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Post Post #6625 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:28 am

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I just looked at Anyas wagon and how green it is

There has to be scum on it, right
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Post Post #6626 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:31 am

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In post 6588, notscience wrote:I wish nacho were here to back me up because without a doubt wheme is my Mara rn.

Y’all are gonna make me towncase him aren’t you
You mean us?

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Post Post #6627 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:32 am

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Cool

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Post Post #6628 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:42 am

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Cool cool cool
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Post Post #6629 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:42 am

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I’m so bored why can’t this game be active like it was earlier

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Post Post #6630 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:59 am

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We're here, but working on stuff.
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Post Post #6631 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:37 am

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Although it seems you may have peace'd out now.
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Post Post #6632 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:39 am

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Here's stuff.... Updated to reflect new data. All of these reads ARE still in order, the higher within each tier, the stronger the town read.

Touch Not a Single Hair On Their HeadsMorph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Mod Confirmed

Bingle - Mod Confirmed

notscience - You will literally never convince us out of this read; meta, tone, style, the way our crumbing dance went, the way Mara's claim went down around him nodding at it

Bell - For {Bell_Alignment} get {postcount}. If {postcount}>50/Day -->Town; else-->Scum

Sigmund - Day One Wagon Compositions. Bravado in throwing down with scum on this list. Claim fits ours like yin and yang.


Break This Glass In Case of Lack of Endgame After The Lower Tiers All DieDunnstral - If Dunn is scum this game, he has not just like, ridden the bus, or driven the bus, he has become the metaphysical concept of all buses that have ever existed at any point in the universe. He probably should be a tier higher but eh. Not his style. He'd also be working harder to get our attention.

Dwlee99 - I fully admit this read is based more upon the meta tells of his predecessor. Guillo has a few tonal markers we look for and expect, and he hit all of them with not just a pass, but a pass with flying colors. Dwlee has done nothing but improve our opinion of the slot since.

WhemeStar - his level of caginess given what he's shared about his role still doesn't make sense, but he's towned it up in other ways, especially over the last 24 hours. He's hit a lot of town notes, but he hasn't really taken stands on players. He's expressed paranoia about the usual "scary" players, basically. New data here has him rocketed up to mid-yellow tier.

Chara - Chara has been wavering in ours reads list a lot. That said, the TSQ slot scum-claiming rockets them all the way to up here. I would be incredibly shocked if Chara is scum with TSQ, and this game doesn't have traitors per the public alignment counts, so there ya go. There have been a LOT of points recently, mostly in day three, that ffery and I found ourselves cheering for a Chara post.

Ircher - Ircher is most likely a vig here. I don't really think that scum has chip damage, a factional kill, AND an extra kill. That said, Ircher's continued stubbornness while once endearing has started to grate hard, and it's unlikely but NOT impossible that scum did have some sort of gates extrakill.


POE Murder List WinnersFarkran - The big thing we like about Farkran is how he's interacted with us given our speculations about his role, etc. The question this game is not "Does the neighborhood have scum in it" but "does the neighborhood have town in it?" Farkan's alignment hangs in the balance. I am assuming that the troubadour in scum-SS confers buffs and potentially protection to the pairing, and that might be worthy of using on an ally for the WIFOM and the gains. It would also be useful for assuring a townread from a townie, though!

Lady Lambdadelta - ~takes cover~ It's just hard to see people above as less town than she's been, and it's also hard to fit their shapes into a team with our other scumreads. She just feels like the puzzle piece that snaps the whole picture together. LLD is one of those reads that short of mod clears, belongs in contention until the game is over only as an acknowledgement that she is WAY capable of busing every single one of the fools unlucky enough to draw red with her right to the very end. Last episode's LLD-Scum sighting had her publicly obtain a dayvig and shoot her partner in the face with it for cred. We do not read her on the basis of emotions, not after Tenet, and not before Tenet either.

catboi/Noraa - the stacking damage role info sounds more like a scum ability to me, especially as compared to mara's SP steal. We empathize strongly with the anger/irritation from catboi about the role not being made clear enough and that softened ffery's read while he was here. I also feel like scum learning they'd used those abilities suboptimally would be super-pissed and able to channel some of that salt into a "town" roleclaim. The way he went about it though, feels town to me. I'm extremely conflicted. Noraa's play has hardened the read back up, though, and we still think this flips scum.


Murder On the Merits of ScummyT3 - Playing to scum meta, basically. We had mild but growing concerns about Shea on day 1/2, and initially thought the replace-out could have been a town-replace, but T3's play has put that thought to rest. Cabd has been his mod AND played against scum-him recently.


Flea the Magician - severe lack of interaction/acknowledgement of most of the game happenings. day 1 wagon hijinks (by hijinks, we're talking about the way Flea's wagon changed and moved when the competing wagons became Anya and Sigmund. We don't like the mostly meaningless catchups (see first point) See also: Deathcurse Regigigas but then keeps being useless after meta.


Something_Smart - lack of thread health maintenance, didn't chime in re all the troubadour discussion with notsci and speculation about a troubadour neighborhood (in contrast to the neighbor), pushes on us have felt both tentative and opportunistic, like shopping our vulnerability to the rest of the players and being noiser about it when others were expressing concerns about us. neuter and spayhalf gutvibes. Something_Smart is this game's Dandelion Wine, and I'm going to let Dunn do here what he SHOULD have done to Cephrir and I.
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Post Post #6633 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:42 am

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Flea, T3. Do you have like, reads.
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Post Post #6634 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:54 am

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Put me back down wtf
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Post Post #6635 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:55 am

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It's okay nobody reads that ugly shade of yellow anyways.
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Post Post #6636 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:56 am

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Meh I feel like I should probably just claim.
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Post Post #6637 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:04 am

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Yeah okay.

As previously mentioned, I'm Troubadour. I have an innate one-shot loyal neighborize, which I used on Fark N1. So he's confirmed town (or he will be once I flip, anyway). I crumbed this (I can pull up the crumb if anyone cares, but it wasn't meant to be found, just for him to point to if I died). I picked him because he was both in everyone's nulls and someone I thought I could work well with (my other candidate was Chara, but I thought Chara was more likely to receive pressure from how they defended Anya).

I also have a one-shot 3 SP ability to make my neighbor's non-damaging actions unblockable for the next night. It is a buff as morph predicted, but not a very useful one.

I have 6 HP. I haven't taken any damage so far. If notsci actually did attack me, then I don't know why it failed.
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Post Post #6638 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:05 am

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That makes things a lot easier since I doubt you'd lie about Farkran as either alignmen.
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Post Post #6639 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:06 am

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My other action went off so I was not roleblocked.
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Post Post #6640 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:07 am

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In post 6635, morph the cat wrote:It's okay nobody reads that ugly shade of yellow anyways.

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Post Post #6641 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:07 am

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So what did you guys talk about in your PT?
I haven't really been paying attention to Farkran in terms of what he has to say about you. Farkran is there anything you'd like to say about S_S that I missed?
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Post Post #6642 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:07 am

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In post 6638, Bell wrote:That makes things a lot easier since I doubt you'd lie about Farkran as either alignmen.
That is probably true, but I don't think it matters much since I'm likely flipping before him in any event.
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Post Post #6643 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:09 am

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In post 6642, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6638, Bell wrote:That makes things a lot easier since I doubt you'd lie about Farkran as either alignmen.
That is probably true, but I don't think it matters much since I'm likely flipping before him in any event.
A true statement regardless if you're town or scum. That's a grammatical quirk probably.
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Post Post #6644 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:10 am

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In post 6641, Bell wrote:So what did you guys talk about in your PT?
He trusted me at least decently much off the bat. I mostly used it as a mason/notes PT, talking about reads. I can give some summaries of the things we talked about, but I think they're mostly not relevant now. (We talked a lot about Murdercat/NDMath, and also about morph speculating about troubadour and also just my conflicted feelings on morph in general.)
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Post Post #6645 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:11 am

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In post 6643, Bell wrote:A true statement regardless if you're town or scum. That's a grammatical quirk probably.
I understood you correctly (I think)-- I agree that I probably wouldn't do this with buddy-Fark, but since I'm not scum it doesn't matter because I'll likely flip before him and he'll be 100% cleared.
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Post Post #6646 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:12 am

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VOTE: Smart

Sorry, I don't believe that claim.
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Post Post #6647 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:13 am

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Why not?
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Post Post #6648 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:14 am

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I don't think there's a loyal neighborize shot in this kind of setup.
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Post Post #6649 (ISO) » Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:15 am

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Update: I have just been informed by unwnd that I lost 1 HP last night.
In post 6648, Ircher wrote:I don't think there's a loyal neighborize shot in this kind of setup.
...why not?
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