Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[catboi]

We still need to sort the top group but I think the bottom is in order. I’m thinking notty/dwlee late, Shea ircher flea ss early. Combination of mech skill and scumminess leading to the earlyness. Fairly confident in the order of the second group.

catboi
Ircher
14. not science
16. Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
19. Chara - wherever we put it in the list is where LLD answers why it’s outside of the 10. If the answer is “mechanics” claim happens after LLD.
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart


2. Dunnstral - my strongest tokay based tr.
13. WhemeStar - mostly claimed.
10. Bell - Assuming still confident on Bell readability.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - claim largely irrelevant to townread.
8. Sigmund
23. Bingle Last
1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) Not Massclaiming.

I'm mostly here although given mech knowledge I feel like S_S role is pretty much assumed in the open, at least partially, so him going absolutely first is no big loss. Would personally go order of...

S_S --> Fark --> Sheaslot --> Flea -->Dwlee -->Notsci -->Chara (mostly because of tie to the LLD stuffsies)

Then

Dunn -->Wheme--->Bell-->LLD-->Sigmund-->You.

Our claim is obviously not going to be majorly needed, we haven't chipped at anyone and we've already claimed who visited us and when, and who we targeted each night, but not with what.

Would prefer first round be "Damage done per night, and character name" and then we evaluate moving on to round two from there. Getting character names locked in GREATLY shrinks the fake claim pool down to stuff that the character could conceivably have. And yeah, it's not perfect and scum can probably still true claim, but it's still a perimeter fence we can put up.

"You appear to have omitted my name, as well as Sir Ircher's. I feel most unwelcome."

[morph the cat]

I'm leaving you two up to the OG mod confirmed, as my sempai I have to give him SOME choices.

We'll dance after massclaim goes down. Got our fancy 4-pack of laced shoes and everything.

[Something_Smart]

I feel like S_S role is pretty much assumed in the open, at least partially, so him going absolutely first is no big loss.

There's an important part of it that isn't. And, I've already full claimed to my neighbor. So you can take that into account if you want.

[Dwlee99]

If we are doing multiple rounds of massclaim we should probably get going with the first round which sounds like damage done + flavor. I disagree with claiming damage that we have done to people because scum can use that info to make people die in an optimal way.

[morph the cat]

If we are doing multiple rounds of massclaim we should probably get going with the first round which sounds like damage done + flavor. I disagree with claiming damage that we have done to people because scum can use that info to make people die in an optimal way.

80% of it is out in the open and we need to assume that it's somewhat obvious, given they know who is town and hasn't claimed, by just looking at their reads?

[Dwlee99]

Mm I guess so but this is making their jobs much easier whereas I'm not sure if as scum I'd be compiling people's reads + guessing their damage amount + running calculations on it. And they still wouldn't know which of the scumreads we are shooting.

[catboi]

[A bespectacled man...A magician of some sort?]

"Sir, I seek an explanation of why you are 'fine' with eliminating the faerie one while admitting to not having read faer's isolated Journal entries. What makes you consider this acceptable, then?"

[Flea The Magician]

Korn - Coming Undone

Spoiler: Keep holding on

i appreciate you, person.

and i like the flavour here.

VOTE: Flea

pedit: not to Ircher. i'm happy to be right about Titus, not happy she's dead.

*Scritches*

OK, so...

I think Sigmund is scum

So do I, but why do you?

I feel like there may have been some fuckery with the actions stratum 0 with the Sigmund counterclaim but also Sigmund does a bunch of stupid gambity stuff as scum and I don't want to let him get away with it.

Counterclaim?

Spoiler: When my brain's tickin' like a bomb

I feel like there may have been some fuckery with the actions stratum 0 with the Sigmund counterclaim but also Sigmund does a bunch of stupid gambity stuff as scum and I don't want to let him get away with it.

remind me of who counterclaimed Sigmund?

By "Sigmund counterclaim" I mean "Sigmund said Murdercat was lying and that he visited him stratum 0"

OH yeah that.

Why thestatusquo? I think he has had some good takes this game. On the other hand, it's clear my reads are really bad this game.

Changed my mind. Catboi is the easier elimination and just very likely to be scum.

Bell... are you trying to escape trusttell territory on your scum game?

I attacked you (catboi) because your slot was a lurker slot with high scum equity.

I felt my read on Titus was stronger though and more worthy of the vig shot. Obviously, I am wrong about that.

So you attacked and killed? Wow. Give me a heads up if you're turnin on me will ya? I wanna at least go down fighting.

I agree that a town kitty is very useful though. I like catboi and think he's a good town player.
It's just that the basics tell me at least one scum was off both wagons and that replace outs are more likely to be scum than not. It's not a complicated read. But I find it very likely to be accurate.

Bell... you realise you set that standard, right? (love you really <3) :3

Spoiler: Guess the black thoughts have come Again to get me

Why thestatusquo? I think he has had some good takes this game. On the other hand, it's clear my reads are really bad this game.

Changed my mind. Catboi is the easier elimination and just very likely to be scum.

VOTE: catboi

Alright then. My claim offer still stands; however, I'm probably not doing it if I'm only asked by one or two people.

pedit: They aren't always, but there's a good correlation.

"Why is it that you suspect me of Villainy? I've only just joined the party and have no record of your journey, was it something the

「WHITE FIRE」

did?"

I am loving this gimmick, just sayin <3

I agree that a town kitty is very useful though. I like catboi and think he's a good town player.
It's just that the basics tell me at least one scum was off both wagons and that replace outs are more likely to be scum than not. It's not a complicated read. But I find it very likely to be accurate.

"Are you...familiar with the pup of fire at all? Because such reasoning should hardly hold weight to those with any passing knowledge of his tendencies. Further, why is the lack of vote from

「WHITE FIRE」

on a wagon a sign of villainy when they appear to have gone totally absent from the game? The argument seems tenuous at best."

Given the Fire Pupper was always coming to me for scritches I'm surprised they were on any wagon.

I agree that a town kitty is very useful though. I like catboi and think he's a good town player.
It's just that the basics tell me at least one scum was off both wagons and that replace outs are more likely to be scum than not. It's not a complicated read. But I find it very likely to be accurate.

"Are you...familiar with the pup of fire at all? Because such reasoning should hardly hold weight to those with any passing knowledge of his tendencies. Further, why is the lack of vote from

「WHITE FIRE」

on a wagon a sign of villainy when they appear to have gone totally absent from the game? The argument seems tenuous at best."

So, you're attacking my argument.

This is generally how mafia works Bell

Spoiler: Sweet little words

Bingle tier: Bingle

town: Dwlee99, notscience, Bell
towny: WhemeStar
town...ish: Thestatusquo, catboi

Chara is bad at this tier (aka the Pool of Paranoia): Lady Lambdadelta, Dunnstral, Morph the Cat

Ircher tier: Ircher (really in scummy leftovers but i'm having an episode)

null: Sigmund (poised to go lower), Something_Smart

scummy leftovers: Farkran, Flea The Magician

I don't recall you ever really saying why I'm a leftover. You probably have but ya know, memory is an utter mess rn.

I was just making something ridiculous up to pressure the new person on entry. Well, except for the other reason, since rep outs, are, you already know, more likely to be scum.
I do this pretty frequently.

*spits tea*

So.

We are the result of the multiple locks. Stand by.

*Grabs popcorn*

Spoiler: Unlike nothing I have heard

We submitted a bodyguard ability on Artemis last night, and the mod failed to process this action. If things had gone exactly as locked in, we'd be dead flipped confirmed town right now, and Mara-timis would be screaming her cop result from the rooftops.

Instead, we have been told that the mod will explicitly confirm this error and that we have permission to make this post, and the game will proceed with that confirmation.

It's the best we can do :/

Owch Unless she was sitting on 4SP though I doubt she would've had a cop result. I picked up her crumb of visiting me anyway so I made sure I had SP for her.

You realize that's not gonna happen, right? The temptation is too great.

If my hyperactive impulsive ass can not pick up my weapon, I'm pretty sure the rest of you lot can.

i'm still dangling the Flea wagon and looking for bites.

pedit: god, i forgot Ircher killed STD too. Ircher, please stop killing my townreads. how did this happen twice?

Because it's not gunna happen and you know its bad, what other wagons are you looking at or are you just kinda locked and loaded on me?

Spoiler: Sing along mocking bird

I am assuming mafia all has chip-away powers as well as their factional btw. Which means we should assume multiple kills a night because fuck us that's why.

Town needs to fucking sit on their hands and stop taking potshots at each other.

Is there benefit to all claiming who we've shot at so far?

Like, tell mafia who's lost HP?

My initial reaction is fuck no.

absosmegginglutly not.

I'm glad morph is confirmed town. That makes my life easier.
I can just sheep them for the res of the game and blame them if we lose.

Bell, are you nibbling on the tree by any chance?

Bingle's town, Notty's town.
I don't really think LLD is scum.

Are we in melo?

You're definitely nibbling something o.o

1.

Morph the Cat

(fferyllt/Cabd). town.
2. Dunnstral
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
5. Lady Lambdadelta
6. jjh927 Ircher
8. Sigmund
10.

Bell.

Town.
13. WhemeStar
14.

notscience

. Town.
16. Guillotina Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
19. Chara
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
23.

Bingle

. Town.
24. Something_Smart.

Is there a purpose to this?
Never mind, saw the edit.

I'm going to bed, I hate my reads this game.

Did you get overtired Bell? That would explain a lot :3

Spoiler: You don't affect me

Cabd-head reads:

{

Bingle

,

Artemiana

, Sigmund,

Titus

}
{LLD, Bell}
{notscience,

MurderCat

, dwlee}
{

NDMath

, Catboi, Thestatusquo, Flea, Dunnstral }
{Flea, Ircher, Farkran }
{Whemestar, S_S, Chara}

You fuckers don't get to touch sigmund.

I've lost too many townreads to stupid fucking play.

We're confirmed town and I intend to go out in a blaze of glory today, we are NOT eliminating town.

ngl I still dislike Sigmund - that said Dunn's latest shenangians have me seriously questioning that read.

given Sigmund's testimony contradicted murdercat's, i'm still willing to give Wheme the benefit of the doubt.

pedit: i still think Flea is scum. this read has been strengthened by the deaths.

Do... do you need some cuddles? I'm in like every post you make, you're getting as bad as Dunn and White Fire lol

shoot Flea tonight and i'm happy, Ircher.

Oooh do it I wanna use my shiny

i'm pretty terrible at casing, but i do believe pretty strongly Flea is scum. i think faer Sigmund read in particular feels very faked.

OK you have chosen to enter the Cosmic realms, noted. Post coming later.

[morph the cat]

Massclaim format, part I:

Please use this template, it'll make life easier to string things together and track it all.

Player Name (Charater Class/ Role PM name)

Night 0 attack: XYZ for 1 Damage
Night 1 attack: XYZ for 2 Damage
Night 2 Attack: No Damage Dealt

S_S? All you bud.

[Dwlee99]

Can you also post the order?

[morph the cat]

I'm going to be around and such stating the order but yeah it's:

S_S --> Fark --> Shea's slot --> Flea -->Dwlee -->Notsci -->Chara -->Ircher -->Catboi --> Dunn -->Wheme --->Bell-->LLD-->Sigmund-->Bingle--> Morph

Don't need any data other than the name and night damage claims for now, in this round.

[Something_Smart]

Something_Smart (Troubador)

Night 0 attack: No Damage Dealt
Night 1 attack: No Damage Dealt
Night 2 Attack: No Damage Dealt

[Ircher]

Attacks weren't a thing for N0, so I think we can omit that.

[Bell]

UNVOTE:

Lmk when it's my turn. My brain's on fire. So I'm taking a break from thinking.

[Chara]

@Flea - i'd happily take a response from you and general hunting/some more reads as you catch up if you're up for it, if you're town and want to get me to fix my read.

[morph the cat]

Fark is up next, por favor, and then we're in a holding pattern pending the replace in.

[Chara]

shea was already replaced, by T3.

[Flea The Magician]

Spoiler: That's right

I do think Flea is way more likely to be scum based off of:

Other unrelated scumreads flipping town and needing someone to be mafia this game
Their insistence that they were being tunneled when they weren't
Their play yesterday fitting with scum who sees two town players getting wagoned

So your reasoning iiiiis....
You need a scum read, you're miscontruing what I've said, and my D2 dayplay was weaker than balls. Good case.

I am tunnelled on Sigmund, I know I am, I am trying to break it. Nobody is tunnelled on me, and I don't recall saying anything like that D2.

My play yesterday was due to being massively dissociated due to IRL reasons. I'm fully back at this today now the major event has passed.

Yeah I'm asking if anyone has a neighborhood pt at all.

Nay.

I do think Flea is way more likely to be scum based off of:

Other unrelated scumreads flipping town and needing someone to be mafia this game
Their insistence that they were being tunneled when they weren't
Their play yesterday fitting with scum who sees two town players getting wagoned

i'm in agreement with this. it's partially a poe read, but it has to do with faer play not being believably town, and in particular the mentions of being tunneled on Sigmund have felt very self aware and not like town who is actually on a read they're wondering is town.

also i'm working on the claims post. and i don't have a hood.

Thing is, when you're aware your read is locked on a player and you cannot shift that read at all, no matter how you look at it even if you want to try and give a player another chance as they seem to be UTR'd, I am mentally tunnelled and holding myself back because it's going to probably waste my time and energy which is in incredibly short supply right now, trying to do something that isn't going to happen.

Yes I'm self-aware, it's called spoon and spell slot management.
Why'd you think there was a lack of me catching up D2? Because I fucking had none.

Spoiler: Deliver it to my heart

We still need to sort the top group but I think the bottom is in order. I’m thinking notty/dwlee late, Shea ircher flea ss early. Combination of mech skill and scumminess leading to the earlyness. Fairly confident in the order of the second group.

catboi
Ircher
14. not science
16. Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
19. Chara - wherever we put it in the list is where LLD answers why it’s outside of the 10. If the answer is “mechanics” claim happens after LLD.
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart


2. Dunnstral - my strongest tokay based tr.
13. WhemeStar - mostly claimed.
10. Bell - Assuming still confident on Bell readability.
5. Lady Lambdadelta - claim largely irrelevant to townread.
8. Sigmund
23. Bingle Last
1. Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) Not Massclaiming.

I'm good with this.

I'm fine with yeeting flea I think but also haven't read faer ISO.

orly, how come? Like without reading ISO what's making you good with this?

Spoiler: Please strike

I got nothin.

Spoiler: Be deliberate

If we are doing multiple rounds of massclaim we should probably get going with the first round which sounds like damage done + flavor. I disagree with claiming damage that we have done to people because scum can use that info to make people die in an optimal way.

Seconded, we do not claim damage done to who at all.

@Flea - i'd happily take a response from you and general hunting/some more reads as you catch up if you're up for it, if you're town and want to get me to fix my read.

Your read honestly doesn't bother me that much, it amuses me more than anything because you're like a chiwahawa. Just kinda there barking at me doing little else. What I do want to do, is sort you at this point. Your persistance has gained my gaze, and now I need to decide if I throw treats or just push you away.

[Farkran]

Farkran (LANDSKNECHT)

Night 0 attack: No Damage Dealt
Night 1 attack: 1 or 2 damage to White Fire, pending mod answer about action order
Night 2 Attack: 2 damage to NDMath

[Flea The Magician]

Chara we'll hold off our visit to the cosmic realms until massclaim is done <3

[catboi]

Farkran (LANDSKNECHT)

Night 0 attack: No Damage Dealt
Night 1 attack: 1 or 2 damage to White Fire, pending mod answer about action order
Night 2 Attack: 2 damage to NDMath

Well I know the answer to that one already. （；¬＿¬)

[morph the cat]

T3 then. Por favor.

[notscience]

I’ll claim but I will have to point to crumbs later

[notscience]

And obv I’ll follow Order bc I’m a good noodle

[Dwlee99]

orly, how come? Like without reading ISO what's making you good with this?

PoE + gut