Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[morph the cat]

All of these reads ARE in order, the higher within each tier, the stronger the town read.

Touch Not a Single Hair On Their Heads

Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Mod Confirmed

Bingle - Mod Confirmed

notscience - You will literally never convince us out of this read; meta, tone, style, the way our crumbing dance went, the way Mara's claim went down around him nodding at it

Bell - For {Bell_Alignment} get {postcount}. If {postcount}>50/Day -->Town; else-->Scum

Sigmund - Day One Wagon Compositions. Bravado in throwing down with scum on this list. Claim fits ours like yin and yang.

Break This Glass In Case of Lack of Endgame After The Lower Tiers All Die

Dunnstral - If Dunn is scum this game, he has not just like, ridden the bus, or driven the bus, he has become the metaphysical concept of all buses that have ever existed at any point in the universe. He probably should be a tier higher but eh. Not his style. He'd also be working harder to get our attention.

Dwlee99 - I fully admit this read is based more upon the meta tells of his predecessor. Guillo has a few tonal markers we look for and expect, and he hit all of them with not just a pass, but a pass with flying colors. Dwlee has done nothing but improve our opinion of the slot since.

Chara - Chara has been wavering in ours reads list a lot. That said, the TSQ slot scum-claiming rockets them all the way to up here. I would be incredibly shocked if Chara is scum with TSQ, and this game doesn't have traitors per the public alignment counts, so there ya go. There have been a LOT of points recently, mostly in day three, that ffery and I found ourselves cheering for a Chara post.

Ircher - Ircher is most likely a vig here. I don't really think that scum has chip damage, a factional kill, AND an extra kill. That said, Ircher's continued stubbornness while once endearing has started to grate hard, and it's unlikely but NOT impossible that scum did have some sort of gates extrakill.

POE Murder List Winners

WhemeStar - his level of caginess given what he's shared about his role just doesn't make sense. He's hit a lot of town notes, but he hasn't really taken stands on players. He's expressed paranoia about the usual "scary" players, basically.

Lady Lambdadelta - ~takes cover~ It's just hard to see people above as less town than she's been, and it's also hard to fit their shapes into a team with our other scumreads. She just feels like the puzzle piece that snaps the whole picture together. LLD is one of those reads that short of mod clears, belongs in contention until the game is over only as an acknowledgement that she is WAY capable of busing every single one of the fools unlucky enough to draw red with her right to the very end. Last episode's LLD-Scum sighting had her publicly obtain a dayvig and shoot her partner in the face with it for cred.

Farkran - The big thing we like about Farkran is how he's interacted with us given our speculations about his role, etc. The question this game is not "Does the neighborhood have scum in it" but "does the neighborhood have town in it?" Farkan's alignment hangs in the balance. I am assuming that the troubadour in scum-SS confers buffs and potentially protection to the pairing, and that might be worthy of using on an ally for the WIFOM and the gains. It would also be useful for assuring a townread from a townie, though!

catboi - the stacking damage role info sounds more like a scum ability to me, especially as compared to mara's SP steal. I empathize strongly with the anger/irritation about the role not being made clear enough. I also feel like scum learning they'd used those abilities suboptimally would be super-pissed and able to channel some of that salt into a "town" roleclaim. The way he went about it though, feels town to me. I'm extremely conflicted.

Murder On the Merits of Scummy

T3 - Playing to scum meta, basically. We had mild but growing concerns about Shea on day 1/2, and initially thought the replace-out could have been a town-replace, but T3's play has put that thought to rest. Cabd has been his mod AND played against scum-him recently.


Flea the Magician - severe lack of interaction/acknowledgement of most of the game happenings. day 1 wagon hijinks. mostly meaningless catchups (see first point) See also: Deathcurse Regigigas but then keeps being useless after meta.


Something_Smart - lack of thread health maintenance, didn't chime in re all the troubadour discussion with notsci and speculation about a troubadour neighborhood (in contrast to the neighbor), pushes on us have felt both tentative and opportunistic, like shopping our vulnerability to the rest of the players and being noiser about it when others were expressing concerns about us. neuter and spayhalf gutvibes. Something_Smart is this game's Dandelion Wine, and I'm going to let Dunn do here what he SHOULD have done to Cephrir and I.

[morph the cat]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something_Smart

SYNC MOTHERFUCKING ACHIEVED

[Ircher]

Well the good news is I'm not gonna survive to end game. Either scum is going to get rid od me by chip damage or town is.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

are you fucking kidding me morph

[Lady Lambdadelta]

honestly please kill me first instead so we can lose this game now instead of 2 months from now so i don't have to deal with this bullshit

[Bell]

VOTE: S_S

Bahhh

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: LLD

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Seriously get me out.

I'm not playing a game where we kill a bunch of scum and some town and end up in like fucking endgame and people go "well the morph list says kill LLD" and I have to yell to the heavens for a month only to lose the game.

Get.
Me.
Out.

[Bell]

Morph's gunna die in 2 nights and you'll have plenty of time to convince us he's wrong then.
Hell, with me, you won't even need to convince. I just think you're town.

[Ircher]

Are we good for ending the day? Please be explicit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The problem, bell, is Sigmun and Notty are in the green tier and I'm in the orange tier and that's a game loss

so I'd like to lose the game now please

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like

I gave you a list of people to kill to win the game.

I agree with the red list wholeheartedly. It's either 2 or 3 scum on it, every time.

But then we get to orange and i feel like we don't have both scum in there, we may not even have 1 scum in there and if we do it's dangerous

[Bell]

The problem, bell, is Sigmun and Notty are in the green tier and I'm in the orange tier and that's a game loss

so I'd like to lose the game now please

Notty migh make it to end game bu if sigmund does he scum team deserves to lose and I have no idea how they got this far.
Well, I do. Kill happy town.

[Bingle]

I’d be lying if I said I was excited for any read but my own

I'm excited for every read but my own.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Morph's list probably looks like it wins the game for 2-3 days, then slowly loses the game and people wonder whatever happened to their poor won game and then 2 months later oops scum in the green and yellow.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I'm seriously so pissed off that Morph called us town for days, asked me for my opinion, then promised me it wasn't a read test and we were town and then

IGNROED MY OPINION AND DID THIS SHIT ANYWAY

[Lady Lambdadelta]

THE EXACT THING

I ASKED THEM NOT TO DO

WAS TO MAKE ME PUT EFFORT INTO THIS SHIT AND THEN JUST GO "LOL LLD" AND IGNORE ME

AND I GOT HARD IGNORED

[Lady Lambdadelta]

so fuck it, kill me first

if morph wants to risk this game on me being scum we do it today

I'm not dealing with this shit when they're dead

[morph the cat]

We're absolutely not saying don't ever reevaluate our list.

We certainly will reevaluate.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We're absolutely not saying don't ever reevaluate our list.

We certainly will reevaluate.

nah shut up for a minute

you got scum and then you got PoE and then you got start killign this when the PoE runs out

that's the definition of don't reevaluate

[Bell]

Well, I don’t agree and think you’ll be fine lld.
There’s a lot of dead people between now and when you’re going to get suspected.

[catboi]

i lied

i can't pull myself away from the website

i'm an addict

anyway i get why you think my role sounds scummy

but like

i'd never bother claiming it this way as scum

i'd just make something else up

and i feel like that should be obvious




but i joined this game to mess around and have fun and this game has suddenly become very much not that in the past few hours

so rather than waste my time continuing to try to read all 200 pages

just stack damage on me tonight so i can die and flip town and get out of here



i have 3 hp left, go figure out who you want to murder me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, I don’t agree and think you’ll be fine lld.
There’s a lot of dead people between now and when you’re going to get suspected.

and were I scum I would hold the same confidence you do

but I'm not and I can't control the kills

which means the people who want me dead will be spared and the ones who think I'm town will eat bullets.

And we'll end up in this fucking situation.

[Ircher]

What is the difference between null scum and neutral scum, ircher?

Null is generally a very weak read whereas neutral is for mixed reads. In some cases, neutral is also used for somewhat weak reads.

Ircher: notscience (?)

notscience deals 1 damage; pretty sure this has been mentioned several times.

I am a shaman

You’re boring.

Why were you against claiming?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like you and Bingle both have me as hard town Bell but guess who is fucking dying lol