Yggdrasil - Stratum FINAL -

[notscience]

I think you should show the color coded lists with the flips again

[morph the cat]

You'd better hope sigmund isn't immune to the redirector you have~

[Dwlee99]

I think T3's last few posts seemed like a scum claim, and that we should deal damage there

If ircher has a shot that is able to be used we should expand the pool of shots for that

Day-elim S_S; split damage evenly towards like, T3 and Noraa, and take Flea's claim at face value as a "must day elim me tomrorow"

Is my optimal.

...and if scum have a way to deal with chip damage like we think they do? And t3 and Noraa live the night because we decided to throw over someone we were less sure is evil?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD,

Why is/was notsci in your elim-chain?

Also, could you talk about how yesterday's wagons played into your elim-chain?

I have these questions, LLD

Notsci was bonus 7th player because I have reservations about their role allowing them to skip the "vote to make a choice" yesterday and even today they're still sidelined.

The sidelining means they don't need to be judged or tested, just live on clique friendship alone.

So I had people I scumread more but if we got to name 7 and the game wasn't over I figured Notty is probably scum.

As for my elim chain order, I prepared it specifically with putting people on polar opposite of my "scum together" reads away from each other in order, because I acutally didn't expect us to continue down my list if I got one wrong.

So the idea is, put the scummiest of them on top, towniest on bottom, and space them so the people who are unlikely to be scum together are grouped, to minimize "lose the game" potential.

Hence why Sigmund and Notty are in 6 and 7 because if I'm right on all 5, we never get there, and if I'm wrong it's probably one of them. I have something for Chara not scum, I think. I have doubts Dwlee is scum though that's just gut based on yesterday

and Dunn has been in lock step with me all game I just don't see him choosing to pocket me from that early on day 1 over you in a game filled mostly with your friends and not mine.

So that's where the list is and why.

As for how it came into play with vote coutns yesterday,

I think that there's an even split of bussers and opposers, because with an anya death and 2 townies, why NOT split yourselves and hide in the masses. I think at most 2 people on vanity wagons, more liekly 1 could be scum.

So I went from that kind of value and my reads and tried to find patterns that fit.

This is what I found in my list.

[Noraa]

Who's sigmund again? And if I were scum, I'd be entirely fine with you killing off LHF lmao.

[notscience]

Cabd-head reads:

{

Bingle

,

Artemiana

, Sigmund,

Titus

}
{LLD, Bell}
{notscience,

MurderCat

, dwlee}
{

NDMath

, Catboi, Thestatusquo, Flea, Dunnstral }
{Flea, Ircher, Farkran }
{Whemestar, S_S, Chara}

You fuckers don't get to touch sigmund.

I've lost too many townreads to stupid fucking play.

We're confirmed town and I intend to go out in a blaze of glory today, we are NOT eliminating town.

[Noraa]

Murder is here?!

[morph the cat]

Who's sigmund again? And if I were scum, I'd be entirely fine with you killing off LHF lmao.

The problem is your team elim'd their LHF in Anya day one, and already did chip-damage-kills to the unsortables.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Day-elim S_S; split damage evenly towards like, T3 and Noraa, and take Flea's claim at face value as a "must day elim me tomrorow"

Is my optimal.

Vote: S_S

Sure, whatever.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You'd better hope sigmund isn't immune to the redirector you have~

I'm not currently charged to use it anyway, since I used it last night.

Also, ftr? Cabd?

This is taunting. This is what makes me not want to play this game with you.

[Noraa]

Who's sigmund again? And if I were scum, I'd be entirely fine with you killing off LHF lmao.

The problem is your team elim'd their LHF in Anya day one, and already did chip-damage-kills to the unsortables.

I'm disappointed.

[notscience]

For the record while yes I didn’t end up voting I still definitely chose a side snd was campaigning and obviously would have joined the wagon at the last minute before my plans

[notscience]

I also spent the day trying to get votes on me and got nothing so I think it’s unfair to call me “coasting off that”

[Lady Lambdadelta]

For the record while yes I didn’t end up voting I still definitely chose a side snd was campaigning and obviously would have joined the wagon at the last minute before my plans

This means so little it can't have its speed and position measured at the same time.

[Something_Smart]

You can't see how this is a problem for me?

I can see why it's a problem if you aren't thinking about it probabilistically.

if there's a compelling reason for me to do something as scum and there's a compelling reason for me to do it as town, then it isn't scummy. It's just null. There being a reason for me to do it as scum is only scummy if there ISN'T a reason for me to do it as town, so that's the thing you'd need to address. But, I have nothing to lose as town by asking it, because if he does agree to it, then I know it won't end badly (even though he doesn't).

[notscience]

Yeah, I suppose it is a platitude that we never got to see play out. Still think it’s unfair but I couldn’t really elaborate for obvious reasons

[notscience]

Cabd I think it might be best to go after one of the discrediting scum today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I also spent the day trying to get votes on me and got nothing so I think it’s unfair to call me “coasting off that”

...

that's literally the definition of coasting. You don't need to take a real stance, you play a secret mini game while the rest of us play, and if you are scum, you do it because you know both the other wgaons are on townies so you get the best of both words. You get to "support" one to be seen as "doing something" but you dodge all relevant VCA and when asked about it you shrug your shoulders and go "role mechanics bruh"

That's literally coasting. And has huge scum equity.

Literally it's only that there are 3 obv scum in thread right now that makes you less positive of a target.

[morph the cat]

2. Dunnstral
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
8. Sigmund
13. WhemeStar
14. notscience
16. Guillotina Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart

Here are a list of 10 of the 16 people I think have scum equity. The others are cleared by role, play, or mechanic.

From here, we need to assume that we have at best 2 miseliminations remaining. At BEST.

so... I'm going to make a list of 6 names an a notable alternate at 7, that I believe, if killed in order, would win town the game without accidentally risking town losing the game (i.e, the list will be semi ordered in preference to avoid multiple dead townies in a row at any point to avoid parity+bonus kill issues)


4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
8. Sigmund
13. WhemeStar
14. notscience
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart

Is the 7, and in order....

S_S
Farkan
Catboi
Wheme
Shea
Sigmund
NotScience

I think if you eliminate that 7 in order, you win the game. Flea probably town from D1 TVT. Dunn town for having a lot of mind meld moments with me, but I don't have much else there. Dwlee town because I feel like Dwlee tried to inject life into yesterday which apathy would have been a better scum move coming in as a replacement with the current things we know.

So this list, in order, kill them, town should win or be in a winning position to re-evaluate who is left.

Has anything in the 7 changed based the last 12 hours or so?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

2. Dunnstral
4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
8. Sigmund
13. WhemeStar
14. notscience
16. Guillotina Dwlee99
18. Flea the Magician
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart

Here are a list of 10 of the 16 people I think have scum equity. The others are cleared by role, play, or mechanic.

From here, we need to assume that we have at best 2 miseliminations remaining. At BEST.

so... I'm going to make a list of 6 names an a notable alternate at 7, that I believe, if killed in order, would win town the game without accidentally risking town losing the game (i.e, the list will be semi ordered in preference to avoid multiple dead townies in a row at any point to avoid parity+bonus kill issues)


4. White Fire (Shiro/Firebringer) catboi
8. Sigmund
13. WhemeStar
14. notscience
20. Thestatusquo
22. Farkran
24. Something_Smart

Is the 7, and in order....

S_S
Farkan
Catboi
Wheme
Shea
Sigmund
NotScience

I think if you eliminate that 7 in order, you win the game. Flea probably town from D1 TVT. Dunn town for having a lot of mind meld moments with me, but I don't have much else there. Dwlee town because I feel like Dwlee tried to inject life into yesterday which apathy would have been a better scum move coming in as a replacement with the current things we know.

So this list, in order, kill them, town should win or be in a winning position to re-evaluate who is left.

Has anything in the 7 changed based the last 12 hours or so?

I literally turned my brain off for the last 12 hours, so unless you're counting "me finding Notty's defense of his play suspect because of how much he wants to keep that green read from you through to after you're dead" suspicious... you'll need to point me to shit you want me looking at

[morph the cat]

Cabd I think it might be best to go after one of the discrediting scum today.

I don't know that I have the power to dictate my terms.

I have but my vote.
And your vote.
And sigmund's vote.
And bell's vote.
And probably Ircher's vote.
And jingle's vote.


My sextavote role is not enough to hammer a wagon, need a 3x voter to join me.

[morph the cat]

@LLD

s_s's claim wrt to Farkran, and Wheme's play, mostly.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD

s_s's claim wrt to Farkran, and Wheme's play, mostly.

What was S_S's claim?

And quote some Wheme posts you care about

[morph the cat]

Cabd I think it might be best to go after one of the discrediting scum today.

I don't know that I have the power to dictate my terms.

I have but my vote.
And your vote.
And sigmund's vote.
And bell's vote.
And probably Ircher's vote.
And jingle's vote.


My sextavote role is not enough to hammer a wagon, need a 3x voter to join me.

Dunn probably votes with us too. (I heard a "you tell'em ffery" inside me head when I wrote this)

[Dunnstral]

Cabd I think it might be best to go after one of the discrediting scum today.

I don't know that I have the power to dictate my terms.

I have but my vote.
And your vote.
And sigmund's vote.
And bell's vote.
And probably Ircher's vote.
And jingle's vote.


My sextavote role is not enough to hammer a wagon, need a 3x voter to join me.

I'm likely to vote with you, I was thinking we'd figure out notscience votes first