Situation Room [Game Over!]

[OkaPoka]

you just admitted you don't even care to help town

[OkaPoka]

im annoyed this setup is hard enough and i like to try and have a semblance of a shot at winning this setup

[Yuri Gagarin]

1088 doesn’t make sense

If my whole plan as scum is to t and get TR for boldness then why do I not double down on the mechtalk sucks and I’ll shoot anyone who keeps partaking of it

Whereas you’re ruling out my feeling of “this is something I find boring but I want to at least not throw and ideally get some advtange from mechanics” as being the less likely scenario here bc ???

[OkaPoka]

and if i cant presume good faith adsifasdif

[GuiltyLion]

do you think its reasonable for town to want to keep someone alive who is actively working to sabotage town's win conditions because they don't give a fuck now?

at the same time this is the kinda shit that scum love to push

can y'all just make truce and sheep me on T3

[Yuri Gagarin]

you just admitted you don't even care to help town

[OkaPoka]

1088 doesn’t make sense

If my whole plan as scum is to t and get TR for boldness then why do I not double down on the mechtalk sucks and I’ll shoot anyone who keeps partaking of it

Whereas you’re ruling out my feeling of “this is something I find boring but I want to at least not throw and ideally get some advtange from mechanics” as being the less likely scenario here bc ???

because mechtalk sucks is not exactly a comfortable stance to stand on, you will permanently have people scumreading you if you just say i will kill all mechtalk whereas a more nuanced pos might be able to throw some heat off

[Yuri Gagarin]

im annoyed this setup is hard enough and i like to try and have a semblance of a shot at winning this setup

lol

[Yuri Gagarin]

MECHTALK DOES FUCKING SUCK

IT SUCKS DIRTY ASS

[Bell]

Eh, oka, people are in their own bubbles he got hyped for an idea and then people ruined it because they have their own.

[Yuri Gagarin]

if I’m scummy goal is not to have everyone townreading me in that world my plan is to utter eliminate mechtalk from the conversation

It doesn’t matter if a subsection scumread me for it, because there are others who’ll townread me for the balls to the wall nature of pushing that plus the benefits of removing mechtalk entirely

[OkaPoka]

you've pretty much demonstrated you are doing worse than eliminate mech talk, you are actively sabotaging town's plan of doing mech

[Bell]

Nah, you already admitted that those neighborhood are -EV. Don’t back peddle.
Tell me what appealed to you about those neighborhoods.

[Yuri Gagarin]

Like do you think my actions tally with someone who was seriously trying to stop and derail all the mechtalk rather than voice my distaste for it? I don’t think you can possibly believe that if you’re acting in good faith when I’d made like, maybe 15 posts on mech AT BEST by the time you started calling me scum for wanting to shut down mechtalk because, and I quote, “I’ve seen scum do that before”

[Bell]

Compromises are fine.
Let’s compromise.

[Yuri Gagarin]

Nah, you already admitted that those neighborhood are -EV. Don’t back peddle.
Tell me what appealed to you about those neighborhoods.

Is this to me? Where am I backpedaling lmao

[OkaPoka]

yeah i thought you were scummy for that back and forth but a lot of that at the time was because i didn't feel strongly on anyone else and its the best we had i mean i did vote other people did i not?

this is different now

[Yuri Gagarin]

do you think its reasonable for town to want to keep someone alive who is actively working to sabotage town's win conditions because they don't give a fuck now?

Also I’m trying to vote scum

Just because I actively want to fuck up the mech so all the effort put into it was wasted doesn’t mean I’m playing against wincon here

[Bell]

You’re trying to argue it isn’t scummy to express an opinion that benefits the scum team. Let’s move the alignment argument over to the side and talk about what you enjoyed about the ideas so that I can try my best to play toward my win condition while also allowing other people room for their own enjoyment.

[Yuri Gagarin]

and its the best we had

Please

[OkaPoka]

tell me what was better

[Yuri Gagarin]

And you voting other people.. means what, exactly?

Did you bother to do any examination of the wagon that sprung up on me after the fact given that your reasoning wasn’t great by your own admission? No?

And then you’ve swung back round to your original departure point anyway

[OkaPoka]

yes i did examine the wagon

[OkaPoka]

next question

[OkaPoka]

im going to try my hand at vca wrt to yuri wagon, hi titus

dgb unvote at the time it happened (when guilty voted) probably means dgb/yuri maybe aligned? at least if yuri is town, dgb town stonks go way up while yuri is scum, dgb scum stonks go slightly up.

guilty/unowen/dusa all have slight +scum equity i suppose for blind sheeping me in a way and scum probably want to be on lead wagons regardless of yuri's alignment. however its unlikely that all three r scum. 1 or 2 probs yeah? rule of three maybe?

bell unknown because he was first vote and is not really related to this.

add titus to the guilty/unowen/dusa i think because i think titus would understand how the setup works

i don't think yuri's alignment really changes after being wagoned, scum probably just want to be on a leading wagon and i think someone like yuri wouldn't say in scum pt, don't wagon me u lil shits

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