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No, I mean the 2-shot tracker that was won yesterday for $200 after mastina publicly announced that she bid $200 on it.In post 1448, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:You mean jk, we had the tracker.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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If you flip town, scum use their hitman power.In post 1445, Gamma Emerald wrote:yes
I'm talking about rb because I'm hoping they can block the scum NK tonight
What's your view on who won the hitman power if not you?"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy-
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Oh that explains it then. I was wondering.In post 1451, Something_Smart wrote:
No, I mean the 2-shot tracker that was won yesterday for $200 after mastina publicly announced that she bid $200 on it.In post 1448, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:You mean jk, we had the tracker.-
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In post 1454, Gamma Emerald wrote:not sure
who would have wanted mastina dead? that's probably the best lead
SS watched her and saw only you visit.-
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In post 1389, Something_Smart wrote:It's a watcher result. Not saying whether anyone else visited her, because there's no reason to out that information-- Gamma shouldn't be able to visit at all if town.-
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I didn't explicitly say that only he visited, but it doesn't matter; from his POV, I have to be lying, and therefore scum. But I also can't have won the hitman (even if I were scum) because I already spent 500.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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I think whomever won the cop is dead because they had to have bid more than 365 for it and scum likely thought Distance was cop. Why else kill him?In post 431, Gypyx wrote:the bids have been won for the following amounts
cop - [REDACTED]
doctor - 250
hitman 426
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Yes you actually can because VFP won the 2 shot ninja.In post 1457, Something_Smart wrote:I didn't explicitly say that only he visited, but it doesn't matter; from his POV, I have to be lying, and therefore scum. But I also can't have won the hitman (even if I were scum) because I already spent 500.-
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If you honestly thought that, that would have been your first reaction and you would already be voting him.In post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him-
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Huh? I don't follow.In post 1460, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Yes you actually can because VFP won the 2 shot ninja.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Why the hedge here? It sounds like you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.
There are no bd/redirectors. You had no reason to visit if town.
You know he isn’t lying. You’re scum.-
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If anyone else had visited Mastina, you’d have seen it because VFP won the 2 shot ninja right?In post 1462, Something_Smart wrote:
Huh? I don't follow.In post 1460, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Yes you actually can because VFP won the 2 shot ninja.-
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You obviously don’t believe 1463 Gamma. If I “KNOW” a player is scum, I don’t hedge. You either know he’s scum or you don’t and 1463 reads like you know he isn’t,In post 1463, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Why the hedge here? It sounds like you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.
There are no bd/redirectors. You had no reason to visit if town.
You know he isn’t lying. You’re scum.-
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Oh I think we're talking about different things, my bad.
Yeah, I would see whoever visited mastina. I was just saying that I don't need to say if anyone else visited, because seeing Gamma visit is enough to know he's scum (and saying would provide more info to scum).It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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Gamma is flailing caught scum. I don’t know how everyone isn’t seeing it.In post 1466, Something_Smart wrote:Oh I think we're talking about different things, my bad.
Yeah, I would see whoever visited mastina. I was just saying that I don't need to say if anyone else visited, because seeing Gamma visit is enough to know he's scum (and saying would provide more info to scum).-
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In post 1454, Gamma Emerald wrote:not sure
who would have wanted mastina dead? that's probably the best leadIn post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him-
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Seriously, jesus fuck people!In post 1467, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
Gamma is flailing caught scum. I don’t know how everyone isn’t seeing it.In post 1466, Something_Smart wrote:Oh I think we're talking about different things, my bad.
Yeah, I would see whoever visited mastina. I was just saying that I don't need to say if anyone else visited, because seeing Gamma visit is enough to know he's scum (and saying would provide more info to scum).-
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Yes, I agree with you. I think we just got some wires crossed there.In post 1467, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Gamma is flailing caught scum. I don’t know how everyone isn’t seeing it.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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In post 1465, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
You obviously don’t believe 1463 Gamma. If I “KNOW” a player is scum, I don’t hedge. You either know he’s scum or you don’t and 1463 reads like you know he isn’t,In post 1463, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Why the hedge here? It sounds like you don’t actually believe what you’re saying.
There are no bd/redirectors. You had no reason to visit if town.
You know he isn’t lying. You’re scum.-
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Even if cop's not dead, as per my early game reasoning they absolutely shouldn't have waited this long to claim their result so I would not believe any cop claim now.
From the alive players, the bids I know of:
Imaginality: won 1-shot RB for 410, won 1-shot neighourizer 90, total 500
Ssbm: won 1-shot hitman for 426
S&M: won 1-shot AD 300, won 200, total 500
Gamma: won GF 499
Something_Smart: won 2-shot watcher 500
marcistar: won 2-shot gravedigger 225
The only players who could have won the 301 hitman are:
ssbm, marci, Gamma
So if Gamma flips town, and we manage to cram votes on Something_Smart tomorrow so we don't insta-lose, the other scum is either ssbm or marci
That said, I do think most likely it's Gamma + someone. And agree Gamma's vote should already be on Something_Smart.
The main doubt I have is why would scum not hide the watcher bid D3 and the hitman bid D4, if they weren't using them to frame Gamma?"holy shit this entire time i thought imaginalitys profile was a purple seahorse" - camelCasedSnivy-
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There's nobody alive who could have won cop if town so yeah the cop is either dead or scum.
The hides are indeed confusing but to me it looks like scum don't really know how to use it effectively, given how they didn't hide on two of the days and hid JK but didn't even win it.
My first instinct is that this points away from ssbm being scum, but it seems like imaginality is also good enough at mechanics, so it could just be them WIFOMing that they're bad at it.It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!-
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again, I don't think I'm winning the 1v1In post 1461, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:
If you honestly thought that, that would have been your first reaction and you would already be voting him.In post 1458, Gamma Emerald wrote:I know S_S is scum but iirc mastina TRed him<Embrace The Void>
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