Open 820: The Siege of Aurelia — Game Over!

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Hey!

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Do we want to try to force the scum into one area or play by putting obvtowns in certain areas?

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What if we all just talk for ~250 posts and thenncome up with readlists and make groups based on that?

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Scumreads at the gate, townreads at the keep, everyone else at the wall?

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Hi seal food... I mean Penguin!

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Right now I would put T3 at the Keep as a preemptive take

I'm not sure whether that's supposed to be a townread or a scumread.

[T3]

[/left handed compliment]

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If I'm getting scumread for reasons other than "opportunistic vote hopping" or "lurking" thrn I'm probably scum.

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Sup nerds VOTE: Gate
Pile onto gate now

I orginally thought this was scummy, but then I thought it was towny, now I realize this is NAI

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unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.

I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.

Congrats. You are scum who has pulled reads out of your ass.

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unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.

I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.

Yeah I'm willing to divulge a bit. I'm sure scum is already aware of it, but there's a mechanic that allows them to switch people. This works in town's favor as well however given

that two scum cannot be in the same place

. Therefore, my intent in the last game was to not make any sudden movements. I didn't want to confirm any information basically. The town in that game tried to use I believe Keep(?) to box in scumreads or something to that effect. We ended up exactly 1-1-1 in terms of wagon makeup where Ydrasse followed my lead, and then catboi just happened to find himself elsewhere too. I think it's a dangerous game (for scum) if they just let townies start plotting because then the onus is put onto them, and it becomes a matter of reacting less to what town does and more about complying and hoping that their plans are misguided.

*says that in main thread*

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It's hard to interpret really. I was scum there so I can tell you my motivations for doing so previously-- which was basically mitigating control. I jumped early because I wanted to limit town's options to synchronize, and because I felt the ~~no fear~~ approach would be townie. Is Kyouko doing the exact same thing? I don't know because he doesn't have the same experience as I do now.

That's funny you thought that as scum before, because I didnt want to give scum time to plan anything.

T3 you're a lurksack so if you dont get into Gate I'll treat it as a scumclaim. Scum does not want you at Gate as they either have to swap you (takes away their agency), IC you (gives you a clear when lurkers are usually bait), or try to mislim you (you have the defense that you're bait)

So if you're town get in. If any others hammer gate before T3 that's also a scumclaim

I don't lurk.

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kyo's plan is towny. unwnd is towny for the whole thing about plotting. implosion is probably scum for the faking reads and then saying giving scum info is good.

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Someone please direct this valiant avian knight.

Keep.

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Wait a minute, penguins can't fly.

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"Avian"

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Not all birds fly.

Amen.

I dislike both kyouko's explanation and T3's reaction to it, but will take the level 0 read that this makes them unlikely to be teamed. Although looking at 52 again, it might be a town post despite none of the conclusions being good. Or because of that.

Yeah his takes are so undercooked that I have to believe they're genuine

I'm super obvscum when scum and super obvscum but I get correctly meta read when town.

[T3]

What if me, unwnd, and Aurelia's next top townread go to the keep?

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So T3 is scum, that wasn't too hard

I'm not limbait some of the time.

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ssbm is basically saying that I should go because I'm limbait. The problem is, if you know my meta and othr stuff you can see that this game is way different to my scumgames.

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Dunn putting 2 posts in by page 4 is pretty good. :roll

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Any objections to Peng/skiter/me in the keep that are not ssbm?

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I mean - I think implosion is scum as well.

I actually think t3 is town and am liking unwnd so far
I'm getting some bad vibes from implosion but i'm not good at reading him so i'm not sure how much stock to put into that

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I do really, really bad in F3 as town. Take Nebies 2063 and 2069.

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Like I think this obviously isn't my scumgame, from an outsider's POV. I've tried tweaking my townplay so I hyperpost at a similar ratio but the way I respond to scumreads is way different .

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Where did you come up with that trio from

@t3

I mean - I think implosion is scum as well.

I actually think t3 is town and am liking unwnd so far
I'm getting some bad vibes from implosion but i'm not good at reading him so i'm not sure how much stock to put into that

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Prety much. There was also that you took your meta into account when reading implosion which is +town.

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> Yes me providing valid reasonsto scumread implosion is more theater than all the people who randomly scumread implosion after me.

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I just finished a game a traitor with ssbm groupscum. I'll meta her soon.

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Oh and that's quoted because Dunn seems talkative this game

Agreed.

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I don't have that many solid reads right now.

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Like Kyo's plan with me at the gate is anti-town but not necessarily scum.

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Like Kyo's plan with me at the gate is anti-town but not necessarily scum.

Mmm, elaborate from both angles:
Scum!T3 at Gate
Town!T3 at Gate

How is you coming to the gate anti-town, in both cases

Because contrary to popular opinion, I am not limbait this game.

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Also you say popular opinion like there are a lot of people that share my viewpoint. As far as I can tell I'm alone in this. Could it be the pressure is getting to you already?

I'm basically always seen as limbait. Take almost any completed towngame of mine.

[T3]

Maybe you should work on that.

I'm trying to basically triple my average postcount.

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I can't get accused of lurking.

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VOTE: Keep
Let's get the ball rolling.

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I agree with catboi's point about kyo. I'm realy not sure about her. Her reasons for scumreading me are bad but I agree with hr implosion read [not the reasoning behind it] and Dunn.

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Were this a regular game, I could maybe see it as an attempt to pressure him but in this setup that doesn't really work, and the approach here makes more sense as either trying to make T3 an elimmable suspect on day 2 or pit him against implosion based on his existing stated suspicions - I'm not sure why as town you'd actively try to get 2 scumreads into a location with you but it makes great sense as scum if you believe one will surefire vote the other. I'm struggling to see much of any of it as town motivated play.

Say for arguments sake I am scum, and I want town!T3 and town!Implosion in there with me. I'm going to have to IC one of them, and if i forced them both into the keep with me, is the IC really going to vote the other one over me? Keep in mind I sr both of them, so the ICed one would have reason to be thinking very critically about my motivation for bringing them both into Gate.

I dont think you've really thought this through from both perspectives. You should probably join T3.

Yeah but you can swap.

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Theoretically you could swap one of me or implosion with someone else. If implosion is scum I don't think you're scum.

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Better question: Why not someone else? Your assumption rests entirely that I'm limbait and townread you?

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My townish pile is similar to skitter's actually, but dropping the "maybe" on unwnd and swapping catboi for Penguin.

I don't know how to read dunnstral at all though.

If he's active then he's town.

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I also think it's a good idea to grab people in pairs for Gate and Keep. If we do that, then the group consensus on those pairs should be that they are both town. And pairs should have to TR each other too. If we can pair people off like this it makes it harder for scum to sneak into a pair. Then we decide where the pair should go, Gate or Keep, and then decide on another pair. And you can always put your scumreads together in a pair and put them with me or with T3 if you think either of us are scum

All I see is protown benefits.

Support!

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Penguin is probably town for deriving the same conclusion from Kyo's posts that I did.

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This game he's relatively more active than I've seen him as either alignment, actually.

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My reads are basically like:
Peng
Kyo
skitter
catboi unwnd
SS Dunn
implosion

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Actually maybe skitter > kyo.

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Kyo could be scum trying to control the game but her plan feels protown.

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I'm not really sure how to read skitter but I think town!skitter usually is less sure of her reads.

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Penguin is fluffing a lot but I think that's NAI for him.

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I'm not really sure how to read skitter but I think town!skitter usually is less sure of her reads.

If skitter is scum then she's actively pocketing me so:

Draft: penguinpower

[T3]

Wait, can you changw your vote?

[T3]

She's at gate.

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I think I'm pretty obious town so I might get swapped. If I do then we should vote Peng for Keep and we should win Keep.

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I meant that I'm not sure how to meta skitter, my bad. I think she's town for her paranoia on implosion.

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Not realy paranoia - more like reversa paranoia.

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I would rather have my top townread at the keep for a basically guaranteed win there.

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I get swapped away -> vote Peng and win.
I don't get swapped away -> vote me and win.

Assuming you and Peng are both town then if scum swap Peng then scum will confirm you as town and it's 50/50, if scum swap you then they confirm Peng and it's still 50/50.

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It's better to have the top townreads in the keep because you only need 2 obvtown to guarantee a win and not 3 like in Wall or Gate.

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I am a male, a geriatric one

That was way different to my mental image of you.

pedit: True. I know I'm town and I think my play this game is pretty different to my scum meta.

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This game he's relatively more active than I've seen him as either alignment, actually.

Now this is definitely not true

...
No.

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I don't know if Catboi does the same strategy twice. It could be a WIFOM play int that sense but for now

That felt oddly spiteful?

This post's tone felt weird.

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I agree with that the play seemed to me like a WIFOM play.

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Oh, I didn't know scum can't vote. So then Gate is autowin because the non conftowns cans crossvote and whoever shows up on the vc is confirmed town?

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I forgot that scum cant vote
If ur pledging to vote i suppose it makes u less scummy but even so i dont think that was a good thing to do

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Oh wait I'm being dumb.

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Based on context I think what skitt meant was that scum in keep can't vote or they lose.

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What if scumboi was desperate so he decided to do the same gambit as last time? I feel like that would make sense if everyone's early solves are correct.

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I think skitter's reaction to catboi last page is townish. I don't think catboi promising to wield the hammer at keep is townish, obviously if catboi follows through then they're town but it's a quite easy thing to say and then not follow through on for any of x reasons (being swapped out or a changed gamestate, etc).

or well i'm not discounting skitter certainly but i do like her last page quite a bit.

That is easily the scummiest set of posts in the game, haha.

This post comes across as very forced.

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unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.

I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.

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I dont know what he did last time but i also dont know why me suggesging catboi/unwnd should not go to the keep should prompt.that responde

From what I gathered he went into the keep saying he would want to be the hammer vote and was townread for that. I might be wrong though.

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unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.

I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.

skitter says unwnd/catboi interactions feel weird. Immediately after that, catboi drops a scumread on implosion. implosion's 37 is townreading catboi and unwnd for bad reasons.
Partner interactions day 1 are bad but if I had to choose one of them to flip first probably catboi, maybe implosion.

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What if scumboi was desperate so he decided to do the same gambit as last time? I feel like that would make sense if everyone's early solves are correct.

You should really probably actually read the last game if you're going to hypothesize about it, because what I did is antithetical to what our team did in that game. In the first game, Briar brute-forced herself as a townread and jumped to the keep, we swapped out the other universal townread in absinthe and swapped in Infinity, who the town had been confirmation-biasing as scum. We ensured scum was the most townread player at the keep for an easy 1-0 lead. Me doing that here as scum...would almost unquestionably put the team down 0-1 instead, as I'm not particularly townread. In terms of motive and optics, it's nothing like what scum did the last game (if anything, it's closer to Anastasia)

I don't really expect you to have good reads or any sort of sensible logic, but luckily for my purposes that's completely irrelevant.

Then I'm just bad.

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I think skitter's reaction to catboi last page is townish. I don't think catboi promising to wield the hammer at keep is townish, obviously if catboi follows through then they're town but it's a quite easy thing to say and then not follow through on for any of x reasons (being swapped out or a changed gamestate, etc).

or well i'm not discounting skitter certainly but i do like her last page quite a bit.

That is easily the scummiest set of posts in the game, haha.

Also I was talking about this.

[T3]

VOTE: Keep

WHY.
Why .-.
So I don't think Dunn is scum with catboi because then one of Dunn/catboi would have to swap.

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Okay, but I'm not getting voted, so, again, the idea that this is a scum gambit falls totally flat. I'm going to vote for who I think is town, hopefully I will be right, I will flip town and leave a legacy read that you should be voted no matter what.

My motivation here as town is pretty simple: I get to be the deciding vote at the keep, I get to control my own destiny, and I don't even have to convince anyone to crossvote for me, which is the most annoying part of being in 3p. If I sense that there's an active campaign to discredit me, why would I not want to be at the place where me being scumread is far less important than my ability to correctly identify who is town?

It doesn't particularly

matter

to me that I get townread here but you're so obviously trying to force-fit the read at this point, which is why I think you're scum.

This makes sense tbh

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Okay, but I'm not getting voted, so, again, the idea that this is a scum gambit falls totally flat. I'm going to vote for who I think is town, hopefully I will be right, I will flip town and leave a legacy read that you should be voted no matter what.

My motivation here as town is pretty simple: I get to be the deciding vote at the keep, I get to control my own destiny, and I don't even have to convince anyone to crossvote for me, which is the most annoying part of being in 3p. If I sense that there's an active campaign to discredit me, why would I not want to be at the place where me being scumread is far less important than my ability to correctly identify who is town?

It doesn't particularly

matter

to me that I get townread here but you're so obviously trying to force-fit the read at this point, which is why I think you're scum.

oh damn keep is hammered... but now that it's hammered with 2 low activity players, if they're both town (T3 and Dunnstral), it will be easy for scum to swap scum!catboi out for a deepwolf if they can get 1-1-1, and get that deepwolf to be TRed. I think now what we want is the consensus scumreads in Wall so that if we get 2/3 there, scum!catboi is forced to stay in keep, and scum has to swap a Wall-Scum for a Gate-Town.

Off the top of my head, Peng and Skitter in Gate, Implosion, unwnd, and S_S in Wall. Does that sound like a good formation? @Implosion, if you're town, are you comfortable with me-Peng-skitter?

T3 has the most posts in the game. What the

fuck

are you talking about?

I think she has the perception that I hard lurk. I used to.

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SS is basically just PoE. I would probably try to force him into whatever room because on the off chance he's scum it should be apparently obvious when he returns. And I also think that we would take SS more into account when deciding on mech stuff than other players and if he's scum he could possibly force us into a subuptimal position.p

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SS is basically just PoE. I would probably try to force him into whatever room because on the off chance he's scum it should be apparently obvious when he returns. And I also think that we would take SS more into account when deciding on mech stuff than other players and if he's scum he could possibly force us into a subuptimal position.p

S_S is PoE scum for you? what's your PoE of scum rn?

@Catboi - Why did you say you can't see the motivation for scum!Dunn to hammer Keep?

Not really PoE scum, he just hasn't done anything towny.

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SS hasn't done anything -> I don't have a good read on him.

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My reads are:
kyo
Peng/skitter
SS
unwnd
implosion
Dunn/catboi

There are scumreads being thrown at skitter and I'm not sure why.

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Well if the people i'm scumreading are in fact scum it makes a lot of sense why

That too.

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Pwng and SS go to the gate?

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Pwng and SS go to the gate?

I believe the mod missed that unwnd already went to gate

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I want implosion in there to make the possibility of scum have 2 in a room.

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Depending on the swap but if catboi and Dunn are 1 town and 1 scum Keep should always be flipped first.

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Not sure what to make of SS. His posts haven't pinged me either way.

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I have no read on PenguinPower lol

Somewhat town for me just because of agreing with my thoughts in real time.

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Not sure what to make of SS. His posts haven't pinged me either way.

Shocking.

Anything in particular you want to hear my thoughts on?

implosion.

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I feel like I need a chart with everyone's avatars and then a line of different colors to whoever scumreads the other person

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We'll see what happens with the swap.

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Because I think catboi's alignment really depends on that.

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The less we say about how we will interpret a particular swap, the better, methinks.

Agreed.
SS, do you want to hammer the gate?

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Not really? I think the last game showed that the gate is not my strong suit. Especially with the low amount of content I have right now.

True.

I have a bunch of theories based on whatever swap... I'll say once said swap happens.

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See catboi's frustratiion pings me as genuine but I'm not sure why.

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I do see why S_S at gate is bad.

I don't think I should go to gate at this point, I think ssbm is the only one somewhat advocating it and I also am in principle concerned about ssbm being confirmed and mishammering me. Though I guess actually at this point she should really try to be as ambiguous about her reads as possible to avoid giving scum any info about a gate related swap. That's true of unwnd as well. Anyone at the gate needs to keep their reads close to their chest before the swap. Maybe Penguin would be good at the gate by that logic since he's been I think leaving the most to the imagination with regards to what his actual reads are.

Yeah but we think it's possible you're scum with unwnd. You're scumy, so I'm not sure if it should be your choice where you go.

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I'll metaread unwnd. Other than meta unwnd is scummy but I'll see.

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Scumwnd in 2064 made longer (~5 line) posts and then hyperposted a lot of short posts.

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He did the same thing in GoTF 1.

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Yep lol unwnd is scum.

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I think unwnd is scum so implosion should go to the gate.

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I think unwnd is scum so implosion should go to the gate.

Same but also you could just be echoing me to reinforce my coming-around TR on you

I'm scumreading implosion. Also, look at the thought process behind it.

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This is the exact kind of wall scumwnd makes.

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I want implosion at gate. Just hammer please I guess?

unwnd seems to be a consensus scumread and implosion is a scumread.

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skitter is town I think for agreeing with me and also just vibes tbh

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Ifcatboi doesn't get swapped then we force catboi to vote me first, if he hesitates then we just get whoever else it is to vote me. Unless I get swapped. In that case idk

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implo-unwnd makes that swap plausible but still very ??? as to why they'd put skitter in the gate, rather than someone more likely to lose a 1v1. I really hated that move from implo.

My thoughts exactly. I have a townread on skitter so maybe to confuse us?

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Either skitter/{SS/Peng} or implosion/unwnd I think? This swap makes no sense unless there isn't a 2-0 or 0-2 in wall or gate.

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I think Keep should flip first because I think catboi's alignment is high info.

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What I don't get is why I wasn't swapped out of Keep. Because at this point I'm likely being voted in -> scum lose Keep so obviously scum are going to swap me out. If the scum are 1-1-1 then they effectively have to swap me out.

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That makes me think scum were forced to do a Gate/Wall swap.

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I can see both of you as having scum motivation rn

Same tbh

unwnd scumreads SS, implosion scumreads skitter, skitter scumreads implosion, unwnd and implosion are possibly scum together.

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Specifically interactions with skitter. If you're scum and we then vote me and win the keep you!scum strongly implies skitter town.

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So then the gate votes implosion and we win.

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I haven't seen a scum get angry and scumread their scumpartner in the main thread.
So
catboi!scum = skitter!town = implosion!scum = win.
Honestly idk if you're town.

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Whatever. I think you're playing tactically and don't actually want to go to the gate, have never wanted to go to the gate, and were hoping someone else would take the gate before you so you would have an excuse. As that hasn't happened, you're entering into this incredibly performative exchange where you balk at the idea because this somehow our scum plot (of course, trying to articulate what that could actually be wouldn't be possible, because nothing makes sense, you fall back on vague notions of it being "suspicious")

NEVER MIND the fact that unwnd was open about wanting to go to the gate with you from the moment he jumped there, I've been largely okay with it for most of this time, SUDDENLY NOW it's a big deal???, Yeah, not buying it! ✾(〜 ☌ω☌)〜✾

Specifically this. I don't think scum can fake a genuine emotional response to a post their scumpartner makes.

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Specifically interactions with skitter. If you're scum and we then vote me and win the keep you!scum strongly implies skitter town.

1. You think I couldn't distance?

2. I can see me being scum as a high info flip, that's not hard. But you have only considered the premise where I am scum. What about the world where I'm town? I know for a fact that's the one we're living in, and I don't actually see what my flip tells you about anyone's alignment.

Yeah, that's fair.

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See I feel like I'm hard confbiasing on unwnd.

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Dunn has done nothing all game. I would be insane to vote him. communism scummily tried to force his way into keep. I would be insane to vote him.

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WHY DOES EVERYTHING AUTOCORRECT TO COMMUNISM

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My gut instinct is that unwnd's reactions to skitter do not feel aligned, as they haven't all game.

I don’t agree atm. Pls explain when you can.

Postcount.

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Dunn has done nothing all game. I would be insane to vote him. communism scummily tried to force his way into keep. I would be insane to vote him.

Not technically true given he voted to go to the keep, but maybe we can hush on the keep for now.

Unwnd or s_s?

By play unwnd. By mech SS?

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Post count is a horrible basis and you aren’t catboi so kindly close it.

I'm talking about Dunn doing nothing.

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By play unwnd. By mech SS?

Pick one.

unwnd because scum implosion could have done that to confused us I guess?

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Hard to explain but unwnd reaction feels genuinely emotional to me.

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Pseudo-vote: SS

All logic is telling me unwnd is probably scum but like... I guess when you kind of 'know' someone is town.

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This reminds me of the time I mislimmed bloodhail in that micro. Genuine emotional response but scummy af

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Scum team is T3, Something_Smart, and then one of skitter/implosion.

Luckily, it doesn't matter how hard scum shades me. I believe T3 is clearly scum in my group from their posts today, which is what I was waiting on.

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Yeah I really do weird stuff as scum lol

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I guess the problem with both implosion/skitter townreading me is that one is correct on me town but the other one is pocketing me.

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I guess the problem with both implosion/skitter townreading me is that one is correct on me town but the other one is pocketing me.

But what's the use in pocketing you?

Like the reads come from a bad faith perspective. Not really pocketing.

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I think it's Skitter/T3/S_S

Your read on me appears to be just because I scumread you. I get why you think skitter could be scum with me.

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implosion flipped on his read of me after Dunn and catboi both expressed a scumread of me but skitter held strong in her read which makes me think town?

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Given the fact that I'm 1-9 (I think?) for all my scumgames and my only win was because I hardbussed my entire scumteam day 1 and was limmed for it if I were scum I would never want to go to keep.

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Where would you have gone, then? It's not like the other locations are particularly more enticing.

I think scum!me would have gone to wall?

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Given the fact that I'm 1-9 (I think?) for all my scumgames and my only win was because I hardbussed my entire scumteam day 1 and was limmed for it if I were scum I would never want to go to keep.

Help me understand this…

Scum me is bad at getting townread -> Keep relies on being townread -> scum me would probably always lose keep.

pedit: Higher chance of winning.

[T3]

Hard to tell because I'm not scum. I think it would depend on who my partners are.

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Fair.

In terms of my general meta, scum!me busses early on, townreads town, and goes for weird and flashy plays.

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skitter knows my meta and was town.

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T3 would you vote catboi?

Leaning towards catboi.

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unwnd is quite town for page 2. catboi to a lesser extent.

I think there's some amount of advantage we could eke out by controlling where people go but I think we also can get a fair amount of useful info just from where people decide to go on their own. unwnd, since you were specifically worried as scum about town's options to synchronize, I'm curious what exactly you didn't want town to have the option to do.

Congrats. You are scum who has pulled reads out of your ass.

I'm not, but good try!

Yeah I'm willing to divulge a bit. I'm sure scum is already aware of it, but there's a mechanic that allows them to switch people. This works in town's favor as well however given that two scum cannot be in the same place. Therefore, my intent in the last game was to not make any sudden movements. I didn't want to confirm any information basically. The town in that game tried to use I believe Keep(?) to box in scumreads or something to that effect. We ended up exactly 1-1-1 in terms of wagon makeup where Ydrasse followed my lead, and then catboi just happened to find himself elsewhere too. I think it's a dangerous game (for scum) if they just let townies start plotting because then the onus is put onto them, and it becomes a matter of reacting less to what town does and more about complying and hoping that their plans are misguided.

This is roughly what I figured; notably a single person doing an early jump has no impact on this plan because it doesn't matter

that

much which of the three locations we use for which purpose if we do want to go this route.

Sup nerds VOTE: Gate
Pile onto gate now

I orginally thought this was scummy, but then I thought it was towny, now I realize this is NAI

This post is pretty "hello world, I have an internal thought process! Guess I can't be scum!"

hmm hot take T3-implosion is theatre

implosion scumread me, the townread me, then when the consensus was that I was a scumlean implosion also did an unexplained flip on me.

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Look. skitter knows my meta pretty well, I've something like 5 games with her. Earlier you all said that skitter is scum with an agenda townreading me. Now skitter is flipped town.

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Gg.