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Post Post #675 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:13 am

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In post 660, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 640, House wrote:
In post 623, Infinity 324 wrote:Though tbh I don't think it's fair to say I haven't looked for scum, I've pushed t3, a50, and house
I wouldn't call a flaccid, unexplained vote with no questioning or accusations much of a push.
Do you scumread me?
Not particularly. I just have zero respect for calling what you did to me a "push". :lol:
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Post Post #676 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:15 am

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In post 674, T3 wrote:
In post 670, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 476, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 447, Infinity 324 wrote:I think taly is obvtown this game tbh

Norwee too kinda lol
Yeah we soulread each other. :lol:
Can you talk to me about my Taly read? I want to know if i could be wrong as my suspicion there is not to the same level as the one i have on Mastina right now.
NEVER trust a soul read.
My soul says this point is corect.
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Post Post #677 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:17 am

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In post 676, House wrote:
In post 674, T3 wrote:
In post 670, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 476, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 447, Infinity 324 wrote:I think taly is obvtown this game tbh

Norwee too kinda lol
Yeah we soulread each other. :lol:
Can you talk to me about my Taly read? I want to know if i could be wrong as my suspicion there is not to the same level as the one i have on Mastina right now.
NEVER trust a soul read.
My soul says this point is corect.
My soul doesn't know what corect means.
My soul made a typo.
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Post Post #678 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:20 am

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In post 613, Taly wrote:
In post 608, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 603, cyrus62 wrote:If you want me to see you as town at least work with me a little show me why you find them town. Or maybe go with my idea as for me I have 1 scum role. Rest town.
Here do this to earn my trust.
All right. Mental note to do this next time I'm in the thread. Really tired and am logging off, but I'll work with you on this and your thoughts on A50.
In truth, I don't have elaborate reasons to townread Infinity. I've just found that their interactions with multiple players do not align with S/S, and that cultivates into me thinking Infinity is closer to town.

I don't feel strongly about any points against Infinity so far...the one or two ones that aren't forgetable. I think their play is too inoffensive to have opportunistic intent, and I find that they're more responsive than what I'd say someone more calculated or agenda-driven is. Neither of these premises exclude scum play at large, but I'm comfortable with the Infinity townlean.

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Post Post #679 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:22 am

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In post 675, House wrote:Not particularly. I just have zero respect for calling what you did to me a "push".
I'm not sure what the purpose of your post was then, if not to try and show you're not scared of me. Cyrus said I'm not trying to find scum, my point was that it's pretty clear I am, and you're not really disputing that, so I'm not really sure what you were trying to do.
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Post Post #680 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:28 am

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ALMOST573710573629


You declared me a juror and I'm abusing that openly. :wink: :lol: :twisted:

Read my interaction with Norwe about 2-3 pages ago. I want commentary. For a less vague premise - am I tunneling?
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Post Post #681 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 am

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In post 671, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It’s soo hoooot.
I’m melting...
I sent a question earlier. If me being frustrated at seeing your posts as insincere is an incorrect mindset, then what is?
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Post Post #682 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:30 am

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If you mean grasping at straws? I think so.

If you mean pushing town? Probably not.
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Post Post #683 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:36 am

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I am really struggling to get my head in this game -.-;

I am going to try and lightning rod again. I will declare all I draw, actions and results.

Think of me what you will, this fucks up scums rotational capability until they have to mislim me.
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Post Post #684 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:39 am

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In post 672, T3 wrote:
In post 668, Dwlee99 wrote:You're literally baiting me into using meta and I won't stand for this.
Metadecentmostofthetimeunlessplayeryouaremetaingusuallygetscaughtbymeta.
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Post Post #685 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:40 am

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I still am strongly against claiming packs. It gives scum a lot of help since they can choose which pack they want to eliminate from the game by forcing that pack to be passed to the NK target. If they want they can also pass it to themselves to take a strong role away from town.

If anything would help you get more into the game let me know
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Post Post #686 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:56 am

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In post 685, Infinity 324 wrote:I still am strongly against claiming packs. It gives scum a lot of help since they can choose which pack they want to eliminate from the game by forcing that pack to be passed to the NK target. If they want they can also pass it to themselves to take a strong role away from town.

If anything would help you get more into the game let me know
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Post Post #687 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:58 am

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Does the line "I am struggling to get into the game" usually come from town?
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Post Post #688 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:02 am

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it's NAI.

I am not claiming packs, I will be claiming any town neg-evs I draw, and all actions I take.
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Post Post #689 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:09 am

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Vote Count 1.6
[4] NorwegianboyEE: mastina, Flea The Magician, Taly, NDMath
[2] Almost50: Dwlee99, Almost50
[1] T3: House
[1] Taly: cyrus62
[1] mastina: NorwegianboyEE
[1] Flea The Magician: T3
[1] House: Infinity 324
[0] Infinity 324:
[0] Dwlee99:
[0] Bingle:
[0] cyrus62:
[0] Dunnstral:
[0] NDMath:

Not voting: Dunnstral, Bingle

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Post Post #690 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:35 am

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Taly do you think that Norwee's frustration re: your push is genuine?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #691 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:43 am

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In post 688, Flea The Magician wrote:I am not claiming packs, I will be claiming any town neg-evs I draw, and all actions I take.
The only problem I see with this is that if you have a repeatable action then scum can know to kill you. When I played this setup as scum, I did feel like it would've been harder if town massclaimed their actions, but there were no repeatable actions in that setup.
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Post Post #692 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:55 am

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In post 691, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 688, Flea The Magician wrote:I am not claiming packs, I will be claiming any town neg-evs I draw, and all actions I take.
The only problem I see with this is that if you have a repeatable action then scum can know to kill you. When I played this setup as scum, I did feel like it would've been harder if town massclaimed their actions, but there were no repeatable actions in that setup.
You saw the BS around what happened last time, you also saw the effectiveness I had at being the lightning rod.

Scum now has to account for me in their rotation attempts. know I'm out to actively screw with their potential, just like last time.

Role don't evolve here either, so I can't be caught out by a shitty "Oh I didn't have that role!" lim which frankly almost gave the game up.
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Post Post #693 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:57 am

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The other thing is I know scum won't take me out. Because 1) it's obvious. 2) I'm a mislim anyway, and one they can dispose of easily.
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Post Post #694 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:58 am

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God that was awful lol

Tbh I'd be ok with you taking scum roles and not claiming them, but meh
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Post Post #695 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:07 am

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Well either way, my play in this game means I cannot be in elo.

I'll be claiming actions at minimum,.
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Post Post #696 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 690, Dwlee99 wrote:Taly do you think that Norwee's frustration re: your push is genuine?
Mostly. I believe the frustration exists, but I haven't seen anything that signals it could be town!frustration instead of scum.
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Post Post #697 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:11 am

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Eh i should have tried to keep my cool more, i've tried to change my style recently where i don't act all flustered about being wagoned but i went back to my old roots again.
I'll evolve to an higher level of consciousness from this point on. In the grand scheme of things, these fights do not help me with solving. Better to settle this petty squabble and look at the game differently.
Now i don't think,
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Post Post #698 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:11 am

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Ops i posted that before i could edit it.
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Post Post #699 (ISO) » Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:13 am

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Anyway, point is. I'm going to look at Taly more closely and make my own conclusion. But seriously, where is Mastina?
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