Micro 1019: Dead Silence GAME OVER!

[Nathann]

VOTE: Dwlee

Should be back to E-1. I get bad feelings from their jump back onto me (while continuously yelling at Menalque) after they've said that they don't like my wagon because it seemed like scum was happy with it. Also, not sure what 450 is trying to prove with regards to Menalque, considering there was no movement from their vote to that point anywhere.

Other than Momrangal, I felt some level of confidence to vote bugspray, because their weak jabs at me really felt off (and I don't love their vote with thana, suspect thana sequence), but they cannot be scum without Dwlee, so I'm fine with that flip. Worst case scenario, confirmation of bugspray's alignment would be useful.

I think Menalque is probably Town, I don't see why he starts building other wagons when he could've easily killed me. I'll try to check in as often as I can before deadline, but no promises.

[Dwlee99]

450 was because my menalque vote and saying scum are happy with game state resulted in 15 hours of silence except for Shiki and I.

[Dwlee99]

Also dude there's 4 or 5 hours left in the day I'm not letting it go no lim and I'd prefer it not be me so yes I'll vote you.

[Dwlee99]

Okay I misremembered other people posted in that time a little but like no game-related stuff happened which is my point. If we wanna make a Menalque wagon happen I'm down but it seems like you want to townread him because he is organizing a wagon that's not you lol

[Dwlee99]

I have like a fifth of the posts this game jeez

[Nathann]

How is that a bad look for Menalque? Rather, what do you expect to happen there if he was Town? No game-related movements also imply scum is happy with that vote if you're Town, no?

And yeah, pretty much. He's improved since coming back, and his play doesn't strike me as scum!motivated.

[Dwlee99]

It's not a bad look for him to push a different wagon from you if you're town, but it certainly doesn't make him town. If you're town and he pushes a different thing and you go through, he can say now get dwlee. If I go through now people will push you through tomorrow for being a counterwagon, so he got a mislim off. Or you're partnered and he's saving your ass but I'm not sure. I have had a hard time reading people because half the game has taken the game name seriously.

[Nathann]

How is that a bad look for Menalque? Rather, what do you expect to happen there if he was Town? No game-related movements also imply scum is happy with that vote if you're Town, no?

Sorry, this was referring to 450.

I've seen scum do the "weakly defending a suspected Townie to gain Towncred after their flip", but to me it definitely didn't look like Menalque was doing that. I felt an actual... conviction in his defense, I guess. And it's not necessarily true that people will automatically go back to pushing me tomorrow, especially if he ends up looking worse from your wagon. I guess that last scenario is possible from your pov, but I know it's not the case, so.

[Dwlee99]

I was saying that clearly scum are fine with us being the top two wagons today because of how much time passed. Nothing about Menalque. Still better to kill you than me sorry in case the game stalled cause you're scum so unless we're doing something else I don't see an alternative vote here.

[Nathann]

It seemed to me like 450 was supposed to be saying Menalque is scum from that...

The only people I'd be interested in besides you are bugspray (who you obviously won't vote) or Momrangal (who I think is playing the way you described scum!her play, but who pretty much everyone Townreads even though nobody can tell me why). Maybe VFP if I squint, but that would be more of a coinflip/vague gutping than an actual Scumread.

[Dwlee99]

No, I was saying I was right about what I said (scum are happy with the wagons). I think mom just flaked which I don't know if that is alignment-indicative. What are your thoughts on the other people besides VFP cause I want time to sort them in the hood if I get the chance.

[Nathann]

I'm about to have to fuck off for real for a bit, so - Momrangal very much seemed like coasting scum and their case on me is still bad, T3 and BurgerParty are maybe Town for how people are kind of circling around them (also kind of reverse-PoE at this point), but I wouldn't be wrong if they're lurking scum, thana/Menalque are my Townreads, VFP is Fine except for their parked vote on me and somewhat weird play around T3, and I've already said what I think about bugspray.

[Dwlee99]

I feel like circling around is typically scum trying to distance but not commit to killing their buddies. I'm fine with a t3 wagon here.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Official Vote Count

Dwlee99

(4): Menalque, T3, bugspray, Nathann

Nathann

(3): Momrangal, VFP, Dwlee99

bugspray

(1): BurgerParty

Not Voting

(1): thana

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-07-10 19:00:00)

[bugspray]

VOTE: nathann

[thana]

the value of which information you disagree about the value of? of voting for people?

of neighbourhood claims,

a claim that's like... very safe for scum you to make is it's unverifiable without bugs dying

uh,

town!dwlee -> town!bugspray
scum!dwlee -> town!bugspray or partner!bugspray
partner!bugspray makes the dwlee e-1 ???????????

so town!bugspray seems... right? and bugspray dying wouldn't verify dwlee's claim either way?

I think you're far more desperate to stay alive

did i
say sunflower? say,
instead, don't ever
mess with me. say
there is nothing
i won't do to live.

[thana]

they don't like my wagon because it seemed like scum was happy with it

it kinda seemed like dwlee was frustrated that they were being pushed in a game where half the playerlist is absent or refusing to play

but they cannot be scum without Dwlee

yeah this

[thana]

would rather go back to dwlee i think but will hammer nathann if necessary

[bugspray]

VOTE: dwlee99

[Dwlee99]

Bad vote. Done eating burgers if you wanna ask me questions before ruthlessly murdering me.

[Dwlee99]

Some quick thoughts if you don't have any questions:
I don't trust VFP's T3 read. He is just straight up coasting through the game doing absolutely nothing.
Menalque is still scum for all the reasons I stated.
If I'm wrong on t3 I'd say look into Nathan/Mom/VFP/Burger patty (wow I'm listing half the game but 3 of them are doing literally nothing) should be next
If I'm wrong on Menalque than I don't even know what is happening this game but in that case just throw out everything I've thought this game because I'm clearly not in the correct headspace to have formed good reads here.

[Dwlee99]

Also as a general frustration thing extremely pissed that I got put into a hood that hardly tried to engage with me. If bugs wasn't literally confirmed town to me I would have thrown a stake through their heart because they did absolutely zero engaging in the hood or in the game. Only things bugs even said was like "I think you're scum together" in the hood when VFP and I were actually trying to talk to each other.

[Dwlee99]

Shiki and Bugspray town don't kill them. Shiki just don't trust an ELO guilty and you'll do golden.

[T3]

Dwlee what are you?

[Dwlee99]

Informed town neighbor. Is there something I'm missing about the question?