Situation Room [Game Over!]

[OkaPoka]

or in other words i dont believe u

why do you think I lie about my emotions here
like, I'm pretty much one of the most honest people when it comes to laying my emotions out in terms of mafia games

that was directed more at yuri but i suppose it could be applied to you in the sense that i think your reaction to fakegod is a little too extreme, don't know what to make of that tho

[OkaPoka]

oh. i should probably read before posting

[OkaPoka]

look to be clear i feel like i enjoy scum a lot, in a different way yes, but i have fun with both alignments

i have been told by people who have successfully read me in the past that i have a different type of energy as town. ive been given a multitude of descriptors of this and because of the efficacy of these reads, i do think that there is some truth to it. i don't know the full extent of it because if i did the tell would be gone but ive been told and demonstrated that there is a something that exists in my town game that isn't all there in my scum game no matter how much i try to replicate it

[OkaPoka]

im sad that bingle things lowly of my mech suggestions but i do agree now that perhaps solo's readslist is a little strange

[OkaPoka]

bell/hypothermia/bingle/guilty = perhaps townie?
dann/solo/yuri/cupcake = perhaps scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

bell/hypothermia/bingle/guilty = perhaps townie?
dann/solo/yuri/cupcake = perhaps scummy?

I wanna hear more about guilty and cupcake because for me they’re kinda UtR

[OkaPoka]

what does utr mean to you?

[GuiltyLion]

Gamma probably is town for how early his wagon stalled out, I think if this was a wagon on scum; scum would probably have piled on harder to maintain some semblance of control over the first hood.

This feels reachy and possibly made up to me - do you think Gamma was at especially good odds of being eliminated? And do you think scum are necessarily going to commit to a bus early when any of them get wagoned?

Top Tier Townreads:

Oka Poka, DGB, Dannflor

Second Tier Townreads:

Bell, Hypothermia, Gamma Emerald, Bingle, Yuri G, Unowen

Bubble Territory:

Fakegod, Dusa(If this is Isis she gets a ticket to the next level and maybe top tier)

I also don't particularly like this readslist. I'm still in the process of reading, but at this point in the game I don't see any of Oka/DGB/Dannflor as especially top town, they are all experienced players and nothing any of them had done yet is beyond a capable scumrange. Also feels strange that DGB's one given scumread was Bell but Qoobee has Bell as a townread and no dissonance about top townread DGB scumreading them. It's also just holistically a lot of townreads on the generally more active players in a game where there's 5 scum, I don't see any suspicion towards active players trying to be townread/take Leadership Roles and it's decidedly not confrontational

also, why not move your vote from Gamma at this stage?

[GuiltyLion]

Really, Dusa? You have no opinion on anything I've posted since my first few posts?

I like this post, feels more likely to be an indignant townie than manipulative scum

UNVOTE:

[Dannflor]

I like this post, feels more likely to be an indignant townie than manipulative scum

mmm why

[Dannflor]

and why are those the only two options

[GuiltyLion]

well town and scum are the only two options

he's challenging Dusa that she hasn't responded to anything he's said. I think scum on the whole are a little more-selfconscious to do that, especially since what he had done between her vote and that post wasn't really all that radically town in nature. So I think it's more likely he

is

town and genuinely a lil frustrated Dusa didn't seem to re-evaluate at all

[Gamma Emerald]

Why are indignant and manipulative the descriptors you’ve chosen?

[GuiltyLion]

because if he's town, he's being indignant, and if he's scum, then everything he posts is meant to manipulate

[Gamma Emerald]

Can you explain the “how” of those?

[OkaPoka]

but doesnt Schrodinger tell us they can be both simultaneously town and scum until he is observed?

[OkaPoka]

THEY* (idk)

[GuiltyLion]

Town:
Bell, Guiltylion for good reason i think

Oka why did you have me as town here

p-edit: Gamma I'm not really following your question, I think my last post is pretty clear. He's projecting frustration at Dusa seemingly not re-evaluating him on the basis of his recent posts. If he's town, that's genuine indignance. If he's scum, he knows she's right and is trying to manipulate her away from voting him / into townreading him. What are you not understanding?

[OkaPoka]

meta reasons from my recollection of you that might have been slightly undermined recently but ehh

[Gamma Emerald]

Schrödinger’s cat was actually originally satirical iirc
I don’t recall the actual meaning but I know it wasn’t meant to be used as it is these days

[Gamma Emerald]

Town:
Bell, Guiltylion for good reason i think

Oka why did you have me as town here

p-edit: Gamma I'm not really following your question, I think my last post is pretty clear. He's projecting frustration at Dusa seemingly not re-evaluating him on the basis of his recent posts. If he's town, that's genuine indignance. If he's scum, he knows she's right and is trying to manipulate her away from voting him / into townreading him. What are you not understanding?

That actually helped significantly

[GuiltyLion]

for completeness sake I guess there is the third scenario of S-S, in which case he is manipulating all the rest of us into thinking they are not aligned

[Dannflor]

schrodinger's deepwolf

okay logging off until after I eat and can actually wrap my head around this game

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll say you do feel like town for that thought process GL

[GuiltyLion]

Look i just want to do two things, avoid the existence of a 6th neighborhood and have one good neighborhood and so im just thinking how best to play around these two necessities. Mechanics is boring but its necessary unless we are so confident that we can just chain lim scum

I've been largely ignoring mech talk because I don't think it's really possible to do a lot at this stage (the Herding Votes Problem, as it were), but if we want a good neighborhood, shouldn't we just wait until the 3rd or 4th day or so and then try to arrange at that point? We'll have a few flips and wagons and a sense of what the other neighborhoods are by that stage, I'm not seeing why we should care about this on D1