Murdercat's readlist includes me as scum so it's obviously an ass readlist.In post 499, Something_Smart wrote:In what way? You don't townread me and Prism?
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I think I'm here. Infinity can you name the most likely scum team from your perspective? Same to you S_S.-
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Sure, I'm town reading all of them so why wouldn't I-
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Shrug, I have more or less remained confident, you bigIn post 445, Prism wrote:
I'm not apologizing if you're town. That read on me was absolute ass. I would buy a gut townlean pending more info/flips but being willing to trust me and not being explicit with why you got cold feet or having your read progress at all was also ass. Maybe by page 20 there's enough for a solid townread but I never believe you locktown me forIn post 417, catboi wrote:Explaining the full context of me/prism would require going into more backstory than I want to divulge right now. But suffice to say the ongoing dance of them immediately suspecting me and disliking outing a snap townread of them is very much in character and expected behavior from them. I don't really think Prism should be townreading me, but the immediate scumread is slightly annoying, but mostly amusing. In a regular game I might be more frustrated with it, here the game is playable regardless, I don't have to spend all day arguing with them. It's amusing to me because if I am right prism will have once again jumped to the wrong conclusion about my alignment, and that is very funny to me~~thesesix or so pages and if you did you're lucky I didn't just immediately steamroll you for it.tsundere. The only actual reason I delayed clearing you was that if I am mistaken and you are scum, I wanted something to be able to read off of. (although I doubt you bother immediately removing me from the game if scum). This should suffice as an answer to HEM as well.-
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I actually lack for strong scumreads at this point, the early call on something_smart has dimished for me while others have gotten better in my eyes. I harbor doubts on HEM still but part of that is my innate tendency to reflexively OMGUS. I want to clear Prism so they can take their hero trust on HEM, if they're right everything is happy and we have a good shot at winning, if either is scum I presumably end up playing minseweeper with everyone else. Those are acceptable outcomes.
Would anyone scream out in terror if I were to propose the trust now? o(=´∇`=)o-
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The early townread, to be clear. realized this doesn't really mesh with the first part of that post.In post 507, catboi wrote:the early call on something_smart has dimished for me-
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it conftowns people much how ydrasse was conftowned by hectic and iIn post 509, Infinity 324 wrote:Still don't see the benefit to proposing as a widely scumread player, scum!prism won't accept-
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I think prism is town and want to clear them (or "clear" them) to allow them to operate freely.In post 509, Infinity 324 wrote:Still don't see the benefit to proposing as a widely scumread player, scum!prism won't accept
Seems like we'd be executing a losing strategy in that case!humaneatingmonkey wrote:catboi and prism being the scumteam is my anti-hero solve-
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only if you believe prism about not accepting,In post 509, Infinity 324 wrote:Still don't see the benefit to proposing as a widely scumread player, scum!prism won't accept
otherwise it is like, get 'confirmed' town, pair towniest non-confirmeds, if both town, pair with confirmed town, tada?because none of you know what you want follow me because i'm not going anywhere i'll just bleed so the stars can have something dark to shine in-
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why? bussing is how you play this game: you dont have to trust each other (and you can't!), at least one of you would be trusted early (because of how it polarizes the game), and when they exit, it makes you look good.In post 513, catboi wrote:Seems like we'd be executing a losing strategy in that case!
I've been fantasizing about a scum game here since modding it.-
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except in this strategy, the towniest players would not be set up to trust each other.In post 515, Infinity 324 wrote:Again, is there something I'm missing? It seems suboptimal to me for scum to accept a trust fall with a scummier player if they could trust fall with a townier player later to get them out of the pool. Therefore, it's not a clear.-
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Going with consensus reads is very likely to be wrong in my opinion-
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well you're wrong about me so i dont know about thatIn post 520, MURDERCAT wrote:Going with consensus reads is very likely to be wrong in my opinion-
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eh, there is precedent for this i guessIn post 515, Infinity 324 wrote:Again, is there something I'm missing? It seems suboptimal to me for scum to accept a trust fall with a scummier player if they could trust fall with a townier player later to get them out of the pool. Therefore, it's not a clear.because none of you know what you want follow me because i'm not going anywhere i'll just bleed so the stars can have something dark to shine in-
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Well, in this case, with me having strongly professed a townread on Prism, and agreeing to trust first only for Prism to not trust me and flip as confirmed scum would mean I'm almost certainly getting stranded.In post 516, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
why? bussing is how you play this game: you dont have to trust each other (and you can't!), at least one of you would be trusted early (because of how it polarizes the game), and when they exit, it makes you look good.In post 513, catboi wrote:Seems like we'd be executing a losing strategy in that case!
I've been fantasizing about a scum game here since modding it.
I haven't thought a ton about what my strategy would be (this is the one setup where I absolutely did not want to draw scum), but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't look like what I'm doing with Prism.-
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I see, I don't know why this is a good strategy though? By definition, the scummier players are more likely to be scum, so the townier players are gonna get paired with scum more often this way.In post 519, humaneatingmonkey wrote:if we're always setting it up that scummiest players would trust towniest players, then they can't strategize around taking the towniest people with them.
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