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Post Post #6350 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:17 pm

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In post 6335, morph the cat wrote:I dunno, I feel like there's a certain urgency to the situation given that town players are getting riddled with holes in the night. Two day elims and FIVE night deaths before day 3.

Is there anything compelling about this gamestate you want to dig into?
Actually, what I said about there being nothing like the Tayl0r case in this game isn't entirely true. That was kind of how I felt when NDMath claimed an implausible role (and it seems like he misread it? so I was right that what he claimed didn't make sense).

The reason I bring this up is that my gamestate view has basically been turned upside down since yesterday, with MC and NDMath especially flipping town, and you getting confirmed and solidly taking the town leader position that I wasn't comfortable with you having before.

So in terms of the gamestate... the blunt answer is I don't know, and I think that all in all your reads are probably way more accurate than mine would be, even though you are wrong about me (and Farkran). But, I understand that the act of trying to solve can make one's alignment clear even if the actual solving isn't very useful. Is there anything in particular you want to hear my opinions on? I know that you asked what I wanted to talk about, but what I really want to talk about is stuff that we can actually have a productive conversation on.
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Post Post #6351 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:19 pm

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Why is he wrong about farkran?
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Post Post #6352 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:20 pm

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In post 6318, Chara wrote:i feel like SS has been pretty... helpful, all game? he chimes in on mech, he offers commentary, pretty sure he's been asking questions and trying to make things understandable, at one point i definitely compared him to a helpful college classmate you offer to buy coffee for.
Can you quote an instance? I don't remember him doing anything memorable this game.
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Post Post #6353 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:21 pm

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In post 6345, notscience wrote:Maybe it’s just my memory of the nacho wagon but it was very much a “deal with the big fish scum first” snd I feel like that got echoed some by skitter snd s few others

Maybe I’m just gunshy in general after that game. Like it’s not that I doubt you two, I just want to be sure this time snd I feel like that’s not a real possibility.

I’ll try to reread her myself and see what I come to.
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Post Post #6354 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:22 pm

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Helloooooooo large theme!

I really shouldn't be in this large theme but the temptation was too much. I've been eyeing this game since so long ago wanting a spot and now I finally see a spot and its like I have exams but but Yggdrasil :,(
Anyways, I read like two pages and I'm 95% convinced Morph is scum with LLD. Their convo seems way too overly dramatic which is my only reservation given I dont know if scum would try hard their ass off to that extent. But I mean its Cabd and LLD in a large theme. I don't see why not. I probably messed up SRing Cabd right off the bat since this is generally a more save it for later once you get into the game type of read since Cabdrivers will steamroll my ass with his scum team if he's scum like last time but whatever. I dont really have the time for this game I couldn't stop myself from repping in tho so hopefully I get night killed or something. And uh I will 100% not be reading up so dont even ask. After my exams, if im still alive, I'll try hard this game if im not too brain fried. Uh this game is already moving too fast tbh but I'll try my best and I need to ask unwnd some question about my role pm. Dont worry about me spamming this game. That shouldn't be happening. I'm too busy with ap exams and ya.
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Post Post #6355 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:22 pm

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Reread is on my agenda. Just don’t know when I’ll get to it.

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Post Post #6356 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:23 pm

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In post 6350, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6335, morph the cat wrote:I dunno, I feel like there's a certain urgency to the situation given that town players are getting riddled with holes in the night. Two day elims and FIVE night deaths before day 3.

Is there anything compelling about this gamestate you want to dig into?
Actually, what I said about there being nothing like the Tayl0r case in this game isn't entirely true. That was kind of how I felt when NDMath claimed an implausible role (and it seems like he misread it? so I was right that what he claimed didn't make sense).

The reason I bring this up is that my gamestate view has basically been turned upside down since yesterday, with MC and NDMath especially flipping town, and you getting confirmed and solidly taking the town leader position that I wasn't comfortable with you having before.

So in terms of the gamestate... the blunt answer is I don't know, and I think that all in all your reads are probably way more accurate than mine would be, even though you are wrong about me (and Farkran). But, I understand that the act of trying to solve can make one's alignment clear even if the actual solving isn't very useful. Is there anything in particular you want to hear my opinions on? I know that you asked what I wanted to talk about, but what I really want to talk about is stuff that we can actually have a productive conversation on.
What was going through your mind when we were speculating about a troubadour role, thinking that was what notsci had been crumbing?
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Post Post #6357 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:23 pm

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In post 6344, Bell wrote:S_S what were you thinking when you were asking me about the someone off the wagon must be scum opinion?
I mean, I disapprove of VCA in general and that sounds like the kind of shitty VCA argument that would lead people to bark up the completely wrong tree. But, you don't seem like the kind of person to do that, so I wanted to see if you had an actual reason, and if you did then evaluate it. (And if you didn't, then yell at you.)
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Post Post #6358 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:23 pm

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Noraa with the save. I was really worried morph was town there for a second.
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Post Post #6359 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:24 pm

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Good luck on your exams Noraa.

P.S.: morph is confirmed town.
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Post Post #6360 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:25 pm

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I’m not quite sure why you’d yell at me since the obvious reason would be that I was scum? Have I pulled that far ahead in your reads that you just don’t doubt it at all?
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Post Post #6361 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:26 pm

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Cabd, go on and explain what you think town me would have done will you
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Post Post #6362 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 6347, notscience wrote:At EOD.
That's going to be tricky.

16 players. 5 scum. 9 required to elim.

You think this can work?
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Post Post #6363 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:27 pm

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In post 6362, morph the cat wrote:
In post 6347, notscience wrote:At EOD.
That's going to be tricky.

16 players. 5 scum. 9 required to elim.

You think this can work?
IFF we do a consensus scum read, yes it'll work.
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Post Post #6364 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:27 pm

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In post 6356, morph the cat wrote:What was going through your mind when we were speculating about a troubadour role, thinking that was what notsci had been crumbing?
You mean ? I mean, nothing particularly. You correctly guessed that troubadour was a neighborizer, but I mean I assumed that was just flavor knowledge and the connection being obvious. You knew that you were wrong about notsci just as well as I did, it's not like I had any secret information that was relevant.
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Post Post #6365 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:27 pm

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I honestly would noraa to claim her role.

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Do you really think scum is going to quick hammer me?

We can do four if you’d rather.
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Post Post #6366 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:28 pm

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It's not that; it's ending with no lim that is the concern.
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Post Post #6367 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:29 pm

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No I mean, all we need to do is organize a town quick hammer.

Take the confirmed townies, put everyone who is suspect on T3 or S_S, and have Morph, Bell, Bingle, Notty and... one other? hold their votes.

Put it to 8-1 on T3-Notty

and then have Everyone but 1 person vote for Notty then insta hammer T3.
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Post Post #6368 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:29 pm

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We could just make the scummiest people do it
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Post Post #6369 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 6361, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd, go on and explain what you think town me would have done will you
I think Cabd is done for the night.

But, I think he'd say something to the effect that you would triple down, give your scumreads, and tell him that when you flip town he has to sheep you. Something like that.
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Post Post #6370 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:31 pm

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In post 6368, notscience wrote:We could just make the scummiest people do it
That is a recipe for disaster, no?
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Post Post #6371 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:31 pm

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Would it be a big setback if you only had 4 people on you?

You realize the mafia kill is lethal damage that doesn't care about hp right
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Post Post #6372 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:32 pm

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In post 6369, morph the cat wrote:
In post 6361, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd, go on and explain what you think town me would have done will you
I think Cabd is done for the night.

But, I think he'd say something to the effect that you would triple down, give your scumreads, and tell him that when you flip town he has to sheep you. Something like that.
Sheep.... what

you're gonna be dead before sheeping my reads becomes a thing?

I don't understand.
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Post Post #6373 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:32 pm

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Spoiler: for notsci and only notsci
I also think notscience but I cannot for the life of me tell if that is just my brain's automatic response after Xenoblade which I want to actually say something about.
Totally not game related but recently I met someone somewhat toxic in a game(no shame no shade or anything I truly am not trying to be mean and they aren't here either) and it spurred memories of myself and led to a very long period of thinking. It was incredible how one person's toxicity could ruin an entire game. Afterwards I read some of my old games, one of which was xenoblade and I felt so terrible after reading it. It was like the most painful shit to read in so many different ways and on like multiple different levels.

I just wanted to say that im sorry for what I did to that game. I had an awful time and so did everyone else.
I'll just stop there but I felt this was something I needed to address and seeing notsci did make me feel pretty guilty despite the automatic SR that my brain gave him the moment I saw him. I'll spoiler this. No one else needs to see it.
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Post Post #6374 (ISO) » Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:32 pm

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Did notsci claim what he can do to people who are voting him at EOD? I know he was talking about it being relevant, but I must have missed if he said exactly what it did.
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