Newbie 2068 | Lofi Beats to Play Mafia To | Game Over

[alstroemerial]

I feel like I can make a case for myself for scum James or scum Grandpa but not both at the same time so I'm in a bit of a pickle

[JamesTheNames]

I feel like I can make a case for myself for scum James or scum Grandpa but not both at the same time so I'm in a bit of a pickle

Which of us do you have a stronger town case for?

[alstroemerial]

ughhh they're both pretty weak to be completely honest which is disappointing because I like you so far personally. it's slightly stronger for you but I think that is partially clouded by emotion.

If nothing new happens in the next few hours I'll probably just hammer so things continue to move :/ I feel like we're running out of info to get on D1 without seeing a flip and a kill.

[VFP]

If you don't want to hammer yet we have plenty of time.

Personally I want to keep Grampa at E1 because regardless of alignment scum either go quiet or act wierd with Grampa tied up in front of us.

[GrandpaMo]

I feel like I can make a case for myself for scum James or scum Grandpa but not both at the same time so I'm in a bit of a pickle

Which of us do you have a stronger town case for?

are you going to ignore me?

[GrandpaMo]

or r u looking back now*^

[VFP]

I've seen enough horror movies to know never look back.

[JamesTheNames]

or r u looking back now*^

Have some patience I'm reading the last few pages.

[alstroemerial]

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

Yes, I do think t3 is more liable than Val to be your scumpartner because of x.
No, I do not think T3 is more liable than Val to be your scumpartner because of x.

do you think i would bus as scum here?

Yes, I would think you bus here because of x..
No, I would think you don't here because of x.

@James, this is one that I couldn't find an answer for and I would be curious about when you get to it!

[GrandpaMo]

or r u looking back now*^

Have some patience I'm reading the last few pages.

yeae thats what im asking

sorry

[Val89]

Now hold on a darn tooting minute! I have been absent all day, as has Zyla; and you are ready to drop the hammer on someone?

Grandpa, if you are town, there is no good reason at all for you to self-hammer here, so don't do it, and don't threaten to do it - it only clouds the issue.

If the VC is correct, the hammer has to come from me, Alstro or Zyla and at least two of those haven't yet had a change to engage with the past page or two. We aren't in a rush here - we've near 5 days left, and the game put in a burst of energy yesterday we haven't had a change to digest properly, or at least I haven't. I think any sort of hammer at this point would be a mistake - as I saw posted by a mod on a completed game thread; scum thrives in spontaneity

[JamesTheNames]

you also pivoted ur vote from val to me. and this would have implied that you thought i was scummier. but still are bringing up the narrative that i could be scum wit val? so why pivot in the first place if there was a liable chance that i was scum wit val?

I thought you were scummier. Would you not vote somebody you thought was scummier than someone else?

[alstroemerial]

I've seen enough horror movies to know never look back.

We are Orpheus with the insights Eurydice holds taunting us from pages ago.............

[alstroemerial]

Is it normal to feel a little burnt out on page 26 or have I been putting too much time in

[VFP]

635 makes me wish I was the hammer.

[GrandpaMo]

Spoiler:

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?

I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?

I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

what does this mean? can you just answer my questions? wit yes or no

t3 the person who i scumread?

You scum read half the game

t3 the person who i scumread?

You scum read half the game

Doesn't Mo scumread half of the game?

wrong i said scum between james + zyla

and possible scumpartner t3, or cook

4 out of the 8 other people. So half.

can you stop deflecting me and answer me already?

you also pivoted ur vote from val to me. and this would have implied that you thought i was scummier. but still are bringing up the narrative that i could be scum wit val? so why pivot in the first place if there was a liable chance that i was scum wit val?

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?

I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

what does this mean? can you just answer my questions? wit yes or no

ill quote it again for u

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?

I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

what does this mean? can you just answer my questions? wit yes or no

It means exactly what it says, it isn't that complicated. Spam posting the same thing for hundreds of posts doesn't make you town. Self meta to the extent you do it is scummy. You have no actual case against me that I haven't brought up. You unvote with no explanation.
You're scum. We go into Day 2 1 scum down.

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

do you think i would bus as scum here?

I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

what does this mean? can you just answer my questions? wit yes or no

It means exactly what it says, it isn't that complicated. Spam posting the same thing for hundreds of posts doesn't make you town. Self meta to the extent you do it is scummy. You have no actual case against me that I haven't brought up. You unvote with no explanation.
You're scum. We go into Day 2 1 scum down.

to further analyze this -- its just you not answering a damn thing once again. you just have confirmation bias that you know for sure ill flip scum. if you are town -- ill probably say sum to u post game

so back to my unvote thing..

james i really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt because in my mind, i thought there was a chance you could have been town just incase i was just blindly tunneling u that sometimes i do by mistake.

and so i was just thinking about vfp's townread on you and everyone else's interaction wit u.

and i wanted you to answer questions regarding your inconsistency with your reads.

just to see how you viewved me + t3 differently than me + val.

but honestly, u never do.

u just always deflect, ignore, or find "meaningless" answers such as post 491 like wtf answer is that and what does that even mean.

i tried looking at you from a town perspective but i just can't see it -- everything alligns with you being town.

i will vote you back now unless someone has a pretty good towncase on you then my vote will stay on you.

VOTE: James[/uv]

pedit: this is exactly what i mean -- you still haven't answered shit. once again deflecting.

Post 491 reads:
I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

"I" in english refers to the first person, so JamesTheNames is saying this from their perspective.
"Think" comes from To Think meaning JamesTheNames had an idea in his head.
"It" refers to the idea of you bussing.
"Was" is the passed tense of be as you did it in the past.
"Intended" is a verb meaning you had justification behind an action
"as" is for a metaphor
"a" is a singular indirect pronoun for it
"back up" means a noun, similar to the idea of a Plan B
"because" meaning JamesTheNames was about to explain it.
"You" referring to you
"Were" referring to before you unvoted me?
"Confident" in your eyes you knew I was scum
"You"
"Could" had the ability to
"Get me hammered" kill me.

so back to my unvote thing..

james i really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt because in my mind, i thought there was a chance you could have been town just incase i was just blindly tunneling u that sometimes i do by mistake.

and so i was just thinking about vfp's townread on you and everyone else's interaction wit u.

and i wanted you to answer questions regarding your inconsistency with your reads.

just to see how you viewved me + t3 differently than me + val.

but honestly, u never do.

u just always deflect, ignore, or find "meaningless" answers such as post 491 like wtf answer is that and what does that even mean.

i tried looking at you from a town perspective but i just can't see it -- everything alligns with you being town.

i will vote you back now unless someone has a pretty good towncase on you then my vote will stay on you.

VOTE: James[/uv]

pedit: this is exactly what i mean -- you still haven't answered shit. once again deflecting.

Post 491 reads:
I think it was intended as a back up because you were confident you could get me hammered.

"I" in english refers to the first person, so JamesTheNames is saying this from their perspective.
"Think" comes from To Think meaning JamesTheNames had an idea in his head.
"It" refers to the idea of you bussing.
"Was" is the passed tense of be as you did it in the past.
"Intended" is a verb meaning you had justification behind an action
"as" is for a metaphor
"a" is a singular indirect pronoun for it
"back up" means a noun, similar to the idea of a Plan B
"because" meaning JamesTheNames was about to explain it.
"You" referring to you
"Were" referring to before you unvoted me?
"Confident" in your eyes you knew I was scum
"You"
"Could" had the ability to
"Get me hammered" kill me.

lol i dont think you are understanding me.

i will ask once again.

answer my question with a yes or no answer.

I'm not wasting my time responding until you actually have a case against me I haven't addressed.

@Zyla @VPF @Val89 @NorweiganBoy @Cook @T3 @Astro @The person I accidentally forgot:
Thoughts on the nonsense of GrandpaMo unvoting me only to revote after asked about it?

? what i literally asked you.

and you still havent fucking addressed my other points??????

@Zyla @VPF @Val89 @NorweiganBoy @Cook @T3 @Astro @The person I accidentally forgot:
Thoughts on the nonsense of GrandpaMo unvoting me only to revote after asked about it?

? what i literally asked you.

and you still havent fucking addressed my other points??????

There's no need for getting angry or anything over this game. If I'm scum you have days to convince people. If you're scum just trying to get me hammered you have days to do it. I'm trying to enjoy this game just as much as you are.

Explain your unvote. I'm curious.

im just thinking rn

Thinking what?

u think t3 is possible more liable to be my scumpartner than val?

t3 the person who i scumread?

Yes, I do think t3 is more liable than Val to be your scumpartner because of x.
No, I do not think T3 is more liable than Val to be your scumpartner because of x.

do you think i would bus as scum here?

Yes, I would think you bus here because of x..
No, I would think you don't here because of x.

you also pivoted ur vote from val to me. and this would have implied that you thought i was scummier. but still are bringing up the narrative that i could be scum wit val? so why pivot in the first place if there was a liable chance that i was scum wit val?

And you haven't even addressed this. I am not looking for a no/yes answer for this. But why.

@alstro did u literlaly miss this whole interaction?

[VFP]

Is it normal to feel a little burnt out on page 26 or have I been putting too much time in

This is a heavy reading game compared to most.
Also normally in newbies there's mostly a lim by this point... so it gets better!

[JamesTheNames]

Is it normal to feel a little burnt out on page 26 or have I been putting too much time in

Yes. I understand this.

[alstroemerial]

@ Grandpa
Yeah, but like you said, the answer James gave was "it was a back up" which is different than "t3 is more/less likely than Val"

[alstroemerial]

Is it normal to feel a little burnt out on page 26 or have I been putting too much time in

This is a heavy reading game compared to most.
Also normally in newbies there's mostly a lim by this point... so it gets better!

Also reading other games, it looks like days sometimes get shorter over time with fewer people and more information at hand
Don't get the wrong idea, I'm really enjoying myself, just phew, a little more effort than I expected

[Val89]

635 makes me wish I was the hammer.

I'm sure you do, given that not knowing what the hell YOU (VFP) were playing at yesterday is the biggest red flag that makes me think we might be barrelling towards a mislim here.

[GrandpaMo]

you also pivoted ur vote from val to me. and this would have implied that you thought i was scummier. but still are bringing up the narrative that i could be scum wit val? so why pivot in the first place if there was a liable chance that i was scum wit val?

I thought you were scummier. Would you not vote somebody you thought was scummier than someone else?

yea but the problem wit that is that you never have to seem to pair me up wit val if i were scum -- this inconsistency with me being more scummier than val, then assuming t3 or cook could be my partner (someone who wasn't val i forgot) but you haven't provided a case on neither besides val in which you pivoted ur vote off from. so either this seems like a really really basic scum excuse where you just wanted to pivot onto me because i was already in a hot spot.

and that is what im trying understand.

i am still waiting for ur other answer.

[VFP]

635 makes me wish I was the hammer.

I'm sure you do, given that not knowing what the hell YOU (VFP) were playing at yesterday is the biggest red flag that makes me think we might be barrelling towards a mislim here.

You call it hell, I call it finding scum.
You're welcome.

[GrandpaMo]

@ Grandpa
Yeah, but like you said, the answer James gave was "it was a back up" which is different than "t3 is more/less likely than Val"

yeai was showing u how they have been deflecting etc

[Val89]

If the VC is correct, the hammer has to come from me, Alstro or Zyla

Correction: T3 is also a possible source of a non-self hammer vote here