Situation Room [Game Over!]

[UNOwen]

its a good quickhammer

Good start IMO.

Yuri, oka, save the dragons has scum in it IMO.

I endorse these thoughts.

[Yuri Gagarin]

VOTE: oka

[Bell]

T3 seems fine. But you do you.

[Save The Dragons]

oh shit this is nightless

[T3]

oh shit this is nightless

Oh

shit

?

[Yuri Gagarin]

Bingle, GL, titus, oka

[OkaPoka]

yuri can i borrow you to vote lim gl today i promise to lim you after

[Yuri Gagarin]

Let’s kill oka first for bitching about the neighbourhood

He claims that neighbourhoods are pointless

Yet he posts in one

Curious

[OkaPoka]

dance players understand

[Yuri Gagarin]

VOTE: GL

[UNOwen]

y u?

The Dannflor push is not very convincing and you've not given good justification for why you would believe it. The assertive/less assertive thing is a characterization of his play, I don't see an argument from you for why it's scummy. The only other point you've offered is that some of the notes in his big list were lazy. Dann comes across as the type of player who would be capable of typing out paragraphs on any player in the game if he had to, it doesn't seem a stretch to assume that the most flippant comments would either be revisited or that there's more to them than he posted. (And throwing in the Gamma wagon stuff with one liner reads feels a bit disingenuous, I thought the meta explanation was reasonably thoughtful).

Also,

Spoiler:

Thanks for this reply, I see where you're coming from a bit better. I think we may have a clash of playstyle/philosophy here, IMO usually (but especially early game) you gotta just take what people give you at face value, if you invent motivations/narratives for why someone's play is scummy you can almost always come up with a plausible scum-agenda explanation for a lot of town play and IMO that's what scum use to their advantage to push fake scumreads

another question, how likely do you think it is that all five players who voted Gamma are town?

VOTE: Solo

I think it's less likely a scum!Hypothermia is upfront about inventing motivation so explicitly, I don't detect any self-consciousness there

I think Solo's townrerad on Oka might be fake, I was debating whether to wait for an answer from Solo on my question re:Bell and whether there was an acknowledgment to some of the pushback on that read, but I'ma go ahead and vote cause I don't like my Hypothermia vote anymore.

Solo, how much mafia have you played previously?

dislike this from GL but not totally sure why

not so much for the specific content as I dislike the pattern of interaction?

initial pings were that his reasons for the hypo vote were bc of "feeling reachy" when it was like 6 pages in and

any

substantiation of a read atp is going to be reachy if it's going beyond "something seems off about X" and it just feels like the immediate backoff from that to it being a "clash of playstyle/philosophy" just not what I'd expect from GL who iirc is reasonable with people but also tends to want to interrogate things when they ping him

so the handwaveyness is maybe what's bothering me here rather than him like, examining further whether he thinks hypo is doing what he says he thinks scum often try to do re inventing narratives/motivations

you push GuiltyLion for backing off in the first quote, while completely ignoring his reasoning from the second. It would be one thing if you didn't believe GuiltyLion would find the upfrontness that townie for whatever reason, but to not mention it at all looks sneaky.

Yuri feels like the better vote right now, for reasons I outlined in 825. Town can make pushes that are more intended to stir things up but Yuri's calls for a wagon and his "Bingle/Dannflor contains scum" idea gave the impression that this was supposed to be a sincere suspicion, and I don't think that his stated reasons are nearly strong enough to back this up. I was also expecting a response to the more accusatory second part of that post, but didn't get one. I thought it was an alright point.

Yuri answer for your crimes.

[OkaPoka]

omg u actually did it

[Yuri Gagarin]

[Save The Dragons]

Votecount 1.33

Target	Wagon
Cupcake Butterfly (4)	Bingle (976), FakeGod (981), Almost50 (1013), Gamma Emerald (1123)
Yuri Gagarin (4)	Bell (502), OkaPoka (758), UNOwen (811), Titus (877)
Gamma Emerald (4)	Dusa (1132), Dannflor (1152), DrippingGoofball (1154), GuiltyLion (1165)
GuiltyLion (2)	Yuri Gagarin (805), Save The Dragons (880)
Not Voting (3)	Cupcake Butterfly, LavarManos, T3 (1070)

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-06-25 19:26:59).

Hi t3

a history lesson

here's the wagon compositions before i voted

at what point was gamma inevitable

was it really before he had a plurality of votes

[Yuri Gagarin]

Yuri answer for your crimes.

nah

[Bell]

I do understand that oka hates neighborhoods on principle since he thinks it’s excellent grounds in which to pocket people. I still think oka is scum this game.

[UNOwen]

VOTE: Yuri

[Yuri Gagarin]

quaking

[OkaPoka]

i appreciate it bell for preventing me from getting venge'd

[Bell]

Yuri is really leaning into that FG pocket.

[Yuri Gagarin]

If daddy fakegod won’t save me then who will

[Yuri Gagarin]

Need him to protect me from the big bad tituses and unowens of the world

[OkaPoka]

akshully should i locktown fakegod and throw away the key HMMDFASDMGASD)F!@#!@-CX

[northsidegal]

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[northsidegal]

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