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Post Post #4900 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:50 pm

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Just went through discord talk with unwnd and I would like to clarify that he stated explicitly that he didn’t provide fake claims to the scum team at the beginning of the game.
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Post Post #4901 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:50 pm

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When I say fakeclaim I don't mean a mod-crafted fakeclaim.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #4902 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:51 pm

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@ndmath: Did Unwnd tell you whether you had or currently have SP?
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Post Post #4903 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 4899, Dwlee99 wrote:As a mod I would never answer that question directly if it was directly impactful on someone's fake claim.
I would answer it iff I had already intended it to be public knowledge but what I wrote wasn't clear. If scum don't bother to ask if their fakeclaim is viable, that's on them.
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Post Post #4904 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:53 pm

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Y’all best leave that mod duo alone or I’ll attack you >:(
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Post Post #4905 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:53 pm

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In fact letting the gamestate impact whether you answer a question is arguably bastard because it's mod influence on the game.
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Post Post #4906 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 4900, Bell wrote:Just went through discord talk with unwnd and I would like to clarify that he stated explicitly that he didn’t provide fake claims to the scum team at the beginning of the game.
This presumably means that at least some of the scum have roles they can reasonably claim
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Post Post #4907 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:55 pm

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I mean the other part of this is what has that slot done since claiming watcher and dipping?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #4908 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:55 pm

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Is SS town?

I have never synced with them this much before

This is really weird
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Post Post #4909 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:56 pm

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We played together in Smuggler's Port, right?

Were there any other ones? I can't remember any.
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Post Post #4910 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:57 pm

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I was scum you were town

I was in illicit as secret tunnels and I was in tenet as Annie Edison
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Post Post #4911 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:59 pm

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Right yeah

I don't remember us interacting much in either game.
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Post Post #4912 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:00 pm

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I mean yes but I still usually pick up similar frequencies and would have caught something like that
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Post Post #4913 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:00 pm

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But I also wouldn't say that it's a towntell for me to be reasonable wrt mechanics, since I generally don't lie about that stuff as scum.
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Post Post #4914 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:01 pm

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Except insomuch as me posting at all is very slightly +town.
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Post Post #4915 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:01 pm

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You’ve beaten me to what I wanted to say like five times today

So meh.
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Post Post #4916 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:12 pm

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There are a lot of reasons why a scum watcher hypothetically would target a townie leader who just led a town yeet on a scum target after day 1. Some of them involve role confirmation for being read as town/not being seen as suspicious. Some of them involve information fishing, as many roles might be likely to target me that night and they would be roles scum would want to remove. Granted, Sigmund was claimed, but it's a large.

I'm very confused that Titus didn't... come to this conclusion herself?
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Post Post #4917 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:17 pm

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In post 4886, Titus wrote:
In post 4881, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4880, Titus wrote:Does anyone disagree with my theory that if NDMath is scum true claiming that LLD is likely scum?
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Why?
Because that doesn't line up with my reads
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Post Post #4918 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:17 pm

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In post 4871, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4867, notscience wrote:No, guillo was too uptight to be scum
Guillotina was pretty towny but I don't understand this take. Is it a meta read?
i agree with it. if it is meta, not that, but while "uptight" isn't really the word i use i think Guillotina's attitude rang very genuine and very town. even if i disagreed with his methods they were consistent with what i could glean from him as a player and his reactions were consistently good.
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Post Post #4919 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:20 pm

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@Titus - don't really agree with the theory, a hypothetical scum Math could have made the choice to watch LLD in order to trueclaim his action, or for some other reason to learn about town PRs. i don't think it would be my first instinct as a scum watcher to watch my buddies necessarily.
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Post Post #4920 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:24 pm

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In post 4865, Titus wrote:Dwlee might be scum btw.
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Post Post #4921 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:26 pm

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@LLD, I'm not batting 100%, that's why I asked for feedback rather than just going with my theory.
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Post Post #4922 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:28 pm

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Wheme if I’m protecting you from morph you can’t kill my other strong townread >:(
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Post Post #4923 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:30 pm

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can someone protect Chara from morph.
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Post Post #4924 (ISO) » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm

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Oh my guillo read wasn’t Meta my only experience with guillo was xeno when they were obvscum and I called it out here and guillo got salty

Basically I’m saying scum wouldn’t be as self righteous and vindictive about their methods as he did, they’d likely have more humility

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Tbh I’ve toyed with the notion of just one of you and Fark being scum
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