Open 821 | Fall With Your Friends | Endgame

[Something_Smart]

Yeah, I mean there's a difference between trusting someone because you're confident they're town and doing what Hectic did.

I think there's something to be said for having more scumread people trust their townreads first. But I think I probably would be willing to throw out a trust to Prism, if people feel like it's time to start trusting townreads.

[humaneatingmonkey]

we can start with somewhere. we dont all have to do it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

the scummier players should actually be the first ones to do it. they should be the one to pop the question on their supposed townreads, so we can start conftowning people.

[humaneatingmonkey]

at least we can minimize the risk of trust in scum because we'll be trusting the towniest

[Infinity 324]

the people here are too conservative with their trusts. i would like everyone to start popping those trusts when they come to the conclusion is someone is "locktown" and that "you'll never change your mind" — even changing your entire strategies just to set both of you up to trust as a surething.

pop those trusts so we can start getting actual reads

I don't really understand why I would do this. Yes trusting might lead to good reads, but so will waiting. The longer I wait, the harder it becomes for scum to keep up appearances depending on who it is and the more data I can use to sort people. Even if I was 100% on someone being town, I may want to wait just in case there's someone else I'm confident is town that might not get paired otherwise.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i love your avatar btw infinity. it's so easy to the eyes.

[Infinity 324]

Thanks :)

[inutile]

I do have an idea of the next step I want this game to take, but am content to let things simmer a bit first.

...

[inutile]

these people

are you steering clear of me for some reason

[humaneatingmonkey]

are you steering clear of me for some reason

sorry if you feel like that, but i'm not steering clear of you. what do you want to talk about?

[inutile]

sorry if you feel like that, but i'm not steering clear of you. what do you want to talk about?

just found it odd that you are pushing for what i suggested i would do right now to prism

[inutile]

just found it odd that you are pushing for what i suggested i would do right now to prism

i mean without interacting with me, like it felt like maybe you were trying not to engage with me for whatever reason

[Prism]

I get why HEM wants faster trusts but I'm again happy to take it slow, even if it's not as exciting and I spent parts of yesterday impatient myself.

My preference order right now if I were to pair would be HEM->S_S->inutile. I still just doubt S_S encourages me/HEM quickly yesterday if HEM is town, so pairing them off is likely safe as well.

I haven't had time to really read and it might be awhile; last day traveling and then full day of flights home tomorrow.

[Infinity 324]

I still just doubt S_S encourages me/HEM quickly yesterday if HEM is town, so pairing them off is likely safe as well.

Do you think s_s would think he has any influence on whether you two actually pair?

[Dannflor]

if they do pair though, and HEM is scum, S_S looks bad

[Something_Smart]

I still just doubt S_S encourages me/HEM quickly yesterday if HEM is town, so pairing them off is likely safe as well.

For what it's worth, I also wouldn't do that if I were scum with HEM, because if you actually fell with him after I said that it would look so bad for me.

Kinda like Ich trying to bait me into falling with his buddy T3 in the last run, which didn't work, but wouldn't have worked out well for them if it had.

[humaneatingmonkey]

i mean without interacting with me, like it felt like maybe you were trying not to engage with me for whatever reason

i get what you mean and i'm sorry. i haven't been focused on my games lately. if you've already suggested it before, then you must have implanted that strategy in my head or great minds think alike.

so what do you want to talk about? where are you on this game?

[Infinity 324]

I think shiki is town tbh

[Prism]

I still just doubt S_S encourages me/HEM quickly yesterday if HEM is town, so pairing them off is likely safe as well.

Do you think s_s would think he has any influence on whether you two actually pair?

I can't definitively answer this but scum should be looking to influence pairings and dissuade town ones. I think this is straightforward and immediately supporting my strong TR over hoping it changes with time is a horrible idea.

[Prism]

Definitely town: HEM
Probably town: S_S
Townleans: Murdercat, inutile
Nullish: Dannflor
Don't trust: Infinity
Where is my day vig?: catboi

[Prism]

Explaining the full context of me/prism would require going into more backstory than I want to divulge right now. But suffice to say the ongoing dance of them immediately suspecting me and disliking outing a snap townread of them is very much in character and expected behavior from them. I don't really think Prism should be townreading me, but the immediate scumread is slightly annoying, but mostly amusing. In a regular game I might be more frustrated with it, here the game is playable regardless, I don't have to spend all day arguing with them. It's amusing to me because if I am right prism will have once again jumped to the wrong conclusion about my alignment, and that is very funny to me~~

I'm not apologizing if you're town. That read on me was absolute ass. I would buy a gut townlean pending more info/flips but being willing to trust me and not being explicit with why you got cold feet or having your read progress at all was also ass. Maybe by page 20 there's enough for a solid townread but I never believe you locktown me for

these

six or so pages and if you did you're lucky I didn't just immediately steamroll you for it.

[humaneatingmonkey]

in what voice do you read other people's posts? your own voice, or do you assign an imagined voice (like a pirate's voice, for example)?

p-edit those are good reads Prism. I have those reads as well.

[Dannflor]

i also have those reads

[humaneatingmonkey]

holy shit Prism is town

[Dannflor]

I don't that was a lie