FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over

[Servant Berserker]

Subject: FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt (Game Over!)

As mafia, I see two valid approaches. One is to try and elect one of your own and bank on the powerups, and playing 10-3 with uber-charged roles. That one is good if you think your mafia team is all of equal skill, or you have three powerful players and one weaker player that you feel can be successfully "obvtowned" enough for a masterization.

The other approach, and the one that I would have taken with a mafia PM this game, is to drive the master onto somebody from the town who is unlikely to properly use the newfound status. Take a player who is good at appearing town but is lurky, or lazy, or divisive. Argue HARD that you're worried about mafia getting the role so you'd rather the obvtown lurksack, over the charismatic person who could be really good mafia. In this game, I would have been trying to drive the master powers HARD onto Foreigner, Berserker, or Caster.

Does this sound like anyone in this game so far?

Pedit-
I would like to be the master.

[Servant Saber]

yes I think whoever thinks their NP would be very strong should volunteer for it.

My NP is one of the strongest in the game, if used correctly and early. It's totally weaksauce if used late and arguably detrimental.

[Servant Caster]

VOTE: Saber

sold

[Servant Beast]

VOTE: Saber

[Servant Alter Ego]

I think choosing a townread who'd work well as conftown is preferable to selecting anyone for mechanical reasons. The influence of an IC and the double elimination outweighs any mechanical consideration based on people's roles.

[Servant Archer]

Guys and girls and all other manner of fauna and flora.
When I said don't give information away, I meant it. This includes hinting at the strength of your abilities.

I don't think that we should be talking about how strong our abilities are over all - but, we each have 4 abilities, and we are only vaguely talking about our NP.

Like, me for example, I am not saying that my NP is weak or strong, but I don't think that is benefits much from being charged early. So I am fine letting mine fill naturally.

[Servant Archer]

VOTE: Saber

[Servant Lancer]

I’m coming around to the idea that we should be aiming to hit town more than we care about the NP of whoever gets it.

[Servant Archer]

Actually UNVOTE:

[Servant Foreigner]

Guten tag, I am Foreigner so I don't speak English well

[Servant Caster]

I don't think it's that bad if we hit mafia tbh

[Servant Archer]

My NP is one of the strongest in the game, if used correctly and early.

You know how the power level of your NP compares to other peoples?

[Servant Beast]

I think I'd prefer having a town player in the slot.

[Servant Alter Ego]

I want to be the master. My strength is in the early game and I don't particularly like my noble phantasm.

But one of the upsides to being the master is being able to use your noble phantasm right away. Wouldn't it make sense to let someone who wants to use theirs have it, then?

Using mine right away is better than using it later.

I want to use mine to reinforce my reads and improve thread cohesion. It's much better used in the early game than late.

I see. I'm not sure why exactly you don't like it, then. Do you believe you'd be a good leader?

[Servant Foreigner]

No sane player should want to be IC. It sucks

[Servant Lancer]

I don't think it's that bad if we hit mafia tbh

all mafia role PMs get “upgraded to much stronger versions” and they all get *****. I would say that’s pretty strong

[Servant Caster]

I prefer getting a town master but removing a scum early and getting the information/interactions is also pretty helpful.

[Servant Berserker]

That is the first post caster has made that I agree with. Town master is the first priority, but we aren’t up a creek without a paddle if it hits scum.

[Servant Caster]

all mafia role PMs get “upgraded to much stronger versions” and they all get *****. I would say that’s pretty strong

I think from the Moderator post that all that happens is they get ***** and get ** instead of * every turn? But there is one of them removed from the game right off the bat.

[Servant Saber]

I’m coming around to the idea that we should be aiming to hit town more than we care about the NP of whoever gets it.

I agree with this partially. Aiming for the towniest voice who wants to be the master is best. By filtering out those who don't want to be master, we're left with town who want to be master and scum. For the scum who fail to get master, they have to justify later in the game why they wanted their NP filled up.

[Servant Foreigner]

The best way to elect master would be to give it to person, who steals the most page tops as this person has to be active and vocal

[Servant Archer]

I prefer getting a town master but removing a scum early and getting the information/interactions is also pretty helpful.

I mean, yeah. Hitting mafia is not the end of the game, but hitting town is definitely better.

So, its fine to have a "if we miss, its not the end of the world" attitude, but we should definitely be aiming for town

[Servant Caster]

Personally I don't really enjoy leading because my reads can be quite terrible at times when I'm off and I would feel incredibly bad about leading town down the wrong direction if I got master'd and then promptly mis-elimmed two players (*_*);;

[Servant Lancer]

We still get interactions and information from the IC slot, and we could use the double elim on D1 to achieve almost the same thing except then they don’t get to stay as a stump to advise their team, and the scumteam don’t get the upgraded roles, and they also don’t get basically free NPs immediately

[Servant Lancer]

If a scum Master is selected, that mafia member immediately flips and exits the main game thread. The three remaining members of mafia have their role PMs upgraded to much stronger versions of their existing abilities, while the flipped member of the mafia remains in the scum PT, allowed to advise and lead the team.

You will immediately treestump, allowed to remain in the mafia PT but not the game thread. All mafia players will immediately gain ***** (You cannot exceed your NP's max charge). For the rest of the game, all mafia players will gain one additional * at daystart.