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[Salsabil Faria]

Ah fuck it i was waiting on salsa to actually pull themselves deeper into the moonlogic they have developed on me because it doesnt feel genuine at all coming from them like they pulled out the meta of another player to say im scum when i literally was in that game as scum as well as played against them as scum too.
If I'm scum here I'm not trying to spew everyone who attakcs me as town. As town idgaf bc i dont have an agenda.
Shrek stating they were from more survivor oriented games makes sense for their reaction being more pacifying as i understand that survivor and such relies on making friends not enemies.

@Pavowski what do you think of Salsa thus far?
VOTE: Salsa

Seems to be tunneling on you. Feels early for that to me, but then apparently you two have history playing against (or with, or whatever) one another so maybe they spotted something that trips their radar?

I.am.tunneling.them.... I'll only believe them when I see the green flip.

Whats the definition of omgus?

... I had a lot to catch up on, so here are two separate walls rather than a really big one

we're all anime girls on the inside though

I wanna be a cute anime girl, so I'll agree with this

That doesn't make your read any less fabricated lol

Talking to koba/taco.

Don't you mean... Tacoba? Eh? (I'll show myself out)

VOTE: ssbm_kyouko there's no kyōko in melee... who are you??

When I played I dual mained Falco/Link

Smh, it's always Falco..

@T3 how do i know youre not an anime girl posing as someone with no profile picture

I have a weird thing about not wanting avatars than I can neither explain nor defend expect that it's an aesthetic.

Even his discord has the solid color avatar that blends into the dark mode background

Petition to turboelim Shrek

Write up a good length post on why (with citations) and I might consider it

my thought process behind this soft is that my role is not a power role and it will not hurt town that much if i get nightkilled for saying it. and claiming in the day and having more avenues looked at would be more beneficial than just focusing on me for the rest of it.

I assume that you mean that it's a

weak

power role? Or do you mean passive vs active type thing?
Either way, it's most likely better to wait until later in the day. If the thread runs out of discussion topics and you still think you need to claim, go for it, but right now it's almost

too

energetic, lol

[To everyone, is this color readable to you?]

Ye, thanks for asking

what's with the votes? Are they purely for meme purposes. I do not see the point in voting anyone on Day 1 after there have been no night actions performed. So I will not partake in any voting until Day 2 (if the Mafia doesn't kill me).

No, not meme purposes.

You'll place your vote on who you think is suspicious, then the conversation/argument will be going on about the vote or around the wagon, that's the way scumhunting happens here.

Not placing any vote on day 1 is suspicious + we have to eliminate someone in Day 1 and will use the flip info on Day 2.

So you're calling me suspicious because I don't want to risk lynching a town member? Which seems to be the case most of the time with these Day 1 lynches, based on the other games I've looked at. Out of the 5 players that have been voted I only have a high suspicion on one of them. I highly doubt either Taco or Salsabil are Mafia. I could say that placing a random vote on day 1 is suspicious and that the players placing votes are doing so to show themselves off as a confident

Town

member and draw attention off themselves. And seeing as there is no probable cause to most of the votes made so far, I will not partake.

Basically, we have a set amount of miseliminations (elims that land on town) before we lose the game. Half of the time, a no-elim reduces the amount of miselims we have left by one (same as a miselim does), so it's better to eliminate someone and have a

chance

of getting scum then to just avoid elimination altogether

VOTE: Zyla

LOL!

Why did you add my conversation with others also to vote her??

[Salsabil Faria]

Ah fuck it i was waiting on salsa to actually pull themselves deeper into the moonlogic they have developed on me because it doesnt feel genuine at all coming from them like they pulled out the meta of another player to say im scum when i literally was in that game as scum as well as played against them as scum too.
If I'm scum here I'm not trying to spew everyone who attakcs me as town. As town idgaf bc i dont have an agenda.
Shrek stating they were from more survivor oriented games makes sense for their reaction being more pacifying as i understand that survivor and such relies on making friends not enemies.

@Pavowski what do you think of Salsa thus far?
VOTE: Salsa

Seems to be tunneling on you. Feels early for that to me, but then apparently you two have history playing against (or with, or whatever) one another so maybe they spotted something that trips their radar?

I.am.tunneling.them.... I'll only believe them when I see the green flip.

Was going to finish catching up before commenting on this. Think I'm looking at projecting scum rn, but zyla's catchup compels me

You meant me by

projecting scum

ig?

But I don't understand the connection between me and

Zyla

here.

[LuciferMorningStar]

VOTE: Lucifier

I'm on a mission from God and I have a daycop guilty.

Lucifer probably flips scum here I agree

Because I believe it is stupid and unnecessary to vote when there have been no night actions performed? The risk if lynching a member of the town on a D1 lynch is higher then it is to lynch a Mafia, based on pretty much all of the other games I've had a look through. Seems like you are just throwning suspicions around.

The vote from Titus is even more bullshit. Is it because I haven't commented since Page 11. Take note I have a 16 hour gap where I'm not able to comment, 8 hours sleep and then 8 hours at work. During this time is when most people from the States are active, but seeing as I'm on the other side of the world, I am active when most players here are probably asleep.

[Salsabil Faria]

I'm here now.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Lucifier

I'm on a mission from God and I have a daycop guilty.

Lucifer probably flips scum here I agree

Because I believe it is stupid and unnecessary to vote when there have been no night actions performed? The risk if lynching a member of the town on a D1 lynch is higher then it is to lynch a Mafia, based on pretty much all of the other games I've had a look through. Seems like you are just throwning suspicions around.

The vote from Titus is even more bullshit. Is it because I haven't commented since Page 11. Take note I have a 16 hour gap where I'm not able to comment, 8 hours sleep and then 8 hours at work. During this time is when most people from the States are active, but seeing as I'm on the other side of the world, I am active when most players here are probably asleep.

It will literally always be more likely to randomly eliminate a townie than scum, and the other people that I am thinking you know that also had reservations about this style are at least trying to form reads and reactions but you have dug your heels into not doing anything. Look at other mini normals: you're not gonna be able to rely on a cop telling you who all the mafia are here.

[Taco Hemingway]

I personally was pinged when they came in and just voted seanzie - I was like ??? but now in retrospect it feels like a way to pocket the loudest player.

I just find that pressure towards that slot will be *enlightening* and I think there's a chance that pressure will crack their alignment early.

taco makes a good point there. it feels like kyouko came in and tried to pocket me, and as soon as he said his part dwlee immediately unvoted me, so i'm wondering if those two might be a pair together. if they are, i don't really have a clue who their third would be. idk man

VOTE: ssbm_kyouko

this is a complex thought that doesnt ever come from noobscum

You literally *just* planted this idea 4 posts ago. It's all a bit ironic wouldn't you say?

Not at all.

[Pavowski]

Now the game is a full day old, a quick-and-dirty sorting based mostly on my hugely unreliable gut.

In no particular order...

Town
Faria - Is overly aggressive on Taco, but I think that's because she saw something there she legitimately doesn't like. Feels like a scum misplay to go after somebody so hard so early.
Taco - Has picked fights with lots of people. Would feel like a scum misplay. Leans town as a result.
Shrek - His (probably inadvisable) softclaim to defuse pressure puts him here for now

Null town
Dwlee -- Feels like towny pressuring people to get reactions but just a gut feel
Kyouko -- Same as Dwlee
Zyla -- No real lean yet, but gut says town, so here she stands for now

True null
Titus -- I got nothin yet

Null scum
Sean -- Asking so many questions but not offering nearly as much info. Head says town sorting, gut says scum, can't really justify that tho
Tris -- No justifiable read yet, just a gut feeling pushing her slightly south of neutral

Scum
T3 -- my vote is currently here, for reasons I stated earlier. Posts are short and cryptic, and he's proud of that.
Lucifer -- Not really enough for a proper read, but the fact he's made only two posts (pedit -- now three) -- one of them with no content at all, just a quote -- feels deliberately withholding
Galaxis -- Again, not really enough for a proper read, but I am not sure I buy the way they're acting

Happy Thursday morning, tear me to pieces.

[Salsabil Faria]

UNVOTE: Titus

VOTE: Pavowski

[LuciferMorningStar]

Now the game is a full day old, a quick-and-dirty sorting based mostly on my hugely unreliable gut.

In no particular order...

Town
Faria - Is overly aggressive on Taco, but I think that's because she saw something there she legitimately doesn't like. Feels like a scum misplay to go after somebody so hard so early.
Taco - Has picked fights with lots of people. Would feel like a scum misplay. Leans town as a result.
Shrek - His (probably inadvisable) softclaim to defuse pressure puts him here for now

Null town
Dwlee -- Feels like towny pressuring people to get reactions but just a gut feel
Kyouko -- Same as Dwlee
Zyla -- No real lean yet, but gut says town, so here she stands for now

True null
Titus -- I got nothin yet

Null scum
Sean -- Asking so many questions but not offering nearly as much info. Head says town sorting, gut says scum, can't really justify that tho
Tris -- No justifiable read yet, just a gut feeling pushing her slightly south of neutral

Scum
T3 -- my vote is currently here, for reasons I stated earlier. Posts are short and cryptic, and he's proud of that.
Lucifer -- Not really enough for a proper read, but the fact he's made only two posts (pedit -- now three) -- one of them with no content at all, just a quote -- feels deliberately withholding
Galaxis -- Again, not really enough for a proper read, but I am not sure I buy the way they're acting

Happy Thursday morning, tear me to pieces.

Lol, what an absolute fucking joke mate. Just because I've only made three posts does not make me scum. You should realize that people have life's outside of this bloody game, even if you don't. On another note, did you put your Mafia buddies under town?

[LuciferMorningStar]

9 pages already wow. When I'm feeling a little more energetic (in about 3 hours) I will take my time to read through it. Anyway, what's with the votes? Are they purely for meme purposes. I do not see the point in voting anyone on Day 1 after there have been no night actions performed. So I will not partake in any voting until Day 2 (if the Mafia doesn't kill me).

If I think anyone is sus, It would have to be Pavowski. Dude comes in acting suspiciously over confident and forces a vote on Taco and stays completely silent after the arguing commences.

Hi all! May the odds be in your favor, unless you're mafia, in which case, a plague on your house.

The gods have dictated that I should VOTE: Taco to kick things off, and so I shall. Even though I love your username.

@Shrek, if you use the "reply" button instead of the quick reply box at the bottom of the page, there's a button above the text window labeled "Vote" that will automatically format your vote -- you just put the player's name in between the tags.

Also, that post you are refereeing to was more then just a quote. And the post of yours that is commented is still the scummiest post of the day.

[T3]

Now the game is a full day old, a quick-and-dirty sorting based mostly on my hugely unreliable gut.

In no particular order...

Town
Faria - Is overly aggressive on Taco, but I think that's because she saw something there she legitimately doesn't like. Feels like a scum misplay to go after somebody so hard so early.
Taco - Has picked fights with lots of people. Would feel like a scum misplay. Leans town as a result.
Shrek - His (probably inadvisable) softclaim to defuse pressure puts him here for now

Null town
Dwlee -- Feels like towny pressuring people to get reactions but just a gut feel
Kyouko -- Same as Dwlee
Zyla -- No real lean yet, but gut says town, so here she stands for now

True null
Titus -- I got nothin yet

Null scum
Sean -- Asking so many questions but not offering nearly as much info. Head says town sorting, gut says scum, can't really justify that tho
Tris -- No justifiable read yet, just a gut feeling pushing her slightly south of neutral

Scum
T3 -- my vote is currently here, for reasons I stated earlier. Posts are short and cryptic, and he's proud of that.
Lucifer -- Not really enough for a proper read, but the fact he's made only two posts (pedit -- now three) -- one of them with no content at all, just a quote -- feels deliberately withholding
Galaxis -- Again, not really enough for a proper read, but I am not sure I buy the way they're acting

Happy Thursday morning, tear me to pieces.

My posts are short and cryptic, correct. I'll try to change that this game but I do have a valid reason for my votes.

[T3]

Can someone condense the case on kyo or is there none?

[Dwlee99]

Lucifer do you intend to play when it isn't attacking people for thinking you're evil?

[Taco Hemingway]

Salsa unvote incoming :surprised:
VOTE: pavowski

[T3]

Now the game is a full day old, a quick-and-dirty sorting based mostly on my hugely unreliable gut.

In no particular order...

Town
Faria - Is overly aggressive on Taco, but I think that's because she saw something there she legitimately doesn't like. Feels like a scum misplay to go after somebody so hard so early.
Taco - Has picked fights with lots of people. Would feel like a scum misplay. Leans town as a result.
Shrek - His (probably inadvisable) softclaim to defuse pressure puts him here for now

Null town
Dwlee -- Feels like towny pressuring people to get reactions but just a gut feel
Kyouko -- Same as Dwlee
Zyla -- No real lean yet, but gut says town, so here she stands for now

True null
Titus -- I got nothin yet

Null scum
Sean -- Asking so many questions but not offering nearly as much info. Head says town sorting, gut says scum, can't really justify that tho
Tris -- No justifiable read yet, just a gut feeling pushing her slightly south of neutral

Scum
T3 -- my vote is currently here, for reasons I stated earlier. Posts are short and cryptic, and he's proud of that.
Lucifer -- Not really enough for a proper read, but the fact he's made only two posts (pedit -- now three) -- one of them with no content at all, just a quote -- feels deliberately withholding
Galaxis -- Again, not really enough for a proper read, but I am not sure I buy the way they're acting

Happy Thursday morning, tear me to pieces.

Lol, what an absolute fucking joke mate. Just because I've only made three posts does not make me scum. You should realize that people have life's outside of this bloody game, even if you don't. On another note, did you put your Mafia buddies under town?

hi dont be a dick thanks

[LuciferMorningStar]

Lucifer do you intend to play when it isn't attacking people for thinking you're evil?

"what an absolute fucking joke mate" is not an attack lul wtf are you on about? Surely you're not really that bloody sensitive. And that comment was overall about the post and where he's put people, not just about me being under "Scum"

hi dont be a dick thanks

LOL don't be such a sensitive fuck. <<<<Now that's being a dick. Saying "what an absolute fucking joke mate" really isn't that big of a deal Mr. Softie

[Dwlee99]

By attack I meant calling them evil...

[Pavowski]

Now the game is a full day old, a quick-and-dirty sorting based mostly on my hugely unreliable gut.

In no particular order...

Town
Faria - Is overly aggressive on Taco, but I think that's because she saw something there she legitimately doesn't like. Feels like a scum misplay to go after somebody so hard so early.
Taco - Has picked fights with lots of people. Would feel like a scum misplay. Leans town as a result.
Shrek - His (probably inadvisable) softclaim to defuse pressure puts him here for now

Null town
Dwlee -- Feels like towny pressuring people to get reactions but just a gut feel
Kyouko -- Same as Dwlee
Zyla -- No real lean yet, but gut says town, so here she stands for now

True null
Titus -- I got nothin yet

Null scum
Sean -- Asking so many questions but not offering nearly as much info. Head says town sorting, gut says scum, can't really justify that tho
Tris -- No justifiable read yet, just a gut feeling pushing her slightly south of neutral

Scum
T3 -- my vote is currently here, for reasons I stated earlier. Posts are short and cryptic, and he's proud of that.
Lucifer -- Not really enough for a proper read, but the fact he's made only two posts (pedit -- now three) -- one of them with no content at all, just a quote -- feels deliberately withholding
Galaxis -- Again, not really enough for a proper read, but I am not sure I buy the way they're acting

Happy Thursday morning, tear me to pieces.

Lol, what an absolute fucking joke mate. Just because I've only made three posts does not make me scum. You should realize that people have life's outside of this bloody game, even if you don't. On another note, did you put your Mafia buddies under town?

Jesus man. Notice I'm also a player with low post count in this game, hence me putting a lot of info out there to make up for it. Did you read any of the disclaimers? This is an early, low-information post about gut feels. I even said -- where I sus'd you -- "not really enough for a proper read".

Your over-the-top reaction sure is interesting, though.

[Pavowski]

UNVOTE: Titus

VOTE: Pavowski

Salsa unvote incoming :surprised:
VOTE: pavowski

Well I'm glad I was able to settle the beef between these two, I guess?

[Titus]

This is an odd game with so many newbies and hyperposters. I'm struggling to keep up.

I think Sabsil is town but it's a weaker read.

What's with you writing my name Use Faria, it's much better than Salsa, Sasil, Sabsil!!!

You shouldn't townread me, even if it's a weak read.... this is TMI for scum!you.

Why shouldn't I? I made a baseline to your prior game plus crap fights tend to be t v t.

[Titus]

VOTE: Lucifier

I'm on a mission from God and I have a daycop guilty.

Lucifer probably flips scum here I agree

Nah, I don't think so.

EBWOP

Why not?

[Titus]

It will literally always be more likely to randomly eliminate a townie than scum, and the other people that I am thinking you know that also had reservations about this style are at least trying to form reads and reactions but you have dug your heels into not doing anything. Look at other mini normals: you're not gonna be able to rely on a cop telling you who all the mafia are here.

Don't like either Lucifier or Dwelee here.

Dwelee is right in that Lucifer is trying to coast. It's not his lack of vote I object to its his lack of content.

However, Dwelee comments on Lucifier not being able to depend on a cop, which kinda suggests Dwelee knows Lucifer as town or wants to portray that.

[Titus]

Tempted to vote Pav because that readwall is bad but I am cautious about voting people because I disagree with them.

[Dwlee99]

It will literally always be more likely to randomly eliminate a townie than scum, and the other people that I am thinking you know that also had reservations about this style are at least trying to form reads and reactions but you have dug your heels into not doing anything. Look at other mini normals: you're not gonna be able to rely on a cop telling you who all the mafia are here.

Don't like either Lucifier or Dwelee here.

Dwelee is right in that Lucifer is trying to coast. It's not his lack of vote I object to its his lack of content.

However, Dwelee comments on Lucifier not being able to depend on a cop, which kinda suggests Dwelee knows Lucifer as town or wants to portray that.

I'm letting him know that if he is town he should start playing the game.

[Titus]

@Dwelee, I don't disagree with that part. I also said suggests rather than pushing it hard because the comment is not enough to lock you as scum.