Not Quite Normal Multiball (Game Over)

[Celestial Powerhouse]

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

[Taco Hemingway]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

[Taco Hemingway]

Howling? I thought you believed I'm last mafia?

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

My reasoning is consistent, taco poop.

As is Poseidons reasoning.

You are reading as one player, when we're seperate heads.

-Hades.

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

Have you heard a 3 headed dog howl? yeesh...

[Taco Hemingway]

oh yeah btw imma soft that i know why setup design wise morph was a roleblocker - i'll say that much more about my role.

[Taco Hemingway]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

My reasoning is consistent, taco poop.

As is Poseidons reasoning.

You are reading as one player, when we're seperate heads.

-Hades.

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

Have you heard a 3 headed dog howl? yeesh...

I read your slot as a unit. You share the same role PM.

I don't care about individual reads. I care about how you as a unit are reading the game and such. You keep bringing up that you are a hydra as a copout to dodge culpability for what your slot says and its NAGL.

[Taco Hemingway]

oh yeah btw imma soft that i know why setup design wise morph was a roleblocker - i'll say that much more about my role.

maybe this was too much but I already softed too much when interacting with pooky so whatever lmao

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

Oh, and you haven't seen my thought process, because only my brothers, Zeus and Poseidon have seen it.

My thought process on you, is "Ok this one snap reads. Not deep reads. Lets see what the top tier is right now."
What I get, is punched right in the pomegrantes and told to be better.

I don't think you're a wolf. I just think you're blind.

oh yeah btw imma soft that i know why setup design wise morph was a roleblocker - i'll say that much more about my role.

This is not a soft, and this is frankly bullshit anyone can claim.

So you're either blind or something which means I'm not being very nice.

-Hades.

[Taco Hemingway]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

[Celestial Powerhouse]

like your reasoning updates itself based on what new thing I'm saying - there is no holistic reasoning at all from you. It's all about some minute detail about my play combined with a shitty assumption about what happens.

I don't think your thought process is complex at all, Hades and it shows.

My reasoning is consistent, taco poop.

As is Poseidons reasoning.

You are reading as one player, when we're seperate heads.

-Hades.

hades go sleep. ignore the howling!

-Mister Ocean

Have you heard a 3 headed dog howl? yeesh...

I read your slot as a unit. You share the same role PM.

I don't care about individual reads. I care about how you as a unit are reading the game and such. You keep bringing up that you are a hydra as a copout to dodge culpability for what your slot says and its NAGL.

We are 3 heads with different reads, I cannot answer for Zeus or Poseidon, they cannot answer for me.
You are applying my responses to Poseidons claim.

No wonder you've tied yourself in a knot.

yes, we're one slot. We're not 1 mind.

-hades, lord of ye us why is it still so damn warm at 3am

[Celestial Powerhouse]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

zeus is our brother~

but also can I just soft that I also know why morph is role blocker. what does that mean honestly. I dont think there's a way to know unless you are informed and even then, that doesn't confirm your alignment. no one role can *confirm* that another exists.

Hades, hades, look into my starry blue eyes. I love youuu <3 take a hug and sleep please! *huuuuug*

-Mister Ocean

[Taco Hemingway]

Anyways, I think we should try to kill the werewolves. Feel free to bus me early because I'll bus you all. The miller claim is an inside joke but I can always say it's serious later. I might rolecop unwnd because of the soft?

I don't think T3 slipped here, I think that this was a poorly thought out form of humor. With that being said, I don't think this is towny, nor should we allow people to claim malefactor.

VOTE: T3

Everyone above me is town!

i hardclaim malefactor actually

This is also a particularly poor post. One that we would be pressuring more if it weren't for T3 being a bigger target.

So, like, at least in the Newbie queue, it's harder to slip because the scum PT is in an obvious soft purple color instead of the main thread's black background. Is it the same for grown-up Mafia, or is that just how PTs work?

I'm getting a bad feeling from this post. It seems to be trying to be self-clearing and this doesn't fit the personality that they showed with their first few posts. I'd go as far to say that this post is more likely to come from non-town than from actual town.

Kazyan what's your mafia experience like?

Mostly amogus, followed by:

Game 1: Roll 3-shot Vigilante. Misuse the power the whole game; lose.
Game 2: VT. Get killed on night 1 after defending scum; rest of the town is badass and nails the two scum back-to-back.
Game 3: Mafia Goon. Get super lucky by shooting the only PR on day 1 and then having another townie fakeclaim on Day 2. Win.
Game 4: VT in Dogs. Vs Cats multiball. Drop out partway through the game after hammering a Miller. Generally fail to and get widely scumread, except for side-eyeing Pooky (who was scum) the whole time, which goes nowhere.
Game 5: You're looking at it.

You've been in a dead pt before. You should know what color private pts are. Also doesn't make sense that you'd think they would be a different color outside of the newbie queue.

Reads so far:

[Morph the Cat]
[Null]
[petapan]
[Kazyan, T3]

VOTE: echolocation

Obvious CW commence

I don't agree with where you placed your vote in that I think there are players who are better votes if you are set against t3. What are you thinking here, why pick echolocation, who seems pretty null on my read-through?

I'm a Loyal Babysitter. You all really had to make me do this.

Claim noted. I'd prefer to power through and eliminate them regardless.

I'm a Loyal Babysitter. You all really had to make me do this.

So, fun fact, Cephrir advertised this to his friends as "not having any bullshit weird new normal queue roles or modifiers" during a discussion being had about how much normal games suck like, ALL the balls lately.

Guess what this fakeclaim contains two of~

this seems pretty angleshooty especially if the game wasn't publicly advertised as such. I think we should take T3's claim as seriously as any other claim given the circumstances.

It WAS advertised as such though. Note Ceph's join date and take this line from the opening of the signup thread:

This game is normalesque in feel and flavor, but can't run in the normal queue for a few reasons which, I think, are all delineated in this post. Roles have some light flavor, but I don't plan on writing a novel during the game.

Now HERE is the kind of game that Ceph yearns for, the normals HE grew up in:

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=29163

I don't agree with any of this - I don't think Ceph would slip info elsewhere, and not sure that should be brought up if he did.
I agree with eliminating T3, though, and think the claim is lame anyway, I just wouldn't bring setup speculation + mod meta into the equation.

I don't like that T3 is slipping you as not his partner, Cabd

It's a multiball game, I find it unlikely that Morph and T3 are aligned. and bussing, if that's what you are implying. There should be another team of baddies to work with without this weird angle.

What’s a werewolf version of Miller? Furry?

So Uh I learned a lesson from the last game I just played.

I am Werewolf Miller.

I'm not sure what the fascination with literally claiming scum is, but it remains strictly anti-town beyond being jokey in this game.

Spoiler: Gif reaction

VOTE: Lukewarm

Coward.

(Also this is my RVS vote)

What am I supposedly scared of right now?

Taking away the E-1

I don't care for this post. As an aside, Peta is shifting back to null and you're shifting more towards scum in my mind.

I don't see why a partner would even bother trying for damage control here, especially when the only other info T3 spewed was not partner-related. But both Resistance heads getting a town read off of that is... something. One of them even claimed they're not even seeing any slip.

Yes, I agree, which makes reading this game a bit more difficult. That's fine, though, I wouldn't want this game to be too easy this time.
This is the only post besides a morph post that I've felt was above null, so you get an early townread. Multiball complicates both of those reads, but it's a start for me.

[Morph the Cat, Uncly Shelby]
[Null, Petapan]
[kdowns]
[Kazyan]
[Dannflor]

man i go 2 posts in on this ISO and I already cracked who the final mafia member is lmfao
VOTE: Kakeguri

bye!

[Celestial Powerhouse]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

Oh, oh no! please don't thunder dome me! I don't think I would be able to stop myself knocking you clean of your horse.

You are claiming information which cannot be proven. You are claiming to have had pre-existing knowledge of what is now public knowledge. You have claimed a powerful anti-wolf PR.

You are claiming yourself into a knot.

You, do not scare me.

You, need to shut up, sit down, and think for a moment.

-Hades. About the ask the Furies to join him.

[Kazyan]

Hades, go to sleep. Persephone is worried about you.

[Taco Hemingway]

WHY IS IT FUCKJING BULLSHIT

fuckign EXPLAIN YOUR SHIT

im getting tired and i'm gonna fucking thunderdome you in a second if you dont knock it off

zeus is our brother~

but also can I just soft that I also know why morph is role blocker. what does that mean honestly. I dont think there's a way to know unless you are informed and even then, that doesn't confirm your alignment. no one role can *confirm* that another exists.

Hades, hades, look into my starry blue eyes. I love youuu <3 take a hug and sleep please! *huuuuug*

-Mister Ocean

it will all make sense if wolves decide to leave me alive.

[The Resistance]

We had a lim in less than four hours? Did someone get a guilty?
~Ircher

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Hades, go to sleep. Persephone is worried about you.

^ kazyan knows what's up!

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We had a lim in less than four hours? Did someone get a guilty?
~Ircher

nope but it was morph's dying wish so it had to happen.

-Mister Ocean

[Taco Hemingway]

actually it will make sense if i die too but then it wont be as funny because I can't meme on people

[The Resistance]

Okay and why does DGB have so many votes right now?
~Ircher

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Hades, go to sleep. Persephone is worried about you.

Persephone is with Demeter, she is forbidden to see me until September.

[Celestial Powerhouse]

Okay and why does DGB have so many votes right now?
~Ircher

morph's other dying wish. we have a bunch of those

-Mister Ocean

[Celestial Powerhouse]

We had a lim in less than four hours? Did someone get a guilty?
~Ircher

Spiffeh slot, and it flipped red.
Similar deal with the DGB slot, formerly VFP.

I'm not entirely sold on this one but I trust my brothers.
-Hades

[The Resistance]

So in other words... We're basically blindly sheeping morph here? Like, morph the cat is pretty good, but it seems wrong to just end the day prematurely under the basis that their reads are perfect. That's rarely the case for anyone. Plus by the looks of it, it's unlikely we're going to gleam any useful info from this day phase because of the way it is playing out.
~Ircher

[The Resistance]

Did morph give some semblance of a case on VFP/DGB? I would ask about the Spiffeh slot as well, but he's already flipped.
~Ircher