Newbie 2067 - Pizza! - End!

[fferyllt]

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Pizza came to the US via Italian immigrants in the late 19th century, but weren't commercially available until Gennaro Lombardi first opened a grocery store in New York City in 1897. Even though Lombardi’s’ was only a grocery store, it quickly became a popular lunch hangout after Gennaro began selling tomato and cheese pies to take out. Gennaro’s early pizzas were conveniently wrapped in plain paper and became a favorite of workers who ate them right on their jobsites without the need for a table or utensils. The popularity of the take-out pies soon prompted Gennaro to apply for a formal New York City mercantile restaurant license and his little grocery store became the first commercial pizzeria in the United States in the year 1905.

StrangeMatter

(4): Pavowski, Lukewarm, Azeru, cyrus62

Save The Dragons

(1): HockeyFan

HockeyFan

(1): Zyla

Haschel Cedricson

(1): Save The Dragons

Pavowski

(1): StrangeMatter

Not Voting

(1): Haschel Cedricson

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 20, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-19 21:00:00)

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[cyrus62]

not his time

[cyrus62]

dang it mod beat me again.

[HockeyFan]

[quote="In post 673, cyrus62"][/quote]

eh I dont think thats much of a problem. Luke's the 2nd farthest from scum for me so meh. Azeru isnt really getting pushed rn either so I can defend Luke If i want to

[cyrus62]

@hockey fair enough i thought you said he was null not to long ago .

[StrangeMatter]

A lack of contributions through ISOs I feel like is something that should be addressed, but needs to see the contents to understand. For example, would you still think someone is scum for filler, but every once in a while, they make a post that seems like something very townie? Probably not. And that's what I am trying to do right now, to a worse degree. Wait, and find something that needs addressing, and then addressing the issue that might have been glossed over. Also, I won't deny that my ISOs have been mostly me defending myself, but mostly trying to justify what I think of certain scenarios, things that might be scummy to others, but normal for when I've played. However, it feels like you ignored the questions that I asked that is how I push my reads further.

[Lukewarm]

@Strange

If you are town, who do you think that we should be looking at right now. One of my biggest issues with you, is that you seem so passive / reactive in the thread. You have a decent number of posts, like you know you should be contributing, but then when I look at your iso I find it hard to nail down what you are thinking about any other player in the game. Like this entire game is about trying to figure out other people's alignment, and it is hard to see evidence that you are doing that reading your posts. You seem more interested in self preservation - and that is scum indicative.



Taking another look at your iso, I did see this

Forgot to do this but, this slot is too scummy for me not to talk about right now.

Vote: Pavowski

Is Pav still the person you are most suspicious of? If yes, why? If no, then who?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Going through everybody's ISOs. Done Pavowsky, who comes out looking good, and Strange, who does not.

Full deets when I'm done.

[StrangeMatter]

Pavowski was a weird case since they were mostly acting very Town, but then made a statement in #330 that didn't really make much sense, then came up with a reason to it later. I think they might've been scum who is seen as Town to take an opportunity to look more town by looking to pressure an easy scummy town, and I feel would fit the criteria to pull such a stunt off in the first place.

[Save The Dragons]

UNVOTE:

[cyrus62]

Going to unvote strange I think scum is on thire wagon. And thats why its taken so long

[Lukewarm]

Going to unvote strange I think scum is on thire wagon. And thats why its taken so long

They are at e-1. We have 5 days left before the deadline.

If they are scum, do you expect town to have quick hammered the wagon when it hit e-1?

If they are town, do you think that the scum team would have quick hammered the wagon when it hits e-1?

I don't think either one of those things is likely...

Why do you think that scum!strange would have been hammered faster then town!strange?

You're reasoning for joining and abandoning pushes is hard to follow :/

[StrangeMatter]

I'm considering there's a possibility that there's at least one between Pavowski and Azeru right now.

How likely would semi experienced scum pull two of the same trick out anyways?

[Lukewarm]

How likely would semi experienced scum pull two of the same trick out anyways?

I don't know what this means

[StrangeMatter]

Bad wording. Essentially, do you think someone of decent experience would be able to pull off something like what I described.

[Lukewarm]

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UNVOTE:

If this is strange's response to being put at e-1, it just doesn't feel like they have a partner?

Like I think that any one in this lobby as Strange's partner would have helped them come up with an angle to push

Maybe everyone I thought was scum before is actually town :/

[Lukewarm]

I think I am going to have to give this game another look over before I know where I want to push

[HockeyFan]

....

UNVOTE:

If this is strange's response to being put at e-1, it just doesn't feel like they have a partner?

Like I think that any one in this lobby as Strange's partner would have helped them come up with an angle to push

Maybe everyone I thought was scum before is actually town :/

might be the case for me tbh but I still think STD is scum here

[StrangeMatter]

Are you saying I'm not scum, because I have no direction with any of the angles that I have tried pushing so far?

[cyrus62]

i so wouldnt be surpized if lukewarm and hockeyfan were scum together. but no one seems to want to check them.

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: strangematter

[HockeyFan]

VOTE: strangematter

This vote??

[cyrus62]

VOTE: strangematter

you still think its strange.

[Lukewarm]

Are you saying I'm not scum, because I have no direction with any of the angles that I have tried pushing so far?

I think that you might actually be town, because you were put to e-1 in part because you seem to be lacking content and also focused on defending yourself, and then you made 680, which is still mostly just defending yourself.

I

had to tell you that you needed to be pointing us in a different direction if you wanted the wagon - out here in the main thread - when if you had a partner your partner would have told you that in the mafia PT.

And then after I prodded you for a push somewhere else, the case you came back with was hard to follow. Like, I read 687 and was confused, asked for clarification, then was still confused after 689. When again, if you had a partner, you could have someone saying "Push X for Y" helping you come up with a clearer push to make.

All in all, I am getting the feeling that you don't have someone in the background trying to coach you, and I am backing up for a min to see if the things that I was scum reading you for are actually just because you are new -

I will get back to you with how I read you, but now I am questioning it enough that I am not sure that I want you to be at E-1.

[fferyllt]

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