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[petapan]

i'm sorry i can't actually strongly motivate myself to evaluate everything when the elimination for the day is already de facto decided

we do not pivot onto dotw because if skitter is mafia we get guaranteed PR results since the last mafia has to carry the kill

[petapan]

although if i'm being honest dotw's latest posts are so disconnected that they feel town, i'd expect scum would have a better handle on the gamestate

[Dragon of the West]

It’s probably like 60% maybe 70% just DotW who is the partner

But if it’s not him, this game is *significantly* harder because there’s a lot less separating you-titanic-ydrasse from each other (and yes, even ta vera at that point) than there is separating y’all from DotW

Well prepare for the game to be harder then I guess

[Dragon of the West]

Actually, I like that idea

VOTE: DotW

This way at least one of me/morning is still around to discuss who skitt’s partner is if it’s not DotW

This is a dumb plan if you actually think skitt is scum

[Dragon of the West]

Actually, I like that idea

VOTE: DotW

This way at least one of me/morning is still around to discuss who skitt’s partner is if it’s not DotW

Wait, were you not even on skitt at all today? Just went to count votes and saw all you did before this vote was "Hurt: ydra"

[petapan]

yeah don't check dotw tonight thanks

VOTE: skitter

[Menalque]

Stop putting skitter at e-1 ffs

If DotW is town who is scum @peta

[petapan]

UNVOTE:

sorry

[petapan]

i don't have a good answer i'm being lazy and wanted to turn my brain off for a while

i'll do a reread tonight if we're really serious about trying to nail it down

i do very much think ditw's response to you here is towny though

[petapan]

oh yeah it's over now so i can say ydrasse's defense of "i wouldn't play this way as scum" didn't hold weight with me because in NQN multiball she was mostly apathetic and trolled and scumclaimed on day 1, i thought the apathy was townie there until she got vigged and flipped wolf

she is welcome to offer a rebuttal as to how this game is totally different

[Morning Tweet]

lemme read dat

[Morning Tweet]

idk that game has like 25% of the openwolfing energy this one has, it reminds me more of FL v. hectic where she didnt try

like there was still a guise of playing the game in NQN

im aware Ydrasse will fuck around as scum but i still maintain this is the first example of going quite this far

But, i will concede that she hasn't have associatives that clear her and it is technically something she could have done, I just find it less likely due to just how terrible it is both for herself to expect it to work as well as how terrible it'd be for her partners

like town Ydrasse hammering T3 makes a lot more sense than scum Ydrasse doing so esp cause she seems to be recovering from the slump she was in earlier in the game.. dont see the scum motivation

Maybe im getting outplayed by Ydrasse doing nothing tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Morning Tweet]

I will agree that Dragon's detachedness from the game its hard to believe he'd be scum. I mean, I can't think of a solid reason why he can't be this oblivious as scum though

those last few posts seemed gut towny tho

I think I like the idea where Mena/I do our own checks independently so the kill isn't going to be WIFOMy, not much point in broadcasting. I think

[Dwlee99]

You should probably have separate pools so you don't check the same person.

[Morning Tweet]

Oh yeah that would be a problem for me if we did huh

Mena checks within here -->

Morning
petapan
Dwlee99
Dragon of the West

I check within here -->

Mena
Ydrasse
ta vera
Titanic

?

[Dwlee99]

Dragon and me in separate lists imo

[petapan]

idk that game has like 25% of the openwolfing energy this one has, it reminds me more of FL v. hectic where she didnt try

like there was still a guise of playing the game in NQN

im aware Ydrasse will fuck around as scum but i still maintain this is the first example of going quite this far

But, i will concede that she hasn't have associatives that clear her and it is technically something she could have done, I just find it less likely due to just how terrible it is both for herself to expect it to work as well as how terrible it'd be for her partners

like town Ydrasse hammering T3 makes a lot more sense than scum Ydrasse doing so esp cause she seems to be recovering from the slump she was in earlier in the game.. dont see the scum motivation

Maybe im getting outplayed by Ydrasse doing nothing tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

the thing is broadly i feel like i don't have good reasons to actually clear her aside from WIFOM of "wouldn't do this as scum" where other people have been actually towny in some way and that's the obstacle i'm running into

Oh yeah that would be a problem for me if we did huh

Mena checks within here -->

Morning
petapan
Dwlee99
Dragon of the West

I check within here -->

Mena
Ydrasse
ta vera
Titanic

?

i know this is hypothetical but there is absolutely no reason either of you should ever be targeting the other one

[Morning Tweet]

Mena checks within here -->

petapan
ta vera
Dragon of the West

I check within here -->

Ydrasse
Dwlee99
Titanic

?

[Morning Tweet]

the thing is broadly i feel like i don't have good reasons to actually clear her aside from WIFOM of "wouldn't do this as scum" where other people have been actually towny in some way and that's the obstacle i'm running into

thats fair cause im not sure there is any reason to say she's actively town

[petapan]

i don't have anything else to say right now, can't bring myself to focus when the elim for the day is all but decided

Talk to me about ta vera and where your head is at on ydra/titanic and on dwlee after his posting yesterday and on whether you think DotW is the last one or if that’s just too easy

on looking back at the iso, it's not actually obviously townie, but again i do give credit here for being the 4th real vote on ico, as i feel, given what we know of the setup now, that scum are heavily disincentivised to bus. beyond that, it's a bunch of

okay

posts that aren't impossible to fake but look decently solvey, asking some okay questions, also 434 is maybe not how skitter talks to a partner? i wouldn't bet the game on that necessarily but it doesn't make me want to vote him. there's also the fact that he immediately dumpstered skitter's claim, where i'd sort of assume as her teammate if they're coming up with something together he doesn't have her claim something if he's going to shoot it down right away, even if they assumed skitter was DOA it doesn't make sense for her teammate to immediately cut off any chance of someone believing her claim

it's 1:48 am and i'm being lazy but skimming isos, dotw and dwlee have towntells, i really think it's just one of titanic or ydrasse atp

[Menalque]

You know if I had a better memory for what scum do in the past I’d be fucking great at this game

I can’t recall if Dwlee’s take on titanic being founded in... not very good reasons is the sort of shit I’ve seen from scum or town more often in the past. And postgame I’ll remember, but I can’t now and don’t have time/energy to dig through past games to try and check

Whats the thing called, recall vs recognition I think? Where brain finds it much easier to slot something into a pattern we’ve seen before than recall what the pattern is without prompts

[petapan]

the disincentized to bus thing applies to dwlee as well obv, past that point it's diminish returns for towncred as people start to feel the wagon is inevitable, it's why i would usually end up late on wagons as a bus vote

in theory you could say this makes dotw look bad for sort of lightly putting suspicion on ico but not actually vote him but i just tihkn his responses to being voted by menalque are super town

[petapan]

also i'm sleeping now sorry

[Menalque]

Imagine a world where I don’t get roleblocked and get to check titanic N1

Imagine

(Yes I am still salty that datisi thought I ever play D1 like that as scum and that EVEN IF HE THOUGHT THAT THAT HE WOULD THINK I WOULD THEN DO THE KILL)

[Menalque]

Okay sleep well peta