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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:15 pm

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You're speaking to absinthe
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:16 pm

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Sure seems like it.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:20 pm

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In post 2351, Ythan wrote:Sure seems like it.
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:21 pm

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This feels like a good time to note that I love you all YOU FOOLS
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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:25 pm

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In post 2335, Ythan wrote:More to the point you're putting words in my mouth about the specific alignments of the people I'm speaking about and that is what I want to shoot down.
Can you please be more clear on what words I am putting into your mouth, because I am unclear on what excatly you are saying I got wrong?

Do you mean when I said that the people you were calling scumfucks were specifically mafia? Because, that might have been me connecting a few dots from your posts

You said that they were trying to "squirm away from Dann's" elim, and that he is a "claimed scum role cop." Which, while you did not say Mafia specifically here, the same post where T3 claims rolecop also indicates he is specifically Mafia.

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For clarification, do you think that that slip was genuine or not?
It seems strange to try and walk the link in thinking that he really is a role cop, but not also think he is specifically Mafia?
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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:29 pm

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In post 2354, Lukewarm wrote:You said that they were trying to "squirm away from Dann's" elim, and that he is a "claimed scum role cop." Which, while you did not say Mafia specifically here, the same post where T3 claims rolecop also indicates he is specifically Mafia.
Every bit of this paragraph is exactly what has happened and is happening in the thread, so, ?

We'll sort out who is doing what why tomorrow as I've said.
In post 2354, Lukewarm wrote:For clarification, do you think that that slip was genuine or not?
Obviously yes thus probably every single post I've made today.
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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:31 pm

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You're all beautiful people AND YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:36 pm

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In post 2355, Ythan wrote:
In post 2354, Lukewarm wrote:You said that they were trying to "squirm away from Dann's" elim, and that he is a "claimed scum role cop." Which, while you did not say Mafia specifically here, the same post where T3 claims rolecop also indicates he is specifically Mafia.
Every bit of this paragraph is exactly what has happened and is happening in the thread, so, ?

We'll sort out who is doing what why tomorrow as I've said.
In post 2354, Lukewarm wrote:For clarification, do you think that that slip was genuine or not?
Obviously yes thus probably every single post I've made today.
Then I guess I am not understanding the problem.

You believe the slip, and therefore believe that Dann is specifically a Mafia Rolecop

You believe that there are "scumfucks" actively trying to avoid Dann being eliminated.

But I was wrong when I phrased it as you believing it was the Mafia trying to save Dann?

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Were you using "scumfucks" as an Alignment Neutral term?

Is that were the miscommunication came in?
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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:40 pm

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Because I did read these two posts specifically to be indications that you meant it was a "scum team" initiative, not just a dumb play.
In post 2182, Ythan wrote:Scumfucks trying to squirm away from the inevitability of Dann's imminent demise.
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In post 2192, Echolocation wrote:If someone is analyzing emoji % usage as a metric for alignment I"m just gonna assume they're town.
Even when they're doing it to scrape together an alternative to claimed scum?
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:42 pm

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In post 2357, Lukewarm wrote:Were you using "scumfucks" as an Alignment Neutral term?

Is that were the miscommunication came in?
I was, and if that clears something up for you then it may be.

I'm not saying whatever dots you may have connected are not logical dot connections I just haven't weighed in on those connections myself because that's idk just not what I've been doing.
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:43 pm

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Oh when I said yes just now to alignment neutral I meant mafia vs wolf neutral. Yes it's scummy. ScumMY idk if scum obviously.
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:49 pm

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I typed up a response saying that 2359 did clear it up, but that was shattered with 2360 :sob:

Given those posts, your stance still does not make sense to me, but at this point I feel like we are talking in circles, and I am going to drop this now.

Goodnight :)
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:49 pm

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Night.
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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:51 pm

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I’m about to some fck b words
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:52 pm

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I really hope this isnt some elaborate leadin to a Morph is Malefactor big brain because your hopes are about to be super dashed if so.
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:57 pm

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In post 2364, morph the cat wrote:I really hope this isnt some elaborate leadin to a Morph is Malefactor big brain because your hopes are about to be super dashed if so.
I've already said this but since you're still at it I'll reiterate that I don't give a fuck I was calling y'all scumfucks for scumfuck play and that's literally it. I'm probably not going to rephrase that again tonight before anyone asks AGAIN.

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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:00 pm

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Man my thoughts just come out mean but you really are all a delight.
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:01 pm

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In post 2364, morph the cat wrote:I really hope this isnt some elaborate leadin to a Morph is Malefactor big brain because your hopes are about to be super dashed if so.
Can't we actually address this idea right now?

In post 2174, morph the cat wrote:So... you're in a masonry (guaranteed by the mod not to contain mafia or malefactor)

@Manatee, you confirmed you and morph were in a masonry, can you confirm that the masonry cannot contain the malefactor?
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:09 pm

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Morph is way too active with too many hard stances to ever be the malefactor, anyways. Way too likely they'd get killed at night playing like that so they wouldn't do it.
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:16 pm

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I am in this picture and I don't like it.
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:13 pm

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You guy we fioinn hooting get
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:18 pm

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Hell yeah.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:23 pm

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Bell rang it fucrkrednup hellwo
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:31 pm

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ythan, listen up. if you are going to read a single one of my posts with even the slightest amount of credibility one might give to someone who could be town, let it be this one.

first of all, I'm starting to disbelieve your junk crusade. You are stuck in one place and while at first it created a towny impression it feels like you are using a moment of the game that you should be thinking critically about to... not play the game. the problem is, I think you're a smart player alright. You've literally been in this situation before. I am remembering ythan vs. A50 circa Team Mafia 2021 where you were SO sure you had caught scum but it was really just a townie doing absolutely unbelievable things. You had conviction like you do now, but you cooled off and realized, hey, the simplest answer really is that A50 is just that crazy

I don't see any attempts at that introspection here. There aren't even attempts to engage with the rest of the game. your iso crawls are loosely tangential to the game and your commentary is very witty I will admit. But every conclusion you draw about the game is pre-supposed by this weird assumption about T3/my slot that if scum is a way to avoid really interacting with the game and if town is actively hindering your ability to interact with the game. You are stuck playing a game on Page 4 of a nearly 100 Page game. What is up with that

I don't care that you are scum reading me. like unwnd observed, I
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the fact that you're one of the few on my wagon actively pushing me. your conviction is good, but where the fuck is your critical thinking. like its getting unbelievable to a point where I'm not sure if its just a veneer you're using to look towny and whine at everyone for going after actual scum
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The miller claim is an inside joke but I can always say it's serious later.
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at the post you keep referring to as obvious scum. you can keep in mind the stuff countless other slots have already tried to explain to you or not. Look at the first sentence. Do you really think as mafia, 'we should kill the enemy team' is a controversial, worthwhile, strategy statement. Do you really think there was a conversation where it was needed for T3 to input his opinion of "kill the people with the opposite win condition as us." Look at the third sentence combined with later T3/Resistance posts. Does T3's miller claim with that line make logical sense for someone to seriously post in their mafia PT. Does it make sense for him to make a claim that someone else will call out as a joke and then claim to his buddies that he can make it serious later?

Look at the first word "anyway," does it make sense that T3 seems to be continuing from another post he just made? and slipped??? that somehow in the space of posting two probably sequential posts that he switched tabs or windows or whatever, didn't notice the color change, and then hit enter?

does any of it really feel like an honest to god REAL post to you? really? I get thinking T3 is scum for a host of reasons - there is some sense to it

I feel like you aren't truly thinking about this though and I'm not entirely sure why. Is this just the way to avoid having to use your brain too much in D1 of a large theme? because I feel like even ythan without a brain should be coming after me for different reasons here, or at the very least backing down a little and reconsidering those reasons after several slots *including slots that want me dead* tell you that you're off base

so what's actually up here, please tell me what's going through your head?
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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:33 pm

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morph's case on manatee is actually flawed but manatee's reaction is very "wolf caught for the wrong reasons"

the vote on morph is not believable

morph is exactly the type of player to believe his own case there, regardless of the fact that its predicated on ignoring the fact that "wolf" is a very common way to refer to scum

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