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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:41 am

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In post 2998, jjh927 wrote:I think if I go through your posts and counterargue you will be in a position to simply disavow the argument as it is a throwaway one-liner
I don't think you actually believe that.

As much noise as I've made about you doing exactly that, it would be suicidal for me to do what you claim you think I would do, and an actual towny would use that fact to acquiesce to my request.
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:44 am

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In post 2998, jjh927 wrote:If there's a single post that explains your argument then you can quote that
It's the height of irony that you dare to ask me to do what you yourself will not do.

When I have concerns with a post, I either quote, link, or refer to it. You've done neither of those with me.
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:47 am

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In post 2997, jjh927 wrote:No, Titus is more likely scum than you are
Lol. Don't try to appease me. I actually follow the thread.

In post 2941, jjh927 wrote:Right now I am strongly leaning towards a Titus/House scumteam based on House's efforts to move the elim away from Titus
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:48 am

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In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:53 am

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In post 3003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
Words wound, Gamma.
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 3002, House wrote:
In post 2997, jjh927 wrote:No, Titus is more likely scum than you are
Lol. Don't try to appease me. I actually follow the thread.

In post 2941, jjh927 wrote:Right now I am strongly leaning towards a Titus/House scumteam based on House's efforts to move the elim away from Titus
I have two scumreads of similar, but not equal strength, with high probability of being partners
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 3003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
Also, I'm highly intrigued at the fact the tracks of both my PoE's thus far have served to confirm my findings.
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:56 am

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In post 3006, House wrote:
In post 3003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
Also, I'm highly intrigued at the fact the reactions of both my PoE's thus far have served to confirm my findings.
Sigh. Edit.

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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:58 am

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Is that it then? It is indeed just POE? You do not have a reason for why Moon is scum beyond that?
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:00 am

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In post 3003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2999, jjh927 wrote:In other words, I think there is literally nothing to work with as to the primary reason for which you scumread Moon
It’s. Literally. Just. PoE. For. Him.
Figured I’d cut this Gordian knot
Am I the only one noticing how jjh is only throwing out simple posts that take 30 seconds or so to put together to try to get a response that requires effort in return?

That doesn't seem either game-solvy or town, to me. It's scummy to conserve energy and attempt to exhaust town, and that's exactly what it looks like.
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:07 am

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It doesn't look game solvy to you? Okay

I was trying to engage with a scumread and you gave me literally nothing in return, so I continued to press because that's what I do when people dodge a simple question
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:08 am

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What looks "game solvy" to you? What do you expect from a town player when they try to engage their scumread on something and they keep dodging the question, but they want that answered in order to pursue a line of reasoning? Should I have allowed you to dodge the question and gone off to do something else?
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:09 am

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starting to feel more like moon and jjh
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:10 am

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In post 3011, jjh927 wrote:What looks "game solvy" to you? What do you expect from a town player when they try to engage their scumread on something and they keep dodging the question, but they want that answered in order to pursue a line of reasoning? Should I have allowed you to dodge the question and gone off to do something else?
It's clear you're not actually processing information and simply looking for ways to take jabs. I've made no secret of exactly what I'm looking for.
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In post 2998, jjh927 wrote:If there's a single post that explains your argument then you can quote that
It's the height of irony that you dare to ask me to do what you yourself will not do.

When I have concerns with a post, I either quote, link, or refer to it. You've done neither of those with me.
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:16 am

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Right cool so the only way to engage with a player is to look at their iso, got it
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:17 am

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I asked you for something you still haven't given me

Is your moon scumread entirely POE or what? Do you actually believe he is scum?
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:17 am

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I asked you for something you still haven't given me

Is your moon scumread entirely POE or what? Do you actually believe he is scum?
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:23 am

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In post 3012, cyrus62 wrote:starting to feel more like moon and jjh
Do you have a specific reason for that?
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:24 am

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Also i feel like Titus would have posted VCA by now as town, instead they've just gone silent. I find it very scummy.
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:25 am

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In post 2549, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2510, Titus wrote:
In post 2506, Moongrass wrote:Oh ok. Well who would you vote for then?
I would vote for jjh (obviously). I would honestly vote for most of the thread tbh.

A consensus d1 elim and a consensus d2 miselimination doesn't tell me much besides the fact that scum are driving the eliminations.
Does this look like town!Titus VCA?

She doesn't have any viable mislims left because the net is closing
In post 2554, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2513, Titus wrote:
In post 2509, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2502, Titus wrote:@EE, Can you explain how we're at autowin here?
Don't ask mechanical questions of the stumps
I'll ask what questions I want to. They can shut me down if they want.

My guess is they're overlapping their reads with guesses as to the setup rather than an autowin.

My theory is NK15 was consensus because the other option was you.
We lead into this

It just isn't the kind of VCA we get from town!Titus

We can look at the votecount
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Vote Count 1.FINAL
Not Known 15 (7):
, , , , , , ,
Moongrass (1):
,
Free Money Free Tea (1):
,
Mia and Maya Fey (1):
,
Titus (1):
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nomnomnom (0):

jjh927 (0):

House (0):

cyrus62 (0):

mastina (0):

Not_Mafia (0):

Gamma Emerald (0):

DrippingGoofball (0):


No Euphemization (0):


Not Voting (2):
, ,

With 13 alive, it takes
7
to euphemize and
7
to have no euphemization.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-06-17 17:00:00). At Deadline, currently No Euphemization will occur.


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Not Known 15 has been made into a Euphemism Day 1.

He was:

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Mafia Informed Commuter Enabler

Informed Commuter EnablerYou are aware that [Redacted]. If you die, any commuters will be unable to commute.
Then consider the players that unvoted just so we wouldn't get a quick hammer- that is, myself, House, Cyrus-

That's 10/13 players, plus both stumps saying to elim the slot. You can go back and look at everyone's development and opinions on the NK15 slot. And yet what Titus comes out with is a confirmation bias laced theory that does not appear to have factual basis.
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:26 am

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In post 3017, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 3012, cyrus62 wrote:starting to feel more like moon and jjh
Do you have a specific reason for that?
the way he is hard core white knighting for moon. makes me sus
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:27 am

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Cyrus, I think you have misinterpreted every angle I have taken and everything I have said over the entire course of the game
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:28 am

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I feel like if Titus is scum then House is the one that's really tryharding to get the elimination away from them while Titus is just being real lazy right now and not efforting because they're scum and faking effort is hard.
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:29 am

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I really wish NSG had said more than that she was fine with a Titus elim tbh
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 3022, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I feel like if Titus is scum then House is the one that's really tryharding to get the elimination away from them while Titus is just being real lazy right now and not efforting because they're scum and faking effort is hard.
Right.

Because Titus is so terrible at playing scum.

Makes perfect sense if you don't think about it.
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