Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[Flea The Magician]

Binds have no effect while my armour is up.

[Dunnstral]

What are binds?

[Noraa]

Please explain how unwnd's confirmation of our post that I quoted for you leaves room for us to be scum.

Oh wow I missed the "and we would be confirmed flipped town" part
ugh fine. Yeah that's mod confirmation on straight up alignment. Ok IC, who's scum?

[Noraa]

No worries, we have a lot of damage

Why's S_S scum?

[WhemeStar]

I also kind of want to vote Noraa

[morph the cat]

Please explain how unwnd's confirmation of our post that I quoted for you leaves room for us to be scum.

Oh wow I missed the "and we would be confirmed flipped town" part
ugh fine. Yeah that's mod confirmation on straight up alignment. Ok IC, who's scum?

All of these reads ARE in order, the higher within each tier, the stronger the town read.

Touch Not a Single Hair On Their Heads

Morph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Mod Confirmed

Bingle - Mod Confirmed

notscience - You will literally never convince us out of this read; meta, tone, style, the way our crumbing dance went, the way Mara's claim went down around him nodding at it

Bell - For {Bell_Alignment} get {postcount}. If {postcount}>50/Day -->Town; else-->Scum

Sigmund - Day One Wagon Compositions. Bravado in throwing down with scum on this list. Claim fits ours like yin and yang.

Break This Glass In Case of Lack of Endgame After The Lower Tiers All Die

Dunnstral - If Dunn is scum this game, he has not just like, ridden the bus, or driven the bus, he has become the metaphysical concept of all buses that have ever existed at any point in the universe. He probably should be a tier higher but eh. Not his style. He'd also be working harder to get our attention.

Dwlee99 - I fully admit this read is based more upon the meta tells of his predecessor. Guillo has a few tonal markers we look for and expect, and he hit all of them with not just a pass, but a pass with flying colors. Dwlee has done nothing but improve our opinion of the slot since.

Chara - Chara has been wavering in ours reads list a lot. That said, the TSQ slot scum-claiming rockets them all the way to up here. I would be incredibly shocked if Chara is scum with TSQ, and this game doesn't have traitors per the public alignment counts, so there ya go. There have been a LOT of points recently, mostly in day three, that ffery and I found ourselves cheering for a Chara post.

Ircher - Ircher is most likely a vig here. I don't really think that scum has chip damage, a factional kill, AND an extra kill. That said, Ircher's continued stubbornness while once endearing has started to grate hard, and it's unlikely but NOT impossible that scum did have some sort of gates extrakill.

POE Murder List Winners

WhemeStar - his level of caginess given what he's shared about his role just doesn't make sense. He's hit a lot of town notes, but he hasn't really taken stands on players. He's expressed paranoia about the usual "scary" players, basically.

Lady Lambdadelta - ~takes cover~ It's just hard to see people above as less town than she's been, and it's also hard to fit their shapes into a team with our other scumreads. She just feels like the puzzle piece that snaps the whole picture together. LLD is one of those reads that short of mod clears, belongs in contention until the game is over only as an acknowledgement that she is WAY capable of busing every single one of the fools unlucky enough to draw red with her right to the very end. Last episode's LLD-Scum sighting had her publicly obtain a dayvig and shoot her partner in the face with it for cred.

Farkran - The big thing we like about Farkran is how he's interacted with us given our speculations about his role, etc. The question this game is not "Does the neighborhood have scum in it" but "does the neighborhood have town in it?" Farkan's alignment hangs in the balance. I am assuming that the troubadour in scum-SS confers buffs and potentially protection to the pairing, and that might be worthy of using on an ally for the WIFOM and the gains. It would also be useful for assuring a townread from a townie, though!

catboi - the stacking damage role info sounds more like a scum ability to me, especially as compared to mara's SP steal. I empathize strongly with the anger/irritation about the role not being made clear enough. I also feel like scum learning they'd used those abilities suboptimally would be super-pissed and able to channel some of that salt into a "town" roleclaim. The way he went about it though, feels town to me. I'm extremely conflicted.

Murder On the Merits of Scummy

T3 - Playing to scum meta, basically. We had mild but growing concerns about Shea on day 1/2, and initially thought the replace-out could have been a town-replace, but T3's play has put that thought to rest. Cabd has been his mod AND played against scum-him recently.


Flea the Magician - severe lack of interaction/acknowledgement of most of the game happenings. day 1 wagon hijinks. mostly meaningless catchups (see first point) See also: Deathcurse Regigigas but then keeps being useless after meta.


Something_Smart - lack of thread health maintenance, didn't chime in re all the troubadour discussion with notsci and speculation about a troubadour neighborhood (in contrast to the neighbor), pushes on us have felt both tentative and opportunistic, like shopping our vulnerability to the rest of the players and being noiser about it when others were expressing concerns about us. neuter and spayhalf gutvibes. Something_Smart is this game's Dandelion Wine, and I'm going to let Dunn do here what he SHOULD have done to Cephrir and I.

[Flea The Magician]

What are binds?

No clue. You tell me.

[Flea The Magician]

I also kind of want to vote Noraa

Leave Norra for me, I can sort her pretty quickly usually

[Flea The Magician]

NORRRAAAAAA! Are you town?

[Ircher]

VOTE: Flea

Flea -> Smart -> T3

[Flea The Magician]

Let me guess, because beetlejuice tell?

[Ircher]

No because your last few walls have all been filler, not to mention my last comment.

[Ircher]

Like I can go through your last wall if you want and show how it is at least 90% filler.

[Dunnstral]

What are binds?

No clue. You tell me.

I think we need a full role claim from you and S_S

[Flea The Magician]

Then give me something you deem worth wrking with? Because frankly 90% of the damned game is filler.

[Dunnstral]

No worries, we have a lot of damage

Why's S_S scum?

Because they're not towny and other people are

[Ircher]

I think we need a full role claim from Flea and S_S

I agree.

[Flea The Magician]

Also my walls are often containing filler, there's filler, theres fun, there's content, it's what I do.

because fuck me for trying to have some fucking fun in a game with 250+ pages while i'm dealing with external shit while this game yeets itself forward at 15 pages a night with practically nothing but fucking filler.

[Noraa]

I don’t know if I’m being eccentric but his post st the top of the page gave me heavy tenet vibes

What alignment was S_S in tenet?

I’m being too indecisive.

I’ll reread over the weekend.

Strike first. Strike hard. No mercy.

Ninja-
Where we went that poor Pokémon through the turnstile to die for literally no reason snd he was just like “yeah it’s the optimal play”

I don't like this post. I feel like it's always been a town notsci thing to do - like just wabam here's a read. And in larges too. I feel like you always flow with town pretty well and here the dynamic is strange because it almost seems like you dont fit in. I dont know I can't tell if this is Tenet's aftereffects.

Als o Bell's vibe is weird this game. I was gonna say earlier but I didn't want to OMGUS. But bell's vibe is so dull and I've never seen it like that before. He seems very upset. I feel like town Bell is always very happy and chattery but here the vibe is all gloomy. Maybe it's just the prfpc idk @_@

[Ircher]

Then give me something you deem worth wrking with? Because frankly 90% of the damned game is filler.

You barely commented on morphs reads list other than disagreeing with your read and saying your reads are the opposite. How does it factor into your reads, and since you seem to disagree with it heavily, why? Which specific reads do you disagree with the most and how come?

[Flea The Magician]

Scythe - innate - I deal damage to a target.
Endless Shroud - innate - Binds do not affect me while I'm covered in Miasma Armour
Miasma armour - 2 sp - I negate 2 points of damage to me in that stratum.
Black Shroud - 3 ap - I can disable peoples innate abilities for that stratum.

[Ircher]

Also my walls are often containing filler, there's filler, theres fun, there's content, it's what I do.

because fuck me for trying to have some fucking fun in a game with 250+ pages while i'm dealing with external shit while this game yeets itself forward at 15 pages a night with practically nothing but fucking filler.

Don't get me wrong; you're allowed some filler, but when your last several posts amount to that, the only reasonable conclusion is that you are scum.

[Ircher]

Damage value? HP value?

[Noraa]

Shea/T3 were tonally very town

Did you just call T3 towny @_@
I wanna go off on this but no one needs that right now. I'll go off on it later.
I haven't read a single one of his posts and I dont believe you/if he really sounds towny, he's scum.

[notscience]

Just assume you have a higher chance of spontaneously growing wings than me and bell would have at snowing morph in the same game

To answer it, I just got out of a game where we mis elimmed nacho snd bulge back to back. That makes me a bit more reserved. I’m reserved about SS from Tenet day 2.