whether Titus had blocked him from gaining it. He claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny that.In post 4825, Dwlee99 wrote:Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Was I around for this?In post 4827, Something_Smart wrote:
Because if NDMath had SP but could not use it, he would still be able to confirm or deny whether Titus had blocked him from gaining it. He claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny that.In post 4825, Dwlee99 wrote:Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.I prefer they, thanks :)-
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No.In post 4830, Dwlee99 wrote:
Was I around for this?In post 4827, Something_Smart wrote:
Because if NDMath had SP but could not use it, he would still be able to confirm or deny whether Titus had blocked him from gaining it. He claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny that.In post 4825, Dwlee99 wrote:Can you clarify why that's relevant? A role could also have SP without ever using it by not having an ability that costs SP.
There was a fake guilty on me. I crumbed my actions. I asked Chara and NDMath to confirm. NDMath refused. NDMath got run up for being scummy. They claimed No SP then they claimed watcher.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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More than this-- he dodged the question until I spelled it out in very clear terms, at which point he claimed that he was unable to confirm or deny Titus, but even then he didn't say why. That wasn't clarified until he claimed.In post 4831, Titus wrote:There was a fake guilty on me. I crumbed my actions. I asked Chara and NDMath to confirm. NDMath refused. NDMath got run up for being scummy. They claimed No SP then they claimed watcher.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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There are. STD and Toogeloo each had one.In post 4829, Bell wrote:However, I believe there are some innate abilities that don't require SP at all.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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By the way, I asked if unwnd if it was possible for a role to not have SP. They refused to answer, which is equivalent to saying that it's possible.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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If I am right on NDMath (which I likely am) then SS becomes near locktown.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Makes sense. We're not killing Mdmath though.In post 4836, Titus wrote:If I am right on NDMath (which I likely am) then SS becomes near locktown.-
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Because watcher?
If NDMath is town then surely scum have some kind of counter for it.
Anya's flavor was Ninja but it doesn't seem like her role particularly countered a watcher? I guess kind of, because she could use her innate attack without being seen, but not the NK.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Because watcher and because you created reasonable doubt but not a slam dunk.In post 4839, Something_Smart wrote:Because watcher?
If NDMath is town then surely scum have some kind of counter for it.
Anya's flavor was Ninja but it doesn't seem like her role particularly countered a watcher? I guess kind of, because she could use her innate attack without being seen, but not the NK.-
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Farmer is not a combat classIn post 4828, Bell wrote:Every class uses sp for abilities both abilities on the map and abilities in combat (you can interact with or affect the environment with some abilities)-
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Combine that with Anya's and NDMath's play though.In post 4840, Bell wrote:
Because watcher and because you created reasonable doubt but not a slam dunk.In post 4839, Something_Smart wrote:Because watcher?
If NDMath is town then surely scum have some kind of counter for it.
Anya's flavor was Ninja but it doesn't seem like her role particularly countered a watcher? I guess kind of, because she could use her innate attack without being seen, but not the NK.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Doubt it. Scum wouldn't take this vocal of a stance and that's not your usual scum MO (but you can deviate like Team Mafia).In post 4842, Bell wrote:Or maybe I’m scum with ndmath huehuehueShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yes, but there was a class called farm in EO that i vaguely remember giving exp bonuses and being able to do something to the land which, from a flavor perspective (even though unwnd said not) would fit a watcher role.In post 4841, Dunnstral wrote:
Farmer is not a combat classIn post 4828, Bell wrote:Every class uses sp for abilities both abilities on the map and abilities in combat (you can interact with or affect the environment with some abilities)
I also asked if unwnd gave the scum team fake claims which he neither confirmed nor denied but he did say he wouldn’t generate fake claims on request. Which isn’t very helpful tbh.-
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NDMath also had the word ninja but didn't actually bypass trackers/watchers except for their hp loss and that would be 1-2 shot at best. It seems odd to have a full, ungated watcher against that.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Yes, but it invalidates the argument that NDMath should be kept alive because his role is powerful, if that's what you were getting at.In post 4847, Bell wrote:I’m very allergic to balance arguments with watchers.
There are clear ways to balance a watcher roll in this set up.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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