Mini Theme 2222: Open Draft Mafia [Game Over]

[MURDERCAT]

Mod:Can mafia use a vig shot or use Vengeful?

yes to both

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: NDMath I guess

It's possible bingle did a silly gambit as scum, but it seems like it doesn't benefit scum!him at all? Since he's taking a commute either way

[Infinity 324]

Titus is 100% town too and I like bingle pointing that out

Mastina is still 100% town and even disregarding her shooting role I'm not sure why she was investigated

[MURDERCAT]

Vote Count 3.1

[1] Bingle: Titus
[1] NorwegianboyEE: mastina
[1] NDMath: Infinity 324
[0] Infinity 324:
[0] Almost50:
[0] mastina:
[0] Titus:
[0] Dwlee99:
[0] Dunnstral:

Not voting: NorwegianboyEE, Almost50, Dwlee99, NDMath, Bingle, Dunnstral

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline expires in

(expired on 2021-08-01 15:47:09).

[Infinity 324]

Dwlee has done nothing concrete to make me think they're town but I'm getting townvibes from them, since I chose to investigate house over them. The investigation and reaction to mastina's claim feels pretty genuine too

[Dwlee99]

Why NDMath?

Also: I feel disconnected from this game. I didn't want the flea wagon but was apparently wrong on T3 as well, and then missed that Mastina claimed having a gun. I don't think that yesterday being as simple as a guilty helped me get a foot in the game and so I'm either going to need to reread or just form reads on people based on this day phase

[Infinity 324]

That last post [1501] was kind of lukewarm

My reasons for townreading him were pretty weak and only good enough for an early read

I have too many townreads

He responded "weird" to an early townread of him which is a developing scumtell of mine which I just remembered that he did

Mostly the second and third ones

This is what I got

[Dwlee99]

I'll think about it™

[Dunnstral]

I'm forming better reads today, though. Bingle, Titus, Dwlee all feel town. Ndmath is neutral - I didn't think they werescum yesterday because I didn't think they would have lied about the commuter heading out to somebody else for no reason.

[Infinity 324]

I'll think about it™

Yeah I mean I don't expect to be convincing but I do think there are a lot of objectively and subjectively towny people in the game

[Bingle]

Yea I got has a gun and I'm fivehead

Can confirm both that I gave Dwlee a gunsmith and that this was literally the worst application of his power possible. I think scum would have been more careful about claims, so this is similar to Dunn. Probably means town, and given I was already leaning that way I'm not really going to question that, but it's not impossible he's not.

I'm fine with sheeping Titus' soft inno on Math, although if there's truly nothing to be gained in WIFOM-ing it at Math then there's also presumably nothing to be gained WIFOMing it at the rest of the town.

[Bingle]

As a matter of fact, I will not be taking the Vanilla as I already took a killing role to deny it from scum (I initially was planning to take one of the other abilities but when I noticed the killing role I had to opt for it for the denial to scum, regrettably), so taking one of the strongmans actually makes more sense.

This sentence is damned close to a scumclaim from mastina.

[Dwlee99]

this was literally the worst application of his power possible

[Bingle]

Infinity 324 - Guiltied scum from a position of power in House + role madness game.
Titus - Gotcha moment with lie felt like she genuinely believed she was catching scum. Inability to grasp my town motivation for the lie in the first place reinforced this.
NDMath - Implied soft inno from Titus, like that he checked me N1, town energy surrounding said claim.

Dunnstral - Mason card on D1, attempting to roleblock me reeks of a town mindset when I was clearly pushing investigatives to assume targeting me was a waste of time. Mitigated by the claims.
Dwlee99 - Gut, terrible action choice likely wasn't scum trying to fake the action.

Almost50 - Vaguely, A50 crumbing doc while pointing scum at me was a townish A50 decision. The lack of engagement with my gambit is troublesome, but he's one of the few people I'd expect to lean into it and see what I was doing so he gets mild townpings for Dwlee not dying. Ranks this low because I'm not
NorwegianboyEE - Probably not scum with mastina? I dunno, could maybe be scum here.

mastina - Didn't feel like she was really trying to parse me/math/Titus, and also literally that one post I quoted.

[Infinity 324]

Bingle can you correct me when I say stupid shit/make stupid votes

[Infinity 324]

Oh I saw the Titus claim but I didn't give it much weight for whatever reason.

UNVOTE:

[Infinity 324]

Ranks this low because I'm not

What was the end of this meant to be

Bingle's reads are pretty good

[Bingle]

Assuming you're talking about Math, I disagree with the vote but it's not necessarily stupid. Titus only said it was not a guilty, not that it was a true innocent.

I'm definitely more interested in what mastina has to say for herself at the moment though.

[Bingle]

"because I'm not solid on my read there and this is monkey." should have been the end of that line.

[Infinity 324]

Oh I also thought I said you townread mastina but I said you townread Titus, which was correct.

I'm sort of baffled that you're not townreading mastina though.

VOTE: norwee

[Bingle]

As a matter of fact, I will not be taking the Vanilla as I already took a killing role to deny it from scum (I initially was planning to take one of the other abilities but when I noticed the killing role I had to opt for it for the denial to scum, regrettably), so taking one of the strongmans actually makes more sense.

This sentence is damned close to a scumclaim from mastina.

[Infinity 324]

Is there anything more to that than "she took a role that benefits scum"? Because I'm really not sold on that, and her play including most recently the reaction to dwlee's claim has been incredibly town.

[Bingle]

Yes, but I want to hear her reasoning before I explain it.

Suffice to say there is a single world in which that is a town mastina post and it is far outnumbered by the worlds in which it is a scum mastina post.

I don't think her reaction to Dwlee is particularly town indicative given public information in the thread at the time, although I did think her late day posting yesterday was town.

[Infinity 324]

given public information in the thread at the time

?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm moving out by the end of the month so days are pretty hectic. Also another heat wave came up and i have absolutely nothing that can cool down my current living area so i'm stuck feeling terrible because of the excessive heat.
I won't be V/LA but i'll certainly be less active and focused for as long as i'm still in this transitional period.