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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:18 pm

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In post 2142, OkaPoka wrote:More context good for when we need it but seeing the flip did not make me go oooooh this means this then
Eh. CB flipping red makes me feel better about GL. Dusa town is pretty much solidified imo. I also think it means STD is town pretty solidly: If Yuri town, STD swung to a partner instead of town in a position where two partners were being wagoned and if Yuri scum that means EVERY D1 wagon was townled on scum, meaning both that scum never had any pushes of their own AND that they were just kind of okay with them being the only people under suspicion. I also think it should cool paranoia about me, but your mileage may vary.
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:58 pm

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I'm rethinking my Titus read based on that flip.
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 1:11 pm

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In post 2151, T3 wrote:I'm rethinking my Titus read based on that flip.
Why?
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:12 pm

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In post 2102, FakeGod wrote:scum team probably gave up halfway through day 1
That's probably why N_M couldn't be arsed to post.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:19 pm

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Day 3, it's time for my vote count coloring extravaganza.
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:21 pm

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In post 2147, T3 wrote:Lavar has no associatives. Flipping him gives nothing. He's null for me.
He never even voted.
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:35 pm

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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:40 pm

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LavarManos more like LavóManos
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:56 pm

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In post 2155, DrippingGoofball wrote:He never even voted.
I did, but I voted A50.
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:59 pm

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Gamma Emerald
(5): FakeGod,
Dannflor
,
Bell
, HypoTitus, TQoobee3
Dusa (1):
Gamma Emerald
(119)
Not Voting (11): Bingle, OkaPoka, Save The Dragons, GuiltyLion,
Not_Cupcake
, Dusa, DrippingGoofball, Yuri Gagarin, AlmostSolo, UNOwen, LavarManos

Gamma Emerald
(4): FakeGod, HypoTitus, TQoobee3, Save The Dragons
AlmostSolo (3): Dusa, GuiltyLion,
Dannflor

Save The Dragons (2): Bingle,
Bell

FakeGod (2): AlmostSolo ,
Gamma Emerald

Not_Cupcake
(1): UNOwen
GuiltyLion (1): Yuri Gagarin
Not Voting (4): OkaPoka,
Not_Cupcake
, DrippingGoofball, LavarManos

Save The Dragons (4): Bingle,
Bell
,
Dannflor
, TQoobee3
Gamma Emerald
(3): FakeGod, HypoTitus, Save The Dragons
AlmostSolo (2): Dusa, GuiltyLion
FakeGod (2): AlmostSolo,
Gamma Emerald

GuiltyLion (1): Yuri Gagarin
Not_Cupcake
(1): UNOwen
Not Voting (4): OkaPoka,
Not_Cupcake
, DrippingGoofball, LavarManos

Yuri Gagarin (5):
Bell
, OkaPoka, GuiltyLion, UNOwen, HypoTitus
Save The Dragons (4): Bingle, TQoobee3,
Gamma Emerald
, Dusa
GuiltyLion (3): Yuri Gagarin,
Dannflor
, Save The Dragons
Dannflor
(1): AlmostSolo
LavarManos (1): DrippingGoofball
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos, FakeGod

Yuri Gagarin (5):
Bell
, OkaPoka, GuiltyLion, UNOwen, HypoTitus
Not_Cupcake
(5): Bingle, FakeGod, DrippingGoofball,
Dannflor
, AlmostSolo
Save The Dragons (3): TQoobee3,
Gamma Emerald
, Dusa
GuiltyLion (2): Yuri Gagarin, Save The Dragons
Not Voting (2):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos

Yuri Gagarin (6):
Bell
, OkaPoka, GuiltyLion, UNOwen, HypoTitus, Dusa
Not_Cupcake
(5): Bingle, FakeGod, DrippingGoofball,
Dannflor
, AlmostSolo
GuiltyLion (2): Yuri Gagarin, Save The Dragons
Save The Dragons (1):
Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos, TQoobee3

Not_Cupcake
(4): Bingle, FakeGod, AlmostSolo,
Gamma Emerald

Yuri Gagarin (4):
Bell
, OkaPoka, UNOwen, HypoTitus
Gamma Emerald
(4): Dusa,
Dannflor
, DrippingGoofball, GuiltyLion
GuiltyLion (2): Yuri Gagarin, Save The Dragons
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos, TQoobee3

Gamma Emerald
(5): Dusa,
Dannflor
, DrippingGoofball, GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons
Not_Cupcake
(4): Bingle, FakeGod, AlmostSolo,
Gamma Emerald

Yuri Gagarin (4):
Bell
, OkaPoka, UNOwen, HypoTitus
GuiltyLion (1): Yuri Gagarin
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos, TQoobee3

Gamma Emerald
(9): Dusa,
Dannflor
, DrippingGoofball, GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, OkaPoka, TQoobee3, Yuri Gagarin, FakeGod
Not_Cupcake
(3): Bingle, AlmostSolo,
Gamma Emerald

Yuri Gagarin (2): UNOwen, HypoTitus
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos,
Bell


===================================

Yuri Gagarin (4): HypoTitus, UNOwen, OkaPoka, TQoobee3
TQoobee3 (3): GuiltyLion, Save The Dragons, AlmostSolo
Save The Dragons (1):
Bell

OkaPoka (1): Yuri Gagarin
AlmostSolo (1): Dusa
Not Voting (5): FakeGod, Bingle,
Not_Cupcake
, DrippingGoofball, LavarManos

Not_Cupcake
(5): Bingle, AlmostSolo, GuiltyLion,
Bell
, HypoTitus
Yuri Gagarin (2): UNOwen, OkaPoka
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
AlmostSolo (1): Dusa
HypoTitus (1): TQoobee3
Not Voting (5): FakeGod,
Not_Cupcake
, DrippingGoofball, LavarManos, Yuri Gagarin

Not_Cupcake
(5): Bingle, AlmostSolo, GuiltyLion,
Bell
, HypoTitus
AlmostSolo (4): FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, UNOwen
Yuri Gagarin (1): OkaPoka
Bingle (1): DrippingGoofball
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
HypoTitus (1): TQoobee3
Not Voting (2):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos

Not_Cupcake
(5): Bingle, AlmostSolo, GuiltyLion,
Bell
, HypoTitus
AlmostSolo (5): FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, UNOwen, DrippingGoofball
Yuri Gagarin (1): OkaPoka
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
HypoTitus (1): TQoobee3
Not Voting (2):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos

Not_Cupcake
(6): Bingle, AlmostSolo,
Bell
, HypoTitus, DrippingGoofball, TQoobee3
AlmostSolo (4): FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, UNOwen
Yuri Gagarin (1): OkaPoka
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos, GuiltyLion

AlmostSolo (5): FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, UNOwen, LavarManos
Not_Cupcake
(5): Bingle, AlmostSolo,
Bell
, HypoTitus, TQoobee3
Yuri Gagarin (1): OkaPoka
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, GuiltyLion, DrippingGoofball

Not_Cupcake
(6): Bingle, AlmostSolo, HypoTitus, TQoobee3,
Bell
, Yuri Gagarin
AlmostSolo (3): Dusa, UNOwen, LavarManos
LavarManos (1): DrippingGoofball
Yuri Gagarin (1): OkaPoka
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, GuiltyLion, FakeGod

Not_Cupcake
(8): Bingle, HypoTitus, TQoobee3,
Bell
, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, AlmostSolo, UNOwen
AlmostSolo (2): LavarManos, GuiltyLion
TQoobee3 (1): Save The Dragons
Yuri Gagarin (1): OkaPoka
LavarManos (1): DrippingGoofball
Not Voting (2):
Not_Cupcake
, FakeGod
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:19 pm

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Notes for Day 1.

Not_Cupcake is 5 v 5 votes against Yuri Gagarin. Dusa tips the scale in favor of Not_Cupcake to Yuri Gagarin, making it 6 vs 5.

At the time Bingle, FakeGod, DrippingGoofball, Dannflor, AlmostSolo are voting for scum.
OkaPoka, GuiltyLion, UNOwen, HypoTitus, Dusa are voting the the unknown alignment player.

The Yuri wagon loses steam, and then we have this thrilling situation:
Not_Cupcake
(4): Bingle, FakeGod, AlmostSolo,
Gamma Emerald

Yuri Gagarin (4):
Bell
, OkaPoka, UNOwen, HypoTitus
Gamma Emerald
(4): Dusa,
Dannflor
, DrippingGoofball, GuiltyLion
GuiltyLion (2): Yuri Gagarin, Save The Dragons
Not Voting (3):
Not_Cupcake
, LavarManos, TQoobee3

SaveTheDragons then unvotes GuiltyLion and piles on Gamma, tipping the scale to the scum wagon.


Notes for Day 2.


Not_Cupcake was nearly always a top wagon.

Here the counter wagon is AlmostSolo.

Not_Cupcake (5): Bingle, AlmostSolo, GuiltyLion, Bell, HypoTitus
AlmostSolo (4): FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, UNOwen

Then TQoobee3 and myself tip the scale to the scum wagon:

Not_Cupcake (6): Bingle, AlmostSolo, Bell, HypoTitus, DrippingGoofball, TQoobee3
AlmostSolo (4): FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, Dusa, UNOwen

But then there's a bigger push by Bell and Yuri:
Not_Cupcake (6): Bingle, AlmostSolo, HypoTitus, TQoobee3, Bell, Yuri Gagarin
AlmostSolo (3): Dusa, UNOwen, LavarManos

with LavarManos finally voting, but for the scum counter wagon.

Town points
for Dusa +, Bingle +, FakeGod, AlmostSolo ++, DrippingGoofball ++, GuiltyLion, SaveTheDragons +, Yuri Gagarin, HypoTitus, TQoobee3 +
Scum points
for OkaPoka, Dusa, UNOwen, HypoTitus, FakeGod, Yuri Gagarin, LavarManos

UNOwen and OkaPoka's voting records deserve greater scrutiny.

LavarManos has yet to do anything townie.
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:24 pm

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uh oh dgb you dont think im town?!
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:25 pm

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This setup is extremely bus friendly so you can only trust wagon analysis up to a certain point. DGBs effort is towny because it's looking at the bare facts of what happened.
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:28 pm

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i wonder if this is going to be baton pass v2 where scum "gave up", pretty much all bussed each other, basically are going to lose, but then we are going to lose to some wildly unethical plays. too bad bell was town because he was the prime slot to violate his own tells.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:28 pm

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UNOwen


Early Day 1, starts with a
vanity wagon
on scum
Not_Cupcake
. Unvotes for a while. Then gets stuck on a Yuri Gagarin wagon.

Day 2, very scumconsistent, starts where left off with a Yuri Gagarin vote. Switches to AlmostSolo all day, but comes in with a hammer on Not_Cupcake. This hammer is suspicious.
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:30 pm

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Interactions between Gamma and UNOwen:
In post 926, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 863, Bell wrote:
In post 861, Gamma Emerald wrote:Bell/UNOwen why are you voting Yuri rn?
I felt like he was kind of flailing when I pushed at him. Calling people chad's, calling me boring etc. It all seemed designed to discredit me through indirect ad hominems. Or however you spell it.

Pedit: Okay.
Jsyk the boring tell kinda flopped in between now and G&R5
In post 1193, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1148, UNOwen wrote:
In post 1142, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1131, Dusa wrote:It looks like the people who posted since Gamma Emerald's last spree are Cupcake Butterfly and Almost50!
I think that spree is so bad that people who did not vote him for it are likely to also be bad!
This post itself looks haphazardly written in a way that doesn’t flow naturally
The logical way to write this is “I think Gamma’s last string of posts was bad, these people are suspect for not thinking the same thing”
I feel like Dusa may be trying to deflect attention from actual scum with this maneuver
Do you think that post is particularly haphazardly written in the context of the rest of Dusa's ISO?
Yeah
Everything else I’ve seen at least seemed to have proper logical flow even if I couldn’t focus in on it
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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DGB, how does your scumputer look with the assumption that Yuri is also scum. My VCA points heavily that way.
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:32 pm

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Interactions between Not_Cupcake and UNOwen:
In post 815, Cupcake Butterfly wrote:
In post 814, UNOwen wrote:
In post 813, Cupcake Butterfly wrote:UNOwen, your approach towards me seems very indirect. You go back and forth between parking a vote, but you don't follow up with questions, arguments, or ideas.
True. I think it's notable that no-one has challenged me on it, including you until now.
I wanted to see where you would take it, or if anyone else would bite at the opportunity to wagon. It's hard to look at a naked vote and think much of it.
"I am reluctant to list anyone on my wagon until the game almost or has completed, but here is where my brain is going:
{Dusa, UNOwen, Oka, Bell, Lavar}
is my pool currently.
But to pretense this, I don't believe my wagon is full of scum, maybe 2 maximum"
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 2162, T3 wrote:This setup is extremely bus friendly so you can only trust wagon analysis up to a certain point. DGBs effort is towny because it's looking at the bare facts of what happened.
Already discrediting the VCA and I haven't even posted it.
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 2163, OkaPoka wrote:where scum "gave up", pretty much all bussed each other
I don't believe there was bus'ing on Day 2, with the possible exception of UNOwen's hammer on Not_Cupcake.
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:35 pm

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does t3 know about your vca? i think he's presuming that you are going analyze whether someone voted scum or not
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 2170, OkaPoka wrote:does t3 know about your vca? i think he's presuming that you are going analyze whether someone voted scum or not
I presume anyone who isn't a new joiner knows about my VCA.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:38 pm

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OkaPoka

A non-voter for a big part of Day 1, then got stuck on Yuri Gagarin. Sixth vote out of nine on the Gamma wagon - kinda last minute.

Day 2, very scumconsistently like UNOwen, starts day 2 where he left off and votes Yuri Gagarin. DOES NOT BUDGE ALL DAY.
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:39 pm

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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:42 pm

Post by T3 »

In post 2171, Titus wrote:
In post 2170, OkaPoka wrote:does t3 know about your vca? i think he's presuming that you are going analyze whether someone voted scum or not
I presume anyone who isn't a new joiner knows about my VCA.
And not the vca... directly above that post? LMAO VOTE: titus

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