In post 2337, GuiltyLion wrote:it doesn't feel like you're really disagreeing with Oka? I don't think A50/UNOwen has enough towncred to be one of the last two players alive here so it feels like you're arguing for both these points simultaneously:
a) you shouldn't be seen as scummy, because you haven't been trying to capitalize/benefit from the easy D1/D2 scum eliminations, and it's wrong to think that scum is likely just coasting to a loss here
but also
b) T3/Lavar both scummy and last scum could be in A50/UNOwen
and I just don't think A50/UNOwen have tried all that hard either, and this b) conclusion feels a little incongruent with your points around a) in debate with Oka
Does that make sense?
Why should we give you credit for clearly not manipulating the gamestate, yet deny any of that credit to UNOwen, for example?
broadly:
maybe it's as easy as both being in T3/lavar
and the final is in A50/Unowen who are at least trying, I think, to look town
I think it is borderline inevitable that those 4 players + me all get limmed and so if that PoE is correct, great, game over
but I think that after limming, let's say, (T3, lavar, me) and hitting 2 scum max the shots are going to start hitting through the PoE and that's when I think assuming there's no gameplay on behalf of scum is dumb and that they aren't setting up with some sort of plan -- essentially it's a request to town not forget about (you, dusa, bingle) once all the "obvious" scum are dead and it becomes apparent that the scum gameplay wasn't "let's just lose"
