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Post Post #7125 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:06 pm

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In post 7123, notscience wrote:no i m just sparing gamma
Gamma is fully capable of just checking out. I mean he can't have expected to rep into a town slot. I think he was just doing everyone a favor.
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Post Post #7126 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 pm

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im trying to be nice bell :(
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Post Post #7127 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:07 pm

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or wait this is kind
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Post Post #7128 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:10 pm

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bed now

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Post Post #7129 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:15 pm

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Spoiler: morph reads
In post 7061, morph the cat wrote:
In post 6632, morph the cat wrote:Here's stuff.... Updated to reflect new data. All of these reads ARE still in order, the higher within each tier, the stronger the town read.

Touch Not a Single Hair On Their HeadsMorph the Cat (fferyllt/Cabd) - Mod Confirmed

Bingle - Mod Confirmed

notscience - You will literally never convince us out of this read; meta, tone, style, the way our crumbing dance went, the way Mara's claim went down around him nodding at it

Bell - For {Bell_Alignment} get {postcount}. If {postcount}>50/Day -->Town; else-->Scum

Sigmund - Day One Wagon Compositions. Bravado in throwing down with scum on this list. Claim fits ours like yin and yang.


Break This Glass In Case of Lack of Endgame After The Lower Tiers All DieDunnstral - If Dunn is scum this game, he has not just like, ridden the bus, or driven the bus, he has become the metaphysical concept of all buses that have ever existed at any point in the universe. He probably should be a tier higher but eh. Not his style. He'd also be working harder to get our attention.

Dwlee99 - I fully admit this read is based more upon the meta tells of his predecessor. Guillo has a few tonal markers we look for and expect, and he hit all of them with not just a pass, but a pass with flying colors. Dwlee has done nothing but improve our opinion of the slot since.

WhemeStar - his level of caginess given what he's shared about his role still doesn't make sense, but he's towned it up in other ways, especially over the last 24 hours. He's hit a lot of town notes, but he hasn't really taken stands on players. He's expressed paranoia about the usual "scary" players, basically. New data here has him rocketed up to mid-yellow tier.

Chara - Chara has been wavering in ours reads list a lot. That said, the TSQ slot scum-claiming rockets them all the way to up here. I would be incredibly shocked if Chara is scum with TSQ, and this game doesn't have traitors per the public alignment counts, so there ya go. There have been a LOT of points recently, mostly in day three, that ffery and I found ourselves cheering for a Chara post.

Ircher - Ircher is most likely a vig here. I don't really think that scum has chip damage, a factional kill, AND an extra kill. That said, Ircher's continued stubbornness while once endearing has started to grate hard, and it's unlikely but NOT impossible that scum did have some sort of gates extrakill.


POE Murder List WinnersFarkran - The big thing we like about Farkran is how he's interacted with us given our speculations about his role, etc. The question this game is not "Does the neighborhood have scum in it" but "does the neighborhood have town in it?" Farkan's alignment hangs in the balance. I am assuming that the troubadour in scum-SS confers buffs and potentially protection to the pairing, and that might be worthy of using on an ally for the WIFOM and the gains. It would also be useful for assuring a townread from a townie, though!

Lady Lambdadelta - ~takes cover~ It's just hard to see people above as less town than she's been, and it's also hard to fit their shapes into a team with our other scumreads. She just feels like the puzzle piece that snaps the whole picture together. LLD is one of those reads that short of mod clears, belongs in contention until the game is over only as an acknowledgement that she is WAY capable of busing every single one of the fools unlucky enough to draw red with her right to the very end. Last episode's LLD-Scum sighting had her publicly obtain a dayvig and shoot her partner in the face with it for cred. We do not read her on the basis of emotions, not after Tenet, and not before Tenet either.

catboi/Noraa - the stacking damage role info sounds more like a scum ability to me, especially as compared to mara's SP steal. We empathize strongly with the anger/irritation from catboi about the role not being made clear enough and that softened ffery's read while he was here. I also feel like scum learning they'd used those abilities suboptimally would be super-pissed and able to channel some of that salt into a "town" roleclaim. The way he went about it though, feels town to me. I'm extremely conflicted. Noraa's play has hardened the read back up, though, and we still think this flips scum.


Murder On the Merits of ScummyT3 - Playing to scum meta, basically. We had mild but growing concerns about Shea on day 1/2, and initially thought the replace-out could have been a town-replace, but T3's play has put that thought to rest. Cabd has been his mod AND played against scum-him recently.


Flea the Magician - severe lack of interaction/acknowledgement of most of the game happenings. day 1 wagon hijinks (by hijinks, we're talking about the way Flea's wagon changed and moved when the competing wagons became Anya and Sigmund. We don't like the mostly meaningless catchups (see first point) See also: Deathcurse Regigigas but then keeps being useless after meta.



Something_Smart - lack of thread health maintenance, didn't chime in re all the troubadour discussion with notsci and speculation about a troubadour neighborhood (in contrast to the neighbor), pushes on us have felt both tentative and opportunistic, like shopping our vulnerability to the rest of the players and being noiser about it when others were expressing concerns about us. neuter and spayhalf gutvibes. Something_Smart is this game's Dandelion Wine, and I'm going to let Dunn do here what he SHOULD have done to Cephrir and I.


Something_Smart and Gamma slot have claimed
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VFP -> Farkran -> Ircher -> Chara ->Whemestar -> Dwlee99 -> Dunnstral -> Sigmund ->Bell -> notscience
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Post Post #7130 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:22 pm

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We'll share our night actions when the mass-claim is done.
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Post Post #7131 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 7087, Bell wrote:Chara defended Flea's meta and white fire's meta. So he's probably town.

Dunstrall clear imo.
yes, I'm going through the motions. I know.
hello, i'm here.

here to just listen to morph atp. sucks to suck. i've been talking myself out of correct reads all game.
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Post Post #7132 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:46 pm

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i mean, i guess they haven't been the
worst
, but for 3/3 defending every flipped scum at the time that they were getting flipped is... actually yeah it is the worst.
"Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
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Post Post #7133 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:47 pm

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In post 7132, Chara wrote:i mean, i guess they haven't been the
worst
, but for 3/3 defending every flipped scum at the time that they were getting flipped is... actually yeah it is the worst.
i don't know how 3 for 3 became for 3/3 but it sure diddley did.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #7134 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:48 pm

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going by that pattern LLD slot is basically confscum now.
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"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."
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Post Post #7135 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:13 pm

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Such is life. I sucked too.
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Post Post #7136 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 7073, Something_Smart wrote:I didn't take any actions. My only remaining ability is useless.
Your 3 SP ability?
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Post Post #7137 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:57 pm

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Yes. All it would do would be to make Fark's non-damaging actions unblockable for the next night, but he doesn't have any actions worth doing that on.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #7138 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:31 pm

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Hello!
Ego post.
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Post Post #7139 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:32 pm

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In post 7138, VFP wrote:Hello!
Ego post.
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Post Post #7140 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:34 pm

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Just kidding. Thanks for repping into a scum slot so we could get the show on the road.
Feel free to take a nice relaxing break.
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Post Post #7141 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:47 pm

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In post 7138, VFP wrote:Hello!
Ego post.
please claim.
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Post Post #7142 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:27 pm

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In post 7103, notscience wrote:I don't see where Nora's stops heal
In post 7049, unwnd wrote:1 Stack of Freeze - HP Gain is lowered by 1. Effect is additional by 1 for each stack applied.
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Post Post #7143 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:55 pm

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In post 7080, morph the cat wrote:We die at the end of this stratum FYI, but we don't have anything important left to say? At least I don't, lady ffery may wish to gloat on her own some to match mine.

Our solve is good. If game isn't voer after you murder all of VFP, Gamma, S_S, then murder fark. If game STILL isn't over, murder unwnd for bastard moderation.
Swap me with Chara and this should work

Ftr i attacked nora last night
Farkran is back poggers
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Post Post #7144 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:02 pm

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In post 7141, morph the cat wrote:please claim
I got punched last night :(
I'm a multi role I guess? I can attack someone or I can go ascetic.
I picked to go ascetic but was too late.

So what's what?
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Post Post #7145 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:34 pm

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Can your role do anything else?
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Post Post #7146 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:45 pm

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In post 7145, Dunnstral wrote:Can your role do anything else?
I have a passive that blocks the second non attack action on me.
Which I don't understand since I can be ascetic.
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Post Post #7147 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:49 pm

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OK.

It may be in our best boring interests to stop mass claim here and eliminate VFP and Gamma
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Post Post #7148 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:00 pm

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I disagree
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Post Post #7149 (ISO) » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:03 pm

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Actually I think this is like xenoblade 2 mafia and it doesn't matter. Eliminate VFP, nightkills stacked onto something_smart and t3. T3 should die if dealt mortal damage, right? And something_smart needs only 4 damage to die (supposedly), and with scum numbers dwindling I think we can coordinate 4 damage onto something_smart now.

I suspect T3 probably flips mafia. Something_smart I think is likely mafia as well, but that's not a lock for me, the role is sort of believable to me but I think he should indeed be flipped.

p-edit- I bet you do lol

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