I did answer.In post 1142, Servant Lancer wrote:Answer this too please.In post 1104, Servant Lancer wrote:Avenger, no one else has claimed the same NP as you and saber. why are you not voting for saber? why would you gladiate foreigner and not saber?
Yes, because your gladiate is a fucking scumclaimIn post 1148, Servant Avenger wrote:Okay perfect.In post 1141, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Yes, you're scum, he's town, that's obviously what I meant, shut the fuck up
So this is someone hard defending foreigner.
So your "there is 100% scum between the two of us" is basically, you are really really sure of your read?In post 1129, Servant Avenger wrote:On that I'm right here.In post 1127, Servant Alter Ego wrote:100% scum based on...?
I'm genieunly good with this, even more so when people use bullshit reasons to try and force a push.
And I can say that because if I flip scum it means fuck all.
If I flip town, then what I'm saying has merit.
I'm getting scum caught.In post 1144, Servant Archer wrote:I had foreigner as scum in my scum list, but this play makes me want to vote for Avenger
And, it makes me want to eliminate Moon with the second elim of the day.
Avenger, I am not sure what you were thinking here.
Maybe he thought that Berserker moving the lim away from me would look like scum trying to force it back.In post 1147, Servant Lancer wrote:Avenger - You previously stated that if only you and saber had the same NP, that you would assume it would be one town and one scum, so saber should be near-confirmed scum to town!you now since no one else has claimed anything similar. Why would you ever gladiate someone else?
I answered this.In post 1147, Servant Lancer wrote:Avenger - You previously stated that if only you and saber had the same NP, that you would assume it would be one town and one scum, so saber should be near-confirmed scum to town!you now since no one else has claimed anything similar. Why would you ever gladiate someone else?
First you accuse me because i 'shade' you and now you accuse me because i don't put effort on you.In post 1145, Servant Avenger wrote:So you didn't want to put any effort it? Got it.In post 1139, Servant Foreigner wrote:My vote was on Moon, because there was support for his death. I wish you had that support, so i could switch but i had more then one SR, so no reason to waste my vote.In post 1113, Servant Avenger wrote:foreigner has been sitting in the back, asking why I'm not at E1 while still not voting me there? Just shading instead of actually reading and actually happy where the votes are going.
I mentioned Berserker because you took an action that explicitly undermined his views as town leader for what seems like a bad reason compared to the opportunity you had to gladiate saber who should be near-confirmed scum to you. I also trust his reads, but the main point here is that this action is inherently anti-town for opposing the town leader and forcing the elim like this.In post 1143, Servant Avenger wrote:I want to point out here that Berzerker is mentioned when giving the read on foreigner because they are confirmed town, correct?In post 1136, Servant Lancer wrote:Foreigner is town. Berserker had them as town. Berserker had just announced that moon cancer was going to be his chosen first elim.
This gladiate is either the most anti-town shit you could have pulled, or just scum.
Meaning that that view is genuine and there for should be listened to.
So if I am to flip town, where does this leave the read in your view? Given that my thoughts are equally as geniuen.
THIS IS LITERALLY THE ONLY TIME AVENGER MENTIONED MOON CANCER BEFORE THE GLADAITE.In post 234, Servant Avenger wrote:Moon Cancer just looks to be keeping options open there.
What tiers do you have for those names, Moon Cancer?
And your defending of scum is a scum claim.In post 1151, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Yes, because your gladiate is a fucking scumclaimIn post 1148, Servant Avenger wrote:Okay perfect.In post 1141, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Yes, you're scum, he's town, that's obviously what I meant, shut the fuck up
So this is someone hard defending foreigner.
This bullshit is why my NP is one of the most powerful in the game. If Avenger didn't have a gladiate, he'd spam out and demotivate the game. That has to be prevented.In post 1152, Servant Archer wrote:So your "there is 100% scum between the two of us" is basically, you are really really sure of your read?In post 1129, Servant Avenger wrote:On that I'm right here.In post 1127, Servant Alter Ego wrote:100% scum based on...?
I'm genieunly good with this, even more so when people use bullshit reasons to try and force a push.
And I can say that because if I flip scum it means fuck all.
If I flip town, then what I'm saying has merit.
Jesus Christ.
You are so sure of your read that you decided to halt the plans for the entirety of the town.
I agree, even if you are town, this is the most anti-town play you could have made
Suck me from the backIn post 1159, Servant Avenger wrote:And your defending of scum is a scum claim.In post 1151, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Yes, because your gladiate is a fucking scumclaimIn post 1148, Servant Avenger wrote:Okay perfect.In post 1141, Servant Alter Ego wrote:Yes, you're scum, he's town, that's obviously what I meant, shut the fuck up
So this is someone hard defending foreigner.
There's no way that foreigner ever flips town. I'm telling you this.In post 1152, Servant Archer wrote:So your "there is 100% scum between the two of us" is basically, you are really really sure of your read?In post 1129, Servant Avenger wrote:On that I'm right here.In post 1127, Servant Alter Ego wrote:100% scum based on...?
I'm genieunly good with this, even more so when people use bullshit reasons to try and force a push.
And I can say that because if I flip scum it means fuck all.
If I flip town, then what I'm saying has merit.
Jesus Christ.
You are so sure of your read that you decided to halt the plans for the entirety of the town.
I agree, even if you are town, this is the most anti-town play you could have made
Shade isn't effort, let's not kid ourselves here.In post 1156, Servant Foreigner wrote:First you accuse me because i 'shade' you and now you accuse me because i don't put effort on you.In post 1145, Servant Avenger wrote:So you didn't want to put any effort it? Got it.In post 1139, Servant Foreigner wrote:My vote was on Moon, because there was support for his death. I wish you had that support, so i could switch but i had more then one SR, so no reason to waste my vote.In post 1113, Servant Avenger wrote:foreigner has been sitting in the back, asking why I'm not at E1 while still not voting me there? Just shading instead of actually reading and actually happy where the votes are going.
I mean, this happened right before the gladiate:In post 1149, Servant Saber wrote:VOTE: Avenger
Hijacking the thread when there's a uniform townblock is just a scumclaim. Scum want to take over against a unified town block unless they express doubt first.
I would want specific proof of him trying to save Moon Cancer before I determined that was the motive or not. I wouldn't need much given the optimal strategies I have laid out.
If there's some reward for doing the gladiate, it makes sense to target MC.
If there's a loyal/disloyal aspect, it also makes sense to target MC.
In post 1091, Servant Berserker wrote:I’ve been thinking on that claim and I think I believe it.
I’m going to ruminate on it some. But moon should claim and then die.
This is your explanation?In post 1150, Servant Avenger wrote:I did answer.In post 1142, Servant Lancer wrote:Answer this too please.In post 1104, Servant Lancer wrote:Avenger, no one else has claimed the same NP as you and saber. why are you not voting for saber? why would you gladiate foreigner and not saber?
I explained why I did this and why I'm not voting Sabre.
This has like, nothing to do with saber's play. Can you explain why the claim is strong enough to change your earlier view about there being 1 scum and 1 town in an NP pairing?In post 1113, Servant Avenger wrote:I confirm it was me.In post 1101, Servant Alter Ego wrote:I'm assuming the gladiate was the doing of Avenger. Would like him to confirm.
VOTE: foreigner
This is flipping scum.
The reason I gladiator here is because I do that read Moon as scum.
Sabre may be lying but given the roles, they too have 1 role that benefits scum and town, and 1 anti scum (I'll find it hard to believe that scum can power up their own NP).
foreigner has been sitting in the back, asking why I'm not at E1 while still not voting me there? Just shading instead of actually reading and actually happy where the votes are going.
There's scum within me and foreigner 100% of the time here.
As I said, I also have an anti scum role which can be proven when I like. I won't be sharing it today though unless it becomes beneficial.
Unlike the players trying to pretend here I'm not only going to follow someone from the title 'leader' even when I think they are wrong.In post 1157, Servant Lancer wrote:I mentioned Berserker because you took an action that explicitly undermined his views as town leader for what seems like a bad reason compared to the opportunity you had to gladiate saber who should be near-confirmed scum to you. I also trust his reads, but the main point here is that this action is inherently anti-town for opposing the town leader and forcing the elim like this.
I am still pretty sure Foreigner is town. I don't really think your alignment impacts my read. My scumread on you is entirely independent of your target.
yepIn post 1160, Servant Alter Ego wrote:At literally any time prior to this avenger could have stepped in and said a word about moon cancer in their defense, and did not, and instead he stepped in with this gladiate
uuhhhh disagreeIn post 1161, Servant Saber wrote:This bullshit is why my NP is one of the most powerful in the game. If Avenger didn't have a gladiate, he'd spam out and demotivate the game. That has to be prevented.In post 1152, Servant Archer wrote:So your "there is 100% scum between the two of us" is basically, you are really really sure of your read?In post 1129, Servant Avenger wrote:On that I'm right here.In post 1127, Servant Alter Ego wrote:100% scum based on...?
I'm genieunly good with this, even more so when people use bullshit reasons to try and force a push.
And I can say that because if I flip scum it means fuck all.
If I flip town, then what I'm saying has merit.
Jesus Christ.
You are so sure of your read that you decided to halt the plans for the entirety of the town.
I agree, even if you are town, this is the most anti-town play you could have made
You don't have to follow every single word Berserker says, but the way to win is to workIn post 1170, Servant Avenger wrote:Unlike the players trying to pretend here I'm not only going to follow someone from the title 'leader' even when I think they are wrong.In post 1157, Servant Lancer wrote:I mentioned Berserker because you took an action that explicitly undermined his views as town leader for what seems like a bad reason compared to the opportunity you had to gladiate saber who should be near-confirmed scum to you. I also trust his reads, but the main point here is that this action is inherently anti-town for opposing the town leader and forcing the elim like this.
I am still pretty sure Foreigner is town. I don't really think your alignment impacts my read. My scumread on you is entirely independent of your target.
And of course you won't have an impacted read on a red flip foreigner...
But even if I'm flipped, foreigner and anyone who is hard defending there should all be checked and limmed.
