Newbie 2066: Gelato 2 -- End!

[GuyInFreezer]

It made no sense why you not only felt confident on your reads but also that you assumed you would be NK'd at some point instead of voted out even if you were wrong.

Nah I don’t hesitate until maybe late game.

[NotAJumbleOfNumbers]

VOTE: Rockhopper I just don't see any chance right now that this is town.

[VFP]

VOTE: Rockhopper

For now I'm going to sheep my only solid town read.
But I'm thinking this over.

I want people to start showing these crumbs though.
Because if someone is crumbling a PR where they should be, we're going for them.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-2

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Rockhopper

(2): NotAJumbleOfNumbers, VFP

T3

(1): Rockhopper

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to eliminate.

Deadline: June 24, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-06-24 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Roden]

Rock, do you have anything to say?

Vax, are you still playing?

[VFP]

Roden, where's your mind at? Since no one is talking.
And where's the GIF crumb?

[GuyInFreezer]

Roden, where's your mind at? Since no one is talking.
And where's the GIF crumb?

If only you read last page
But alas

[Roden]

Yeah, I already pointed it out last page. I was wrong since I thought GIF had bread crumbed himself as being a Mason or Friendly Neighbor, since he seemed to imply he would only ever be NK'd rather than voted out, even on Day/Night 2. He isn't confirmed town anymore, though I'm hesitant to scum read him since he just seems too bold to actually be scum. But I guess that's more of a gut feeling rather than anything I can hone in on to read him.

As far as where my mind is, GIF still seems set on Clasko/VFP slot and Vax as the scum pair, but it also looks like everyone else seems ready to vote Rock. I am as well, but the silence and lack of resistance is making me paranoid. That along with the Sang kill has me low key terrified that I'm the actual clueless townie all along and that the Rock vote feels too easy for a good reason.

However, Vax's silence is also worrying. I'm feeling pretty certain that there's one scum between Vax and Rock, and it's possible scum!Vax's best play is to stay silent and let us wagon Rock. And that would add up with GIF's scum reads. However, if Vax is scum then their partner is 100% one of my town reads.

On the other hand, it could really be just this easy and Rock is scum. If he is, I have a feeling I know who his partner based off a tell I noticed in Day 1.

[VFP]

Roden, where's your mind at? Since no one is talking.
And where's the GIF crumb?

If only you read last page
But alas

I don't get it?

[Roden]

What don't you get...? I've explained it twice now.

[VFP]

What don't you get...? I've explained it twice now.

Okay, but show me the post that you thought was a crumb. Not the reasoning.

[Roden]

What I want to know is why Sang got NK'd over GIF. Because I genuinely think scum made a mistake here if they think they can frame GIF for a wrong elim. Pretty sure he bread crumbled why earlier and scum didn't catch it.

Are you still convinced that GIF is town?

I'll be honest, it went from a solid 95% to a shaky 80%. It isn't even necessarily how he's been playing, but because of something he said.

Show me Roden, where does GIF crumb?

I'm gonna wait for him to post because idk if he's just gonna explain it himself now that he actually survived to Day 2. But the crumb itself was Post 355.

Btw the reason for my 180 on Vax yesterday was because I thought T3 was softing a mason with Vax.
Sang saw the same thing which is why he told me my approach was +town.

Oh...

Uh, I should probably just say this now. I thought you were basically confirmed town because it looked like you were trying to bread crumb that you were a Mason or Friendly Neighbor. It made no sense why you not only felt confident on your reads but also that you assumed you would be NK'd at some point instead of voted out even if you were wrong. But if you guessed T3/Vax were actually Masons, then I was way off point with my guess.

[VFP]

I dont see the post from GIF to make you think this?

[VFP]

Wait, I'm dumb.

[VFP]

GIF and Rock, both of you make me want to drink.

I will explain it in due time if I don’t get nightkilled tonight or N2.
But as of now Vax is not the lunch today and if you are that against clasko I suggest Johnny.

[VFP]

Okay, so next up is the T3 crumb.
What post is it GIF?

[VFP]

I'm also pretty sure T3 is town there.
So that's 2 town reads done.

Roden I feel is genuine about 355 which seems like GIF was trying to prepare a PR claim if needed. Basically saying "keep me alive until ELO and I'll explain".
I need to check if Vax was ever at risk of being an actual lim or if this os scum theatre.

But I feel like both scum are just in GIF / Vax / Rockstopper from PoE alone here.

[VFP]

So GIF never once votes Vax, even though Vax is run up.
Calling Vax Scum but still doesn't vote at E3 or anything. This just looks like good ole scum theatre.

Claims intent to hammer when it looks settled, then votes over to my slot, then helps lim Johnny.

I don't see any crumbs from T3, and only town reads about Vax from T3. GIF knows by now the difference on a town read and a crumb, even more.so on a Mason crumb. So unless GIF posts a strong crumb that I missed, this is scum.

262 says this when Vax is being voted up and looks to be the excuse to not vote there at this point. However, doesn't mind voting Johnny up to E2 with still almost 2 days to go and no Johnny post.

VOTE: GIF

I'm hoping that the below post is just the crumb claim from GIF because if it is, I'm locking my vote.

And we’re running out of time so

Intent to hammer

We're not limming Vax. VOTE: GIF

[T3]

I kind of forgot about this game.

Gif/Rock?
Idk though.

[VFP]

Maybe.
I still like the pool of GIF/Vax/Rock

[GuyInFreezer]

355 was made because if I say out loud that "YO I THINK T3 IS MASON WITH VAX PLS HOP OFF" Day 1, well... I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that doing that is anti-town AF. So I didn't want to spell out my reasoning for 180 on Vax for that exact reason.
I said D2 and D3 specifically because D2 in case if one of the mason gets off'd, and D3 is you know, potential endgame.

And yes 322 was the assumed strong mason soft because who else would defend a townread by voting his

townread

to stop the lynch that desperately? Y'all can roll it however you wish but do note that sang, a

confirmed town

at this point, also saw the same thing I saw.

Rest of 422 is not worth responding to when I've been p much transparent on why I did such things. In fact, I went overly transparent on those on purpose because I knew if I wasn't being transparent there someone could've tried to twist it to make me look bad.

[GuyInFreezer]

Either VFP is not reading the game or feigning ignorance.

[VFP]

Thays not a town response.

It still doesn't explain why you were hesitant to vote Vax before you sure the "crumb" because you wanted Johnny to post... But voting Johnny with.almost 2 days left before they post was.omay.

[VFP]

That's not a town response.

It still doesn't explain why you were hesitant to vote Vax before you saw the "crumb", because you wanted Johnny to post... But voting Johnny with almost 2 days left before they posted was okay.

Fixed.

[GuyInFreezer]

I can literally answer those by only quoting my own posts.
But I will only do so if you selfvote.