Situation Room [Game Over!]

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm gunna put up Okapoka as the second plotter.
Not scum per se, but definitely plotting something.
Look at that chicken avatar. The mind of a criminal resides within.

do u have proper reads

[GuiltyLion]

@Hypo - I haven't posted much at all since then as I wasn't looking at this game for the past 30+ hours or however long it's been and I'm not caught up yet, so that tracks. hi Ydrasse I did not know it was you!

[northsidegal]

Votecount 1.21

Target	Wagon
Save The Dragons (3)	Bingle (261), Dannflor (305), Qoobee (336)
Solo (2)	Dusa (238), GuiltyLion (258)
Dannflor (2)	Yuri Gagarin (571), Solo (607)
LavarManos (1)	FakeGod (420)
FakeGod (1)	Gamma Emerald (289)
Cupcake Butterfly (1)	UNOwen (363)
Qoobee (1)	Save The Dragons (433)
Yuri Gagarin (1)	Bell (502)
Not Voting (5)	OkaPoka, Cupcake Butterfly, DrippingGoofball, LavarManos, Hypothermia (415)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-25 19:26:59).

[Gamma Emerald]

like honestly I could picture the "you're plotting something" line being a substitute for legitimate scumhunting

[Bell]

I'm gunna put up Okapoka as the second plotter.
Not scum per se, but definitely plotting something.
Look at that chicken avatar. The mind of a criminal resides within.

do u have proper reads

Not really. Besides qoobie everybody has a reason to be scum and a reason to be town. Whilst cliche I do think solo’s consistent pacing says he’s probably town though, even I’m a little weirded out by his eclectic reads list.

[Solo]

The sections weren't ordered btw

[Yuri Gagarin]

what do you mean by "consistent pacing"?

[Bell]

I don’t feel like they’re ever really letting the game breathe or watching and waiting. Their timing seems to be without much of an agenda and they’ve slowly built up impressions one post response at a time.

[Gamma Emerald]

Taking different approach, max 10 words allowed per post

uhhhh shit
have you done this before?

[Yuri Gagarin]

I don't get why you TR something that's just derivative of how much time they have available to play

like that feels NAI to me not knowing anything else about them and idg how you're going further than that without meta

[Gamma Emerald]

My thought for Gamma as scum still is like, scum!Gamma doesn’t know how to reply or opts to ignore it and gets some more pressure and sees people say look how he doesn’t care and he takes that as advice immediately and continues being aloof but still around because people don’t expect that from scum!him and like, why not do what gets him good reads.

I...don't like how it feels like you're tuning out Dann's read on me, especially given your proximity to his meta example

[Yuri Gagarin]

Alternatively, I guess it could just be scum!Gamma not knowing how to engage with “stronger” players on his wagon yet but that more than anything is where I feel I’d be uncharitable. But it was the thing that pinged me in this game so far.

Take a quick look at my join date and tell me whether you think is valid

I mean based on what I remember of your scumgame I wouldn't say it's invalid

any comment on this @gamma

[Yuri Gagarin]

tentatively liking FG but I have no baseline for him which makes me less-than-super-confident in that until there's more actual game to look at

[Gamma Emerald]

something about their vote on me just seems kind of forced it's mostly a gut read

why is the best thing you can muter to explain your reads this game "their content feels forced"

[FakeGod]

Anyway, if we're talking about responses that make people feel unwelcome, how about FakeGod voting my expression of excitement at getting to play with him? That comes off as a distinct "go fuck yourself" to me, how about you?

you voted me, I voted you back

apparently by doing so I told you to "go fuck yourself" and it made you feel unwelcome, and now you're throwing a tantrum

this be a game of mafia; you do realize how ridiculous you're being right now

[Solo]

Taking different approach, max 10 words allowed per post

uhhhh shit
have you done this before?

Potentially

[Gamma Emerald]

Alternatively, I guess it could just be scum!Gamma not knowing how to engage with “stronger” players on his wagon yet but that more than anything is where I feel I’d be uncharitable. But it was the thing that pinged me in this game so far.

Take a quick look at my join date and tell me whether you think is valid

I mean based on what I remember of your scumgame I wouldn't say it's invalid

any comment on this @gamma

I mean I kinda misread the post anyway
but I think we both have potentially valid opinions

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyway, if we're talking about responses that make people feel unwelcome, how about FakeGod voting my expression of excitement at getting to play with him? That comes off as a distinct "go fuck yourself" to me, how about you?

you voted me, I voted you back

apparently by doing so I told you to "go fuck yourself" and it made you feel unwelcome, and now you're throwing a tantrum

this be a game of mafia; you do realize how ridiculous you're being right now

Do you have no concept of time? Do you not realize how much time existed between your vote and mine? Why are you trying to assert it was in direct response to your vote?
and I don't believe you had anything to say when I had this reaction in SFA so why are you trying to call me out like this now?

[Hypothermia]

Have you seen Dannscum do that charm elsewhere?

I’ve heard whispers of it.

And hearing whispers =/= knowing Dannscum would townread useful players

I made clear I had impressions of Dannflor from what others said of him. Him doing that fits into my mental landscape of Dann as active scum; not brute force but manipulation over time.

[Yuri Gagarin]

you should vote dannflor with me

let me carry you, young one

[FakeGod]

Do you have no concept of time? Do you not realize how much time existed between your vote and mine? Why are you trying to assert it was in direct response to your vote?
and I don't believe you had anything to say when I had this reaction in SFA so why are you trying to call me out like this now?

no, you're whining that I voted you

you got pissed and voted me, then called me out in 594 telling everyone I told you to go fuck yourself

[Hypothermia]

Even if people do OMGUS when someone basically calls you annoying to the point you need to die (whether or not he had other motives) it makes you feel like shit. And who wants to interact with that?

Before I dive into this, I want to make clear that after I figured out Dusa's deal I was FINE.
Anyway, if we're talking about responses that make people feel unwelcome, how about FakeGod voting my expression of excitement at getting to play with him? That comes off as a distinct "go fuck yourself" to me, how about you?

To me it didn’t; when I read it, it felt like a ironic/joke vote. I’m sorry that it genuinely made you feel unwelcome though, I didn’t get that vibe from the interaction when it happened.

[Hypothermia]

you should vote dannflor with me

let me carry you, young one

Who is this for.

[Yuri Gagarin]

you

[Hypothermia]

My thought for Gamma as scum still is like, scum!Gamma doesn’t know how to reply or opts to ignore it and gets some more pressure and sees people say look how he doesn’t care and he takes that as advice immediately and continues being aloof but still around because people don’t expect that from scum!him and like, why not do what gets him good reads.

I...don't like how it feels like you're tuning out Dann's read on me, especially given your proximity to his meta example

You cut out the part where I acknowledged his read as one I liked, which ultimately takes precedent over my tinfoiling which for however wrong it could be, I want to lay out.

I want to be /right/ when I scumread someone but I got where Dann was coming from on you and it made more sense at that point.