Silent Star 4: Yin and Yang

[Tanner]

and like, i still don't get the "scum's gonna scramble to derail tanner *even more*" part, both clidd and chara are voting me right now?

[Chara]

something about this feels off to me. like, ydra ypu say yourself that flea /could/ be town, don't you think there's any value in potentially seeing what fae does if faer theory is proven wrong early?

not really

it's kind of like saying "well i think this person is super scummy BUT i guess i could give them another day to see if they're towny" imo

but it's not... that at all? Flea is staying in the game regardless of whether you or Tanner go first.

[clidd]

Chara not knowing how to forge impartiality is making me sleepy.

[Tanner]

yeah i don't get 4423 either

[Chara]

You just sound fake to me.

Quite simple.

the fact that clidd can't explain this read at all makes me more confident about him being scum here, but the fact that no one is probably going to have a problem with this makes me less and less confident about how this game is going to go.

it's Flea's "i can't articulate why Chara is scum" part 2.

[Ydrasse]

and like, i still don't get the "scum's gonna scramble to derail tanner *even more*" part, both clidd and chara are voting me right now?

i don't think clidd is thinking much past "let's flip towny people" and chara i think is scum so... yes i think this is a bad idea now and i think tomorrow if i am flipped they're going to scramble to do what they can to discredit you because they can't afford a townflip nearly as much despite it being what flea needs

[Amy Dunne]

Are we doing Tanner or Ydrasse first today?

Probably doesn’t matter all that much as I think Chara might have possibly slipped with it’s wanting to sort Flea post, because changing its position on Flea would obviously mean pushing Ydrasse.

But I still prefer Ydra today and Tanner tomorrow because if Chara’s town here who trs both Tanner and Ydra, then from its pov, it has to be Flea/Clidd.

So it’s wanting to presumably sort Flea, opens the door for it to possibly push Ydra.

Anyone else seeing this?

[Chara]

Chara not knowing how to forge impartiality is making me sleepy.

what does forge impartiality mean? why would i be impartial?

[Ydrasse]

something about this feels off to me. like, ydra ypu say yourself that flea /could/ be town, don't you think there's any value in potentially seeing what fae does if faer theory is proven wrong early?

not really

it's kind of like saying "well i think this person is super scummy BUT i guess i could give them another day to see if they're towny" imo

but it's not... that at all? Flea is staying in the game regardless of whether you or Tanner go first.

yes flea is sticking in the game i know this? lol

flea is, however, given a chance to recalibrate and forge an entirely new narrative of whatever reads fae wants though because fae never shared them this game beyond the yin thing which is shitty to deal with

[clidd]

Are we doing Tanner or Ydrasse first today?

Probably doesn’t matter all that much as I think Chara might have possibly slipped with it’s wanting to sort Flea post, because changing its position on Flea would obviously mean pushing Ydrasse.

But I still prefer Ydra today and Tanner tomorrow because if Chara’s town here who trs both Tanner and Ydra, then from its pov, it has to be Flea/Clidd.

So it’s wanting to presumably sort Flea, opens the door for it to possibly push Ydra.

Anyone else seeing this?

Alright:

VOTE: Ydrasse

[Amy Dunne]

something about this feels off to me. like, ydra ypu say yourself that flea /could/ be town, don't you think there's any value in potentially seeing what fae does if faer theory is proven wrong early?

Where did she say that?

If Flea is town, then that could only mean Chara/Clidd are distancing.

[Tanner]

Anyone else seeing this?

not really? it's obviously not as much town on ydra as it is on me. i don't see the issue with wanting to make sure the read on flea is more correct. besides, fles's new content after being proved wrong could strengthen a scumread, doesn't necessarily mean its read will turn around?

however, i'm playing devil's advocate a bit here

[Tanner]

flea /could/ be town and then yeah this sucks but also i don't think that flea really is atp, so /shrug

@amy, she said it here ^^

[Ydrasse]

me saying "yes there is a chance flea is town in some fucked up world" doesn't mean i believe it

it's the same thing as me giving you 15 points because i had a passing thought

[Ydrasse]

as a Person i just tend to out things that pass my mind even if they're not things i really think are happening, it's more like, "well i did think this once but overall don't go for it pls"

[Amy Dunne]

flea /could/ be town and then yeah this sucks but also i don't think that flea really is atp, so /shrug

@amy, she said it here ^^

Oh, I really don’t see anything wrong with this?

[Chara]

Are we doing Tanner or Ydrasse first today?

Probably doesn’t matter all that much as I think Chara might have possibly slipped with it’s wanting to sort Flea post, because changing its position on Flea would obviously mean pushing Ydrasse.

But I still prefer Ydra today and Tanner tomorrow because if Chara’s town here who trs both Tanner and Ydra, then from its pov, it has to be Flea/Clidd.

So it’s wanting to presumably sort Flea, opens the door for it to possibly push Ydra.

Anyone else seeing this?

if i wanted to push Ydrasse i'd have pushed Ydrasse. Flea's alignment

does

inform me on Ydrasse. that's the whole point. i do think the most likely scenario is Ydra is just town and Flea is scum but i do have some concerns about Ydrasse i'm finding it difficult to articulate. it doesn't feel like she's really considering what i do as scum here as much as pointing out the times i've been inconsistent and/or had a thought i just threw into the thread without thinking about it.

which is also @ Ydrasse, did you have thoughts on my response to you?

[Chara]

flea /could/ be town and then yeah this sucks but also i don't think that flea really is atp, so /shrug

@amy, she said it here ^^

Oh, I really don’t see anything wrong with this?

i feel like this is pretty much what i've been saying re: Flea being easier to read with a Tanner flip.

[Amy Dunne]

@Chara, let’s say you decide Flea is town, based on your Clidd solve, that can only leave Ydrasse who you claim to tr, so I’m confused.

[Chara]

yes flea is sticking in the game i know this? lol

flea is, however, given a chance to recalibrate and forge an entirely new narrative of whatever reads fae wants though because fae never shared them this game beyond the yin thing which is shitty to deal with

fae did technically out a scumread on me independent of Yin, apparently.

[Tanner]

and like, i still don't get the "scum's gonna scramble to derail tanner *even more*" part, both clidd and chara are voting me right now?

i don't think clidd is thinking much past "let's flip towny people" and chara i think is scum so... yes i think this is a bad idea now and i think tomorrow if i am flipped they're going to scramble to do what they can to discredit you because they can't afford a townflip nearly as much despite it being what flea needs

yeah, and you're saying that scum is trying to derail me today, but chara is obviously pushing me?

[Amy Dunne]

@Chara, let’s say you decide Flea is town, based on your Clidd solve, that can only leave Ydrasse who you claim to tr, so I’m confused.

Disregard, as you already answered this.

[Tanner]

flea /could/ be town and then yeah this sucks but also i don't think that flea really is atp, so /shrug

@amy, she said it here ^^

Oh, I really don’t see anything wrong with this?

hm. it's just, flea is hard to read with the tunnel, and ydra is not allowing fae tk break out of it kinda. it feels kinda backwards to the point i'm not sure i vibe with it.

mostly because uhh, chara voting me earlier when you said you wanted ydrasse first gave me a chara/ydra ping and i'm trying to work it out and this convo with ydrasse is not helping me and uh >_>

[Chara]

@Chara, let’s say you decide Flea is town, based on your Clidd solve, that can only leave Ydrasse who you claim to tr, so I’m confused.

if i became very sure of Flea being town, then yes, i would then think it's Ydrasse/clidd. but that's a big if. if Flea

is

town i'd like to be able to see it, if fae is scum i think that's still apparent after Flea is forced to change faer tune.

if i had to choose between them right now, i'd still say i feel much better about Ydrasse being town than the hypothetical where she isn't and Flea is. hopefully that makes sense.

[Amy Dunne]

I still think Ydrasse is town but now I think I might want Tanner flipped first.