Micro 1019: Dead Silence GAME OVER!

[Nathann]

Has any one of you thought about having a conversation with me?

what was boring about page 10?

It was basically nothing but setup speculation, based on practically no information. I cannot get anything alignment indicative out of it, and it doesn't help us solve the setup because, again, page ten, no actual information.

[Nathann]

VOTE: nathan
Too towny to be town.

What does this even mean? How do you arrive at me being scum because I'm "too Towny"?

[thana]

It was basically nothing but setup speculation, based on practically no information. I cannot get anything alignment indicative out of it, and it doesn't help us solve the setup because, again, page ten, no actual information.

hm

how do you generally try to determine if someone is informed

[thana]

how do you generally try to determine if someone is informed

like if you think an encryptor is unlikely, what does us talking about one mean to you

[Nathann]

how do you generally try to determine if someone is informed

like if you think an encryptor is unlikely, what does us talking about one mean to you

I try to determine informedness the way I've been trying to the whole game - reading into people's posts, their votes, motivations and mindsets behind those, trajectories, etc. At least while we do not have flips. The fact that I've largely been getting ignored is annoying.

All it means to me is that you're taking up thread space with pointless discussion. If I had to come up with something, I could say that you're more likely to be scum because you're focusing on non-AI discussions, but then this game would have 7-8 scum. I don't give Town points for talking about an Encryptor when I think one is unlikely because it's not rocket science to be able to fake that as scum.

[Nathann]

This is a closed setup, and a bastard game at that. Nothing about the setup speculation is AI to me right now, when I don't know what the setup is.

[thana]

All it means to me is that you're taking up thread space with pointless discussion. If I had to come up with something, I could say that you're more likely to be scum because you're focusing on non-AI discussions, but then this game would have 7-8 scum. I don't give Town points for talking about an Encryptor when I think one is unlikely because it's not rocket science to be able to fake that as scum.

?? why would it mean town points if you find the encryptor to be unlikely? like i do not think this is in the game -> why didn't they reach a similar conclusion =/ town

but sure, pointless discussion if you'd like, they all are really

[Nathann]

?? why would it mean town points if you find the encryptor to be unlikely?

Assuming I am correct about the Encryptor, an argument could be made:

Someone speculating about an Encryptor is more likely to be a Townie genuinely speculating about Scum power (that they don't know anything about), rather than Scum who's fake speculating about Scum power (that they know Scum doesn't have).

I thought that's the train of thought what you were aiming for when you asked me what does speculation about the Encryptor mean to me if I think one is unlikely. However, I'm saying I don't really believe that, because I think Scum fake speculating about something like that is not difficult to fake.

but sure, pointless discussion if you'd like, they all are really

It's pointless to me. Did you get anything about bugspray's alignment out of the discussion on page ten?

Though, now that I'm at my laptop and not working from memory, I'll admit to being wrong about page ten only being "setup speculation", as there was also discussion about that post from an old game. Doesn't change the fact it didn't help me sort either of you, but still putting it out there.

[thana]

Someone speculating about an Encryptor is more likely to be a Townie genuinely speculating about Scum power (that they don't know anything about), rather than Scum who's fake speculating about Scum power (that they know Scum doesn't have).

I thought that's the train of thought what you were aiming for when you asked me what does speculation about the Encryptor mean to me if I think one is unlikely. However, I'm saying I don't really believe that, because I think Scum fake speculating about something like that is not difficult to fake.

the encryptor wouldn't have to be scum power and also could be like 'enables talk in general' as opposed to 'daytalk' to solve your all pts have daytalk objection, though the other issues still stand

wasn't aiming for a train a thought, wanted to see how you think about these things

It's pointless to me. Did you get anything about bugspray's alignment out of the discussion on page ten?

Though, now that I'm at my laptop and not working from memory, I'll admit to being wrong about page ten only being "setup speculation", as there was also discussion about that post from an old game. Doesn't change the fact it didn't help me sort either of you, but still putting it out there.

bugspray's discovery of me being me felt untimely, bugspray's reaction to the post made me doubt that theory more than either vfp/dwlee did, though vfp/dwlee mirrored reactions probably noteworthy, i do not know how to weigh those things,

[thana]

bugspray's discovery of me being me felt untimely, bugspray's reaction to the post made me doubt that theory more than either vfp/dwlee did, though vfp/dwlee mirrored reactions probably noteworthy, i do not know how to weigh those things,

and maybe i have more of an understanding as to where the neighbour conclusion came from?

[bugspray]

oh fyck i said encryptor enabler when i meant enryptor because how how i think about setup design around encryptors


hey is there anyone out there with a bastard role that wants to come out and say my role is bastard?

i'm a little scared this is a true normal and the bastardness is claiming that there's something bastard about it which is probably the most cruel form of bastardness

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Official Vote Count

Nathann

(2): Momrangal, T3

Menalque

(1): Nathann

T3

(1): bugspray

Momrangal

(1): VFP

bugspray

(1): BurgerParty

thana

(1): Dwlee99

Dwlee99

(1): Menalque

Not Voting

(1): thana

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-07-10 19:00:00)

[T3]

VOTE: dwlee

[Nathann]

the encryptor wouldn't have to be scum power and also could be like 'enables talk in general' as opposed to 'daytalk' to solve your all pts have daytalk objection, though the other issues still stand

I didn't even think of Encryptors possibly being Town aligned, so that even further kills any trace of "the talk about Encryptors is maybe, vaguely, if you squint, +town".

hey is there anyone out there with a bastard role that wants to come out and say my role is bastard?

Hey, do you instead want to talk about why you voted me in 287 after 3 hours of silence, only to jump off my wagon as soon as someone else joined it?

[bugspray]

Hey, do you instead want to talk about why you voted me in 287 after 3 hours of silence, only to jump off my wagon as soon as someone else joined it?

read my signature

[VFP]

VOTE: dwlee

I'm pretty sure Dwlee is town.

[Nathann]

Hey, do you instead want to talk about why you voted me in 287 after 3 hours of silence, only to jump off my wagon as soon as someone else joined it?

read my signature

You can take 30 seconds to backtrack, skim the page or two prior to your vote, and try to figure out what you were thinking.

[bugspray]

You can take 30 seconds to backtrack, skim the page or two prior to your vote, and try to figure out what you were thinking.

I literally can't.

[Nathann]

You did not even try.

[Dwlee99]

VFP I still need you to towncase t3 here.

[VFP]

Can I do it tomorrow?
I feel like shit today and was about to go to bed!

I do have games to back up my T3 meta to show though.

[bugspray]

You did not even try.

not gonna waste my time

[bugspray]

how likely is dwlee and vfp scumteam?

[Nathann]

Dwlee, how strong is your mysterious Townread of bugspray here? Because I don't think I'm seeing it, chief.

[Dwlee99]

Yeah sure VFP.

And Nathan: 100%