FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over

[Cabd]

With 14 players alive, it will take 8 votes to burn a servant.

Saber (4): Alter Ego, Rider, Archer, Moon Cancer
Foreigner (3): Avenger, Beast, Ruler
Moon Cancer (3): Foreigner, Saber, Lancer

Deadline: (expired on 2021-07-12 00:17:51)


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[Servant Saber]

The last, and only, specific reason to scumread Alter came from post 238. I don't find it convincing. How has that read matured over time and what specific posts can you point to as to support your conclusions?

That read has not changed. It is fully based on the early posts on Alter Ego having more evasive words in their posts than any normal townie. And no post of Alter Ego after that time has caused me to reconsider.

I think we have gotten everything we could have before the first elimination. We should move on.

Why are you in such a hurry? Why are you supposing that you aren't getting eliminated? In these types of games, the stump rules. What we say is just advice.

[Servant Saber]

I'm back here: VOTE: moon cancer

I think foreigner is town.

I think foreigner and saber both voting moon cancer and then both becoming counterwagons to moon cancer is probably town-indicative for them and scum-indicative for moon cancer, on average. (although saber could still be scum, I think moon cancer is most likely of the 3 to be scum regardless of saber's alignment). I thought saber's NP stuff was a bit oblivious and have no idea whether that's intentional or not, but on second thought I don't think I think it's inherently scummy.

I like this as its where I am at as well. Moon Caster's cavalierness (if that's a word) suggests a scumteam backing them.

[Servant Saber]

updated-ish reads

our lord and savior: Berserker
probtown: Alter/Archer/Caster/Shielder/Rider/Ruler/Foreigner
null-ish: Assassin/Saber/Beast
probscum: Avenger/Moon Cancer

I'd move Ruler down to null, Avenger up to Null

But Beast Avenger Moon Caster Assassin doesn't feel like a scumteam so these are individual reads not team based.

[Servant Beast]

Is there some reason you're not responding to my posts but pretty much everyone else's? Is it not interesting or worth commenting on?

[Servant Saber]

I'm not interested in moving off Saber when they haven't really responded to the votes on them or being wagoned at all. Also, the narrative of them being a "counterwagon" to Moon Cancer doesn't really track - 3 of the voters on Saber were common ith the ones on Moon Cancer - Me, Lancer, and Rider.

That's pretty fair. I hadn't responded due to life and demotivation with this game. Either I lost it for us by losing master or I was largely irrelevant and an easy place to push.

[Servant Saber]

Is there some reason you're not responding to my posts but pretty much everyone else's? Is it not interesting or worth commenting on?

Both. Sorry.

[Servant Beast]

That's fine. I'm just wondering if you're working on false associations for later if you get flipped.

[Servant Saber]

That's fine. I'm just wondering if you're working on false associations for later if you get flipped.

*shrug* That's putting the cart before the non-existent horse.

[Servant Beast]

Not really, sometimes people can react in ways that give the game away if you just confront them about it.
I don't really think that happened here. Or at least, it's not obvious.

[Servant Alter Ego]

Meh.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Moon Cancer

[Servant Alter Ego]

I had been hoping that with the holiday being over, the game would pick up in activity, but that doesn't quite seem to be happening.

[Servant Saber]

I for one had a stack of work waiting for me. I wouldn't be surprised if I was the only one.

[Servant Alter Ego]

Sorry about that, hope the work's going all right for you.

[Servant Berserker]

Where is the president?

I would like him to weigh in on the three wagons

Just got home from visiting family over the past two days. Saber wagon is my wagon of choice. Followed by moon. I think the foreigner wagon is trash.

[Servant Berserker]

I hadn’t weighed in before now to try and preserve VCA as best as possible, but I think it’s 100% ridiculous that was the role Saber was so gung ho over.

Foreigners wagon has very little in actual substance about why he could be scum and appeared out of almost nowhere, and that put me off.

[Servant Berserker]

Caster, your disappearance is incredibly unnerving and I need to see more things from you ASAP.

Archer and Lancer are still town, Ruler is town, alter is town. Shielder is town.

Rider is leaning town, I quite enjoyed their wall. Caster disappearing is concerning.

[Servant Beast]

Sure, Berserker. Do you want me to vote Saber?

[Servant Berserker]

As long as it’s in Saber or moon I’m happy.

[Servant Beast]

VOTE: Saber

[Servant Archer]

As long as it’s in Saber or moon I’m happy.

I feel like the issue is that we are pretty split amongst the two -- and need you to help us consolidate

[Servant Berserker]

Saber. I think that flip will provide tons of information even if wrong. But it’s mind boggling to me to view that play from town.

[Servant Saber]

Should I just claim then? I know I'm not L minus 1 but we are approaching the mid point.

[Servant Archer]

I'll fullclaim if Berserker determines it necessary, not before then. If that means I don't fullclaim, so be it. It's his town now.

@Berserker -- Do you think we should have Saber fullclaim?

[Servant Alter Ego]

The day's halfway done, we really ought to be getting to our first flip. I think you should claim.