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[Salsabil Faria]

Their ISO is awful but idk if that's just their playstyle.

How?

So their ISO is not awful to you?
What are your reads atm?

[Salsabil Faria]

Just the two of us!

[Salsabil Faria]

VOTE: Titus

This has been adressed

Yeah, saw that later. It’s my posting style basically, if you already addressed something, don't have to mention it for me again

[Salsabil Faria]

[Saudade]

oh boy here we go pirating again

[MaxTheFox]

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

He's the only one who is actually trying to play the game.

Scum!Not_Mafia is usually happy to troll.

Yup I read a random other game of his (Baseball) and he played in a similar way there and was town, that's another reason I trust NM.

[MaxTheFox]

to be fair there hasn't been a single obvtown in this game so far and that's a bit worrying

Salsabil to me is, if not quite obvtown, pretty damn close.

[MaxTheFox]

BTW last game I played with Dwlee he was scum and was talkative. Now he's quieter. Anyone who knows Dwlee better, is this NAI or no?

[Roden]

[Saudade, ssbm, max]
[Roden, Salsa, N_M]
[geraint, marci, goofball] null
[Titus, Dwlee]
[owo]

so this is out there

I agree about Dwlee's placement the most here. Their ISO is awful but idk if that's just their playstyle.

No, it’s not.

???

You voted Dwlee?

[Roden]

[Saudade, ssbm, max]
[Roden, Salsa, N_M]
[geraint, marci, goofball] null
[Titus, Dwlee]
[owo]

so this is out there

I agree about Dwlee's placement the most here. Their ISO is awful but idk if that's just their playstyle.

No, it’s not.

???

You voted Dwlee?

Or are you referring to the playstyle comment? Because first thought was that you were referring to the ISO comment.

[oʍo]

UNVOTE: Not_Mafia

He's the only one who is actually trying to play the game.

Scum!Not_Mafia is usually happy to troll.

Yup I read a random other game of his (Baseball) and he played in a similar way there and was town, that's another reason I trust NM.

Oh hey, that was a good game for me I also found town!NM that game.

[oʍo]

The way Marci reacted to me pushing on them feels towny in retrospect, I was just a bit taken aback at the time when they were not suspicious of me which made me feel like there was TMI at play but at the end of the day scum leans towards actually questioning people who are FoSing them.

I'll sheep you for now kyouko VOTE: Roden

Umm, what happened in between??

seeing this level of depth of thought from you is refreshing because it tells me you're very likely town as I correctly vibed you out to be, although I may not necessarily agree with your conclusions(I'm partially convinced? I like what you noticed but I had Roden as town so I'm a bit biased towards not being wrong xD), I think the thought process you are displaying is towny.

You are not reading my posts at all, seeing as you still think I don't have any reasoning for Looker

[Dwlee99]

Upon skim the Titus vote stands.

[oʍo]

Their ISO is awful but idk if that's just their playstyle.

How?

So their ISO is not awful to you?
What are your reads atm?

Weird bc I've been doing more discussion than you have. Sounds like youre your own obstacle to getting into discussion and you're projecting that onto me

Also what you claim isnt proof that is my intent nor does your analysis look at intent. Happy to dunk you if you keep this up.

What discussion have you been doing until page 10? Most of your posts up to that point were, as I said, question-dodges. What town intent could this possibly have? But honestly it's early and I'm not locking onto you yet. Do better.

Reads:

TOWN BIN

MaxTheFox - I'm town.
Salsabil - good tone and trying to solve the game early = town in my eyes.

TOWN LEAN

Saudade - at first I didn't like their tone but I don't really see scum being likely to be so nonchalant, if that's the right word.
Manatee - gut read. Trust me on this.
Not_Mafia - yes he is a troll but at the same time it looks like he's actually contributing and trying to solve. Unlike the other Miltank avatar in the game...

NULL

Everyone else, expect another list later in day 1 when there is more content.

SCUM LEAN

omo - trolled in an useless way, dodged questions, picked up the slack in the last page which is why I'm not binning them as scum,
DGB (Looker) - another gut read. I'll let DGB post before voting them though.

SCUM BIN

Nobody yet.

Quote the posts you think are best indicative of me being scummy.

Still waiting for you to explain this:

Is Not_Mafia trolling or what?

VOTE: omo for being the only other one not to confirm.

VOTE: MaxTheFox
This is a nervous scumclaim right here

And this:

on a serious note i dont like lookers passivity in regards to being asked about voting

I think Looker's behavior is pretty town indicative in thought process, if very chaotic in nature.

Mention the post(s) you find town indicative please.

Which ones are scum indicative?

It should be obvious:

omo is either scum or just trying to cause chaos. None of their posts make much sense as town, they're either baseless accusations or dodging questions.

Yes I am causing chaos. Why is that scummy?

---

And just a normal response:

Getting kinda annoyed at the discreds coming at my slot because I crack jokes/play to unsettle occasionally just bc its unorthodox.

Cracking jokes =/= randomly accusing people. It just looked like scum trying to throw shade at someone early.

"Play to unsettle"

Yes i randomly accuse people early game, how else is one supposed to move the game forward? And you seem to have conveniently ignored tbe part where i said "play to unsettle" -
You're trying to call me scum and find reasons working backwards and it shows in how you are approaching thinking about my slot in very specific ways - where you are unsure about what is something that could be construed as scum indicative you push someone who is agreessive because thats always an easy push to get people behind. I unvoted you and pushed elsewhere because you showed a glimmer of towniness, but the way your mindset seems to be displaying itself in what you are choosing to point out feels dishonest to me.

[oʍo]

You can't find anyone to have a confident scumread on because you are TMIing i believe and cannot find anything that looks scummy to you becauwe townies are towning and you dont wanna push your scumbuds.

If this isn't the case it would help if you could outline how you reached some of the conclusions you're tossing out.

[oʍo]

Also as a sidenote, salsa is probably town because town them is not very good at reading people with my playstyle. Was convinced i was scum in our last game when i was town af

[MaxTheFox]

You can't find anyone to have a confident scumread on because you are TMIing i believe and cannot find anything that looks scummy to you becauwe townies are towning and you dont wanna push your scumbuds.

I said I found your random pushing scummy. IMO that's not the way to move the game forward-- it creates false reads on people. The game can move forward naturally, look at other games, in many others of a comparable size RVSS ended earlier because a lead presented itself-- often someone saying something scummy, not because of a false accusation. The game's moving, but if you are town then it's moving in the wrong direction because you are scumread by many. Who are my scumbuds according to you?

If this isn't the case it would help if you could outline how you reached some of the conclusions you're tossing out.

I don't feel like "playing to unsettle" is a good play during RVS and in any case it came off as an attempt to miss-lim someone early or start a wagon rather than a genuine town play. That's my main conclusion: your play looked outrageously scum-motivated to me and most of the rest of the day so far was spent defending it.

[geraintm]

I want to change my vote, who should I vote and why?

hate this post.
+1 on my scum index

Oh, I hate any player who is asked to be led to a vote, and not using their own reasong and logic.
I'll try and call it out everytimw I see it, but this week has been awful. 4 days to redo the girls bedrooms and then clear up the mess.

[Salsabil Faria]

oh boy here we go pirating again

[Dwlee99]

Titus/Geraintm/???

[Salsabil Faria]

[Saudade, ssbm, max]
[Roden, Salsa, N_M]
[geraint, marci, goofball] null
[Titus, Dwlee]
[owo]

so this is out there

I agree about Dwlee's placement the most here. Their ISO is awful but idk if that's just their playstyle.

No, it’s not.

???

You voted Dwlee?

Or are you referring to the playstyle comment? Because first thought was that you were referring to the ISO comment.

Playstyle comment

[Salsabil Faria]

The way Marci reacted to me pushing on them feels towny in retrospect, I was just a bit taken aback at the time when they were not suspicious of me which made me feel like there was TMI at play but at the end of the day scum leans towards actually questioning people who are FoSing them.

I'll sheep you for now kyouko VOTE: Roden

Umm, what happened in between??

seeing this level of depth of thought from you is refreshing because it tells me you're very likely town as I correctly vibed you out to be, although I may not necessarily agree with your conclusions(I'm partially convinced? I like what you noticed but I had Roden as town so I'm a bit biased towards not being wrong xD), I think the thought process you are displaying is towny.

You are not reading my posts at all, seeing as you still think I don't have any reasoning for Looker

Your reasoning for

Looker

slot mainly NAI, vibe + gut isn't enough to strongly townread anyone.

[Salsabil Faria]

Upon skim the Titus vote stands.

In the last game she was the same, but you were more chatty, what change?

[marcistar]

Also you are quite clearly distancing now, because before you two were being all buddy buddy and TRing each other, then shortly after you even said "am I letting Marci pocket me? Maybe" which pinged me then but I thought I'd let that go on the off chance you two are playing a weird style of masons, but with distancing that is happening now I don't entertain that as a possibility anymore. You're both both pretending like it never happened lmao

i like buddying, i do know i was buddying but i didnt think it was a serious point..? is it a serious thing we should be chatting about..?
i dont like manatees vote on owo so then i decided to stop buddying them so hard at that point

What’s your take on

OMO

's read about

goofball

and despite TR

Roden

, sheeped

ssbm

to vote

Roden

in the next few posts?

i dont agree with their read on the goofball slot cuz i had my own opinions from lookers stuff, but i dont think their read is bad.
i forget, can u link where they tr roden and then where they made the vote please..?

[Dwlee99]

Upon skim the Titus vote stands.

In the last game she was the same, but you were more chatty, what change?

I have less to say and my eyes are glazing over on half of these posts.